Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 WITH SLIGHT INTUTION AND INTELLIGENCE, ALL KNOWLEDGE, WHETHER AYURVEDIC, ALLOPATHIC OR ANY OTHER ONE CAN BE USED WITH DISCRETION TO GET MAXIMUM OF BOTH THE WORLDS, NAY ALL THE WORLDS. That is my humble conviction, may be personal. S. M. Acharya <smacharya (AT) (DOT) co.uk> --- Jane MacRoss <HIGHFIELD (AT) HOTKEY (DOT) NET.AU> wrote: > How effective is Ayurveda when it is watered down > with allopathy and the allopathic approach? > > Is allopathy improved with the use of Ayurvedic > treatments? Is Ayurveda less effective when mixed with > allopathic diagnostic methods and treatments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Hallo Jane, I am Dr. Mukesh Pandya from Vishwamangal Ayurvedic Aushadhalaya,Mumbai. In ref.to your ques. I would lke to say something about your doubts. Ayurved The ANCIENT science of MEDICINES is a genuine therapy as it was establised 5000 years back.Not only that the therapy itself is effectve in chronic diseases with almost no side effect. In some diseases compare to allopathy med. AYURVEDID MEDICINES are more effective then allopathy. According to the best of my knowdge today people arround the world are prefer AYURVEDIV TREATMENT then allopathy treatment &the picture is comming out day by day,you may be aware of it. Allopathe can be improved with use of AYURVEDIC MEDICINES along with Allopathy med. Like: In kidney calculy mostly Drs.prescribe TAB>CYSTONE(A Product from the house of Himalayas)with the Allopathy treatment. No,Ayurveda is not less effective but it improves the line of treatment for the disease,treatment is recommended in Allopathy. I hope this will clear your doubts towards the efficiancy of Ayurvedic method of treatment. For more details you can come back to me. Regards. Dr. Mukesh Pandya. dr.mukeshpandya dr.mukeshpandya ayurveda, "Jane MacRoss" <HIGHFIELD wrote: > How effective is Ayurveda when it is watered down with allopathy and the allopathic approach? Is allopathy improved with the use of Ayurvedic treatments? Is Ayurveda less effective when mixed with allopathic diagnostic methods and treatments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thankyou Dr Pandya My concern is that Ayurveda is being diluted by the allopathic approach, I would assume that allopathy would be greatly improved with Ayurvedic additions, particularly in the form of remedies without harmful side-effects, but that Ayurveda would and will deteriorate by being used as an allopathic tool. It is heartening that Ayurveda is becoming more popular world-wide, but is surely less effective if used merely as an off-shoot of allopathy? It is a complex issue and very important that it is handled in such a way that optimizes the best possible potential for pure Ayurveda. Best Wishes Jane - dr.mukeshpandya ayurveda Monday, June 12, 2006 6:43 AM <ayurveda> Re: Ayurveda and Allopathy Hallo Jane, I am Dr. Mukesh Pandya from Vishwamangal Ayurvedic Aushadhalaya,Mumbai. In ref.to your ques. I would lke to say something about your doubts. Allopathe can be improved with use of AYURVEDIC MEDICINES along with Allopathy med. Like: In kidney calculy mostly Drs.prescribe TAB>CYSTONE(A Product from the house of Himalayas)with the Allopathy treatment. No,Ayurveda is not less effective but it improves the line of treatment for the disease,treatment is recommended in Allopathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Dear Dr Pandya Do you know many Ayurvedic Drs who use allopathic medications in their practice? I have no doubts whatsoever about the efficacy of Ayurveda. I have grave doubts about the efficacy of allopathy however, I see now from your reply that you felt I did not have confidence in Ayurveda - not so! It just seems such a shame to "water down" Ayurveda with the modern "BigPharm" - I am sure you would be the first to agree, I mean would you yourself even consider using allopathic medication in your own practice for your own patients? Would your patients expect you to use allopathy? Surely not, if you are practising Ayurveda - you can't mix them can you? Best Wishes Jane - dr.mukeshpandya ayurveda Monday, June 12, 2006 6:43 AM <ayurveda> Re: Ayurveda and Allopathy Hallo Jane, I am Dr. Mukesh Pandya from Vishwamangal Ayurvedic Aushadhalaya,Mumbai. In ref.to your ques. I would lke to say something about your doubts. Ayurved The ANCIENT science of MEDICINES is a genuine therapy as it was establised 5000 years back.Not only that the therapy itself is effectve in chronic diseases with almost no side effect. In some diseases compare to allopathy med. AYURVEDID MEDICINES are more effective then allopathy. According to the best of my knowdge today people arround the world are prefer AYURVEDIV TREATMENT then allopathy treatment &the picture is comming out day by day,you may be aware of it. Allopathe can be improved with use of AYURVEDIC MEDICINES along with Allopathy med. Like: In kidney calculy mostly Drs.prescribe TAB>CYSTONE(A Product from the house of Himalayas)with the Allopathy treatment. No,Ayurveda is not less effective but it improves the line of treatment for the disease,treatment is recommended in Allopathy. I hope this will clear your doubts towards the efficiancy of Ayurvedic method of treatment. For more details you can come back to me. Regards. Dr. Mukesh Pandya. dr.mukeshpandya dr.mukeshpandya ayurveda, "Jane MacRoss" <HIGHFIELD wrote: > How effective is Ayurveda when it is watered down with allopathy and the allopathic approach? Is allopathy improved with the use of Ayurvedic treatments? Is Ayurveda less effective when mixed with allopathic diagnostic methods and treatments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Dear Jane Ayurveda has its own principles on which it explains anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology and medicine. These principles are applied to all living and nonliving things.