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I do have to correct myself. SSB's guidelines on how to

do Satsangs (bhajan oriented and less chanting) are definitely

stricter than Amma's. There's a list of bhajan singing guidelines

that SSB gives, that Amma hasn't yet done. Otherwise, I REALLY miss

the "old" Amma from the AC books. A rare SSB tiny old book does

exist where I saw more traditional teachings like "A yogi eats once

a day, a rogi(?) eats twice a day and a bhogi(?) eats 3 times a

day." We should always try to read a guru's teachings ourselves.

I was told that there were alot of attempts to shut down the un-

official SSB center I went to, by the local official center. Later

I read in an SSB newsletter that SSB's say on the matter of badly

run centers (run not according to guidelines) was to "take immediate

steps to have them removed from the (official) organization", not

necessarily to shut them down.

 

Amma too, has stricter less practiced/known teachings (ideals of

course). I had once found them collected on a German(?) anti-cult

website. Recognize these stricter teachings? (my paraphrasing

from memory below)

 

1. A sadhak should wear clothing of a single color. (i.e., reduces

daily mental vacillation)

 

2. In the morning when you awake, don't lie there. Rise up on your

Right Side, then bow down and meditate for a few mintutes.

 

3. A (male) sadhak should not look women in the eyes.

 

4. A sadhak should take laxatives 2 times a month to assist in the

removal of excess fecal matter.

 

It's these types of strict teachings you won't find among SSB's.

And his path generally encourages married life, versus renunciation

(internally or externally) like Amma.

 

I keep forgetting to mention the CD-Rom of "From Untruth to Truth"

as being helpful in my path. Some people may not care for the

traditional upbringing of Indians, but there's a good illustration

of the process of re-incarnation, the construction of temples, etc.

and other goodies of Sanathana Dharma.

 

tom

 

 

Ammachi, Mary Ellen Robinson <mare3

wrote:

>

> Hi Tom,

> On some things we can agree to disagree. I have enjoyed many of

your

> posts. I am reading thru the Awaken Children books, and I will

definitely

> take your advice on the Swami P's satsang tapes. I was not

criticizing

> Sai Baba's teachings or favoring one over the other (Tho I am

personally

> much more drawn to Amma's way) just commenting on how the different

> teachings feel to me, personally. In Amma's Service, mare

>

> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:54 -0000 "Tom" <tomgull writes:

> > You really need to listen to Swami P's satsang tapes and Amma's

> > Awaken Children books, and you'll see my influence.

> > Anyone I know who's been and is still a SSB devotee, would

definitely

> > DISAGREE with you. In fact, much of SSB's teachings are quite

the

> > low-key Love, love, love, etc. that's touted on this

> > (teachings for the general public, generic) and in Amma's public

> > discourses.

> > Trying to practice idealogical teachings instead of the

practical

> > ones results in years of wasted effort, ending in a Faith Crisis

> > (I've seen many folks that are just now coming into this).

SSB's

> > teachings lack the intricacies that the Swami P tapes, autobio

and

> > AC books offer and are mostly general in nature.

> >

> > tom

> >

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Om Namah Shivaya!

Amma wore a mango-colored sari with gold and touches of deep red! I

happened to be on stage when Prajna and her husband got married by Amma. It

was so beautiful! The couple was radiant!

 

Om Namah Shivaya

Fe

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"Prashanti " <ammasprashanti >

<Ammachi>

Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:02 PM

Re: Devi Bhava

 

 

> Stacee (or others) ... What color sari did Amma Devi wear? Did you get to

> see Prajna's wedding? Thanks, Love, Prashanti

>

>

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On 6/11/06, flangdon <flangdon (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya!

> Amma wore a mango-colored sari with gold and touches of deep red! I

> happened to be on stage when Prajna and her husband got married by

> Amma. It

> was so beautiful! The couple was radiant!

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Fe

> -

> "Prashanti " <ammasprashanti >

> <Ammachi>

> Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:02 PM

> Re: Devi Bhava

>

>

> > Stacee (or others) ... What color sari did Amma Devi wear? Did you get

> to

> > see Prajna's wedding? Thanks, Love, Prashanti

> >

> >

> >

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Oh! Oh!! OH!!! Thank you, Fe. Interestingly, last night some devotees

were together celebrating a friend's birthday, and also praying for their

fruitfulness in their pursuit of parenthood. I kept thinking of a saying

someone told me about Devi a few summers ago: "Who causes the mango to

ripen?" Sighing in wonderment, Prashanti

 

On 6/11/06, flangdon <flangdon (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya!

> Amma wore a mango-colored sari with gold and touches of deep red! I

> happened to be on stage when Prajna and her husband got married by Amma.

> It

> was so beautiful! The couple was radiant!

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Fe

>

> -

> "Prashanti " <ammasprashanti <ammasprashanti%40gmail.com>>

> <Ammachi <Ammachi%40>>

> Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:02 PM

> Re: Devi Bhava

>

> > Stacee (or others) ... What color sari did Amma Devi wear? Did you get

> to

> > see Prajna's wedding? Thanks, Love, Prashanti

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Tom,

You can find some of these teachings of Amma's in the little book,

"Immortal Light" The Divine Mother's Advice to Householders...it is a

charming book, full of information on how Amma feels a householder, or

those of us outside of an ashram, can live their life the right way. She

talks about in the old days in India how every house had a few trees and

a pond nearby, and each house had some basil planted near their front

door. How each garden should have flowers planted for cutting to put on

the altar to offer to God. All animals were fed and watered, as were the

plants, before the householder sat down to a meal. She also recommends

that if you have a tiny bit of space, to plant trees. Amma also talks

about married life in this little book. I didn't feel she discouraged

marriage, but does suggest keeping the number of children down, and as

soon as possible looking at the reason why you have marital relations and

eventually cutting back on the physical intimacies. And she of course

says celibacy outside of marriage is a good thing too. I find many of

these teachings to be informative and helpful. (And yes, many of them are

hard. I have to admit I was surprised to see the advice on laxatives!

hahaha) I guess what I was saying about the difference between Sai Baba's

teachings and Amma's wasn't so much the content, but how the information

was delivered. In Amma's Service, mare

 

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:44:17 -0000 "Tom" <tomgull (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes:

> Amma too, has stricter less practiced/known teachings (ideals of

> course). I had once found them collected on a German(?) anti-cult

> website. Recognize these stricter teachings? (my paraphrasing

> from memory below)

>

> 1. A sadhak should wear clothing of a single color. (i.e., reduces

> daily mental vacillation)

>

> 2. In the morning when you awake, don't lie there. Rise up on your

> Right Side, then bow down and meditate for a few mintutes.

>

> 3. A (male) sadhak should not look women in the eyes.

>

> 4. A sadhak should take laxatives 2 times a month to assist in the

> removal of excess fecal matter.

>

> It's these types of strict teachings you won't find among SSB's.

> And his path generally encourages married life, versus renunciation

> (internally or externally) like Amma.

>

> I keep forgetting to mention the CD-Rom of "From Untruth to Truth"

> as being helpful in my path. Some people may not care for the

> traditional upbringing of Indians, but there's a good illustration

> of the process of re-incarnation, the construction of temples, etc.

> and other goodies of Sanathana Dharma.

>

> tom

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I just was shopping for a birthday present, and saw that new photos are

available at Mother's Books website, including the Seattle Devi Bhava and

the first San Ramon Devi Bhava.

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