Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 You really need to listen to Swami P's satsang tapes and Amma's Awaken Children books, and you'll see my influence. Anyone I know who's been and is still a SSB devotee, would definitely DISAGREE with you. In fact, much of SSB's teachings are quite the low-key Love, love, love, etc. that's touted on this (teachings for the general public, generic) and in Amma's public discourses. Trying to practice idealogical teachings instead of the practical ones results in years of wasted effort, ending in a Faith Crisis (I've seen many folks that are just now coming into this). SSB's teachings lack the intricacies that the Swami P tapes, autobio and AC books offer and are mostly general in nature. tom Ammachi, Mary Ellen Robinson <mare3 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I am new to this group and enjoy reading all the different views > everyone has on different topics. I think it is amazing that in spite of > the differences, everyone seems to have a true respect for each other, > and I am sure Amma would be very happy with this. When I read Tom's > posts, I definitely get that Sai Baba flavor from his statements. Having > studied both Sai Baba's teachings and Amma's they are all leading to the > same goal, just being presented differently. Sai Baba's teachings are > more cut and dried, more forceful in nature. (much like Tom's way of > presenting his ideas) Where Amma is sweet and loving in her presentation > of her teachings.(Much like brother Temba's way of presenting his ideas) > Some will be drawn to one way of learning, others will be drawn > elsewhere. But when Tom made this statement, "Temba's at a very different > stage than I, the future will show this in time." a little teaching of > Amma's on the ego and humility came to mind right away. It took me a > while to find it. I have certainly read this elsewhere but just found it > in the book "From Amma's Heart" page 29, under the heading "No Claims" In > this teaching the questioner asks Amma what she claims to be? Is she an > incarnation of the Divine Mother or a Self-Realized Master? Amma say she > claims no such thing. As a matter of fact she says that anyone claiming > to be self realized (Advanced? Farther along the Path than others?) that > in itself is proof that they are not. Those who are advanced have no such > claims. They always set an example to the world by being HUMBLE....I > think that says it in a nutshell. Brother Temba, I am always aware of > your sincere loving energy and humility whenever you are posting to this > list. In Amma's Service, mare > > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 23:41:38 -0400 "Prashanti " <ammasprashanti > writes: > > 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1... nope, nope, that's still not working... I'm > > still flabbergasted and my jaw is still hanging open in surprise... and > > > I'm still shaking my head in disbelief. > > > > After all this talk about ripening the ego to make it into a fruit > > fit for God's offering plate. > > After all this talk about self-importance getting "in the way" of > > sadhana. After all this talk of... you name it. > > > > And now, Tommykins, you're going to go on about "advanced" states? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Hi Tom, On some things we can agree to disagree. I have enjoyed many of your posts. I am reading thru the Awaken Children books, and I will definitely take your advice on the Swami P's satsang tapes. I was not criticizing Sai Baba's teachings or favoring one over the other (Tho I am personally much more drawn to Amma's way) just commenting on how the different teachings feel to me, personally. In Amma's Service, mare On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:54 -0000 "Tom" <tomgull (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes: > You really need to listen to Swami P's satsang tapes and Amma's > Awaken Children books, and you'll see my influence. > Anyone I know who's been and is still a SSB devotee, would definitely > DISAGREE with you. In fact, much of SSB's teachings are quite the > low-key Love, love, love, etc. that's touted on this > (teachings for the general public, generic) and in Amma's public > discourses. > Trying to practice idealogical teachings instead of the practical > ones results in years of wasted effort, ending in a Faith Crisis > (I've seen many folks that are just now coming into this). SSB's > teachings lack the intricacies that the Swami P tapes, autobio and > AC books offer and are mostly general in nature. > > tom > > Ammachi, Mary Ellen Robinson <mare3 > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > I am new to this group and enjoy reading all the different views > > everyone has on different topics. I think it is amazing that in spite of > > the differences, everyone seems to have a true respect for each other, > > and I am sure Amma would be very happy with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 if temba died to this body tommorow he would be content knowing that AMMAs LOVE would be with him wherever he goes.he would be even more content knowing that HER LOVE WILL ALWAYS REMAIN with his dear brother tom..tom you are forever in this heart .and AMMAs sun thanks you beloved brother. you are all GREATER then this child..without YOU ,i am nothing.you are all forms of this childs beloved AMMA.. >"Tom" <tomgull (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> >Ammachi >Ammachi > Re: Advanced?/Swami P >Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:54 -0000 > >You really need to listen to Swami P's satsang tapes and Amma's >Awaken Children books, and you'll see my influence. > >Anyone I know who's been and is still a SSB devotee, would definitely >DISAGREE with you. In fact, much of SSB's teachings are quite the >low-key Love, love, love, etc. that's touted on this >(teachings for the general public, generic) and in Amma's public >discourses. > >Trying to practice idealogical teachings instead of the practical >ones results in years of wasted effort, ending in a Faith Crisis >(I've seen many folks that are just now coming into this). SSB's >teachings lack the intricacies that the Swami P tapes, autobio and AC >books offer and are mostly general in nature. > >tom > >Ammachi, Mary Ellen Robinson <mare3 wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > I am new to this group and enjoy reading all the different views > > everyone has on different topics. I think it is amazing that in >spite of > > the differences, everyone seems to have a true respect for each >other, > > and I am sure Amma would be very happy with this. When I read Tom's > > posts, I definitely get that Sai Baba flavor from his statements. >Having > > studied both Sai Baba's teachings and Amma's they are all leading >to the > > same goal, just being presented differently. Sai Baba's teachings >are > > more cut and dried, more forceful in nature. (much like Tom's way of > > presenting his ideas) Where Amma is sweet and loving in her >presentation > > of her teachings.(Much like brother Temba's way of presenting his >ideas) > > Some will be drawn to one way of learning, others will be drawn > > elsewhere. But when Tom made this statement, "Temba's at a very >different > > stage than I, the future will show this in time." a little >teaching of > > Amma's on the ego and humility came to mind right away. It took me a > > while to find it. I have certainly read this elsewhere but just >found it > > in the book "From Amma's Heart" page 29, under the heading "No >Claims" In > > this teaching the questioner asks Amma what she claims to be? Is >she an > > incarnation of the Divine Mother or a Self-Realized Master? Amma >say she > > claims no such thing. As a matter of fact she says that anyone >claiming > > to be self realized (Advanced? Farther along the Path than others?) >that > > in itself is proof that they are not. Those who are advanced have >no such > > claims. They always set an example to the world by being HUMBLE....I > > think that says it in a nutshell. Brother Temba, I am always aware >of > > your sincere loving energy and humility whenever you are posting to >this > > list. In Amma's Service, mare > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 23:41:38 -0400 "Prashanti " <ammasprashanti > > writes: > > > 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1... nope, nope, that's still not working... >I'm > > > still flabbergasted and my jaw is still hanging open in >surprise... and > > > > > I'm still shaking my head in disbelief. > > > > > > After all this talk about ripening the ego to make it into a >fruit > > > fit for God's offering plate. > > > After all this talk about self-importance getting "in the way" of > > > sadhana. After all this talk of... you name it. > > > > > > And now, Tommykins, you're going to go on about "advanced" states? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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