( pancha maha bhootas, tridoshas, gunas etc). These principles help us to understand the disease, treatment method to be adopted and the medicines to be used. These principles can not be applied to allopathy as it is based on entirely differrent principle "scientific study". But ayurveda explains the things which are beyond this concept. what you seem to perceive as the allopathic approach to ayurveda is simply utilisation of modern technology as a medium of propagation.The treatment and diagnosis remain strictly ayurvedic in nature. The only thing that is differrent in today's ayurvedic practice happens to be improved and effective marketing.The modifications extend only to the areas concerning aesthetic value and convenience while the preparations remain unaltered. Allopathy can be improved if they adopt the ayurveda principles while diagnosing and treatng the diseases.But in doing so they would jeopardise their own system which is why actual combination of the two sciences is not feasible. However one does find several people attempting to do this. The opinion I have conveyed in this post is strictly personal and is in direct agreement with my perception of ayurveda. With regards Dr.Savitha Suri http://www.ayurhelp.com ayurveda, "Jane MacRoss" <HIGHFIELD wrote: > > Thankyou Dr Pandya > > My concern is that Ayurveda is being diluted by the allopathic approach, I > would assume that allopathy would be greatly improved with Ayurvedic > additions, particularly in the form of remedies without harmful > side-effects, but that Ayurveda would and will deteriorate by being used as > an allopathic tool. > > It is heartening that Ayurveda is becoming more popular world-wide, but is > surely less effective if used merely as an off-shoot of allopathy? It is a > complex issue and very important that it is handled in such a way that > optimizes the best possible potential for pure Ayurveda. > > Best Wishes > > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thanks for your reply Dr Suri - would you be able to expand a little on "aesthetic values" and "convenience" to clarify your meaning for me, regarding today's ayurvedic practice. Best Wishes Jane - Dr.Savitha Suri <ayurveda> Re: Ayurveda and Allopathy Ayurveda has its own principles on which it explains anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology and medicine. These principles are applied to all living and nonliving things.( pancha maha bhootas, tridoshas, gunas etc). These principles help us to understand the disease, treatment method to be adopted and the medicines to be used. <snip> The only thing that is differrent in today's ayurvedic practice happens to be improved and effective marketing.The modifications extend only to the areas concerning aesthetic value and convenience while the preparations remain unaltered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear jane By aesthetic values I mean packinging, addition of harmless inert fragrances and other such methods employed to make ayurvedic preparations more appealing to patients .Regarding the word "convenience" I intended to summarise the marketing methods parcelling and other such devices used to take ayurveda to better and higher heights globally With regards Dr.Savitha Suri http://www.ayurhelp.com ayurveda, "Jane MacRoss" <HIGHFIELD wrote: > > Thanks for your reply Dr Suri - would you be able to expand a little on "aesthetic values" and "convenience" to clarify your meaning for me, regarding today's ayurvedic practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Thanks again Dr Suri, unfortnately, being a homeopath I do not believe in "harmless inert fragrances", and i am sure that no true Vaidya (tho I would expect "true" and "vaidya" are synonymous) would believe in them either. In Ayurveda i would not imagine anything is "inert" - all substances take their place for good or for ill in creation and additives are not in the right place if they are being considered as additions to any Ayurvedic prescription. Were I not a homeopath I might not be so picky, but on the other hand anyone who has any degree of spiritual awareness would surely have to agree with me? Kind Regards Jane > By aesthetic values I mean packinging, addition of harmless inert > fragrances and other such methods employed to make ayurvedic > preparations more appealing to patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear Jane, 1: Ayurveda has apotential to subsitute allopathy and with sure success,this is an assertive sentence which shows authors belief in ayurveda herbs.As stated in Charak samhita the vaidya must be optimistic about the science he uses only then will the herbs result. 2:Also in ayurveda there are some diseases which are termed as ASADYA i.e which cannot be cured and vaidya must not waste time and energy in that treatments. 3:Results of treatments also depend upon AVASTHA (Dosha Conditioin) 4:Also the patient taking herbs must have Faith in that vaidya only then he gets cured. If the above conditions are not suportive only then ayurveda doesnt give sure results and hence we cant state that ayurveda doesnt succesfully replace allopathy. There are many conditions where ayurveda only works which this author will state in some other text also he doesnt want to oppose allopath bcoz all science r good at its place. Ayurveda Dilutes by allopathic Approach Ya this author agress your point bcoz as two sciences r all together different right from physiology to pathology we cannot compare results of ayurvedic herbs on modern tests, There are examples where clinically patient is perfectly fine but his blood reports arent wnl but we have to assess the patients conditions according to our therapy used. you can also see differnce in blood reports if checked in different labs. Use of Ayurveda With Alopathy ------------------------------ 1:There is a text in Sushrut Samhita that states " Ekamshastram adhyaaino nahi uchitam............ It means never can be a single science best but a combination of science would always be the best after all the interest lies in patients cure. Dr.Kailas.Datrange B.A.M.S, D.Y.A Jane MacRoss <HIGHFIELD (AT) HOTKEY (DOT) NET.AU> wrote: Thankyou Dr Pandya My concern is that Ayurveda is being diluted by the allopathic approach, I would assume that allopathy would be greatly improved with Ayurvedic additions, particularly in the form of remedies without harmful side-effects, but that Ayurveda would and will deteriorate by being used as an allopathic tool. It is heartening that Ayurveda is becoming more popular world-wide, but is surely less effective if used merely as an off-shoot of allopathy? It is a complex issue and very important that it is handled in such a way that optimizes the best possible potential for pure Ayurveda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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