Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Swami P went through a phase where anything he said would upset devotees. I've received enough mean spirited speech that has been passion driven, unlike that which I deliver. I was like you and many on this group, previously. But I found that pleasantries are a waste of time. In Temba's case, I'm trying to prevent what happened to a certain other Tom we know, because it's such praise and celebrity that halts true growth and deludes oneself. It all depends on that person's goal. Stop preferring how the truth is delivered, and you'll find you see things alot clearer. Truth is truth, and more times than not, it'll be painful, depending on our investment in the illusion/maya. tom Ammachi, "ckeniley2003" <ckeniley2003 wrote: > > Speaking truthfully, pleasingly, politely, beneficially, > without agitating others and reciting Vedic literature regularly is > known as austerity of speech. (vachika Tapasu) > > This is a point that I admire: truthful speech has to have the > element > of being pleasing and beneficial in order to be considered truthful! > > Mean spirited speech is not truthful even if it may have some factual > content...without the pleasing and not agitating quality; it is no > longer true. > > beautiful to remember > > > > > > I'm not sure if I agree about the consoling effect of truth, > except > > the Lasting consoling effect. Certain people will always take my > > words in a harsh way. It depends on your goal. If I go to a > movie, > > I wouldn't want some film student or critic to be mouthing off > about > > the faults of the movie, I'd just want to enjoy it. But, I > wouldn't > > have to be a film student or critic to notice the faults of a > really > > poorly made film. I tend to trim the fat from my speech, so > it'll > > seem dry and without fluff. > > > > Temba's at a very different stage than I, the future will show > this > > in time. > > > > tom > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Hey Tom, News Flash: you aren't a Swami. Just a guy with an attitude. Peace, Chris Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull wrote: > > Swami P went through a phase where anything he said would upset > devotees. > > I've received enough mean spirited speech that has been passion > driven, unlike that which I deliver. I was like you and many on this > group, previously. But I found that pleasantries are a waste of > time. In Temba's case, I'm trying to prevent what happened to a > certain other Tom we know, because it's such praise and celebrity > that halts true growth and deludes oneself. It all depends on that > person's goal. > > Stop preferring how the truth is delivered, and you'll find you see > things alot clearer. Truth is truth, and more times than not, it'll > be painful, depending on our investment in the illusion/maya. > > tom > > Ammachi, "ckeniley2003" <ckeniley2003@> > wrote: > > > > Speaking truthfully, pleasingly, politely, beneficially, > > without agitating others and reciting Vedic literature regularly is > > known as austerity of speech. (vachika Tapasu) > > > > This is a point that I admire: truthful speech has to have the > > element > > of being pleasing and beneficial in order to be considered truthful! > > > > Mean spirited speech is not truthful even if it may have some > factual > > content...without the pleasing and not agitating quality; it is no > > longer true. > > > > beautiful to remember > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if I agree about the consoling effect of truth, > > except > > > the Lasting consoling effect. Certain people will always take > my > > > words in a harsh way. It depends on your goal. If I go to a > > movie, > > > I wouldn't want some film student or critic to be mouthing off > > about > > > the faults of the movie, I'd just want to enjoy it. But, I > > wouldn't > > > have to be a film student or critic to notice the faults of a > > really > > > poorly made film. I tend to trim the fat from my speech, so > > it'll > > > seem dry and without fluff. > > > > > > Temba's at a very different stage than I, the future will show > > this > > > in time. > > > > > > tom > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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