[vedic astrology] My Marriage was made in hell?

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Well i dont want to hurt you but have you ever thought that it was

ur foolishness in sake of succes you get married.

 

well. you have a combination of venus+mercury in scorpio.

 

kindly read the article

http://www.srath.com/lessons/intermediate/dharma_marriage.htm

and chart 1

 

there is a quote ""Both Venus and Mercury are in Scorpio (specific

combination for Low morals ""

 

well in other sense you have debilated sun in 7th which is 5th lord.

 

there is nothing to explain more in horoscope of you.

 

thanks and Regards

 

Tarun

 

 

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> I saw ur mail. I'm really sorry, wat happened in ur life is

v.bad. similar to this one of my friends got married, when she got

married her family is not aware of the guys nature, he got all the

bad habits with him, a year after she gave birth to a baby boy that

time baby was tested as hiv positive, then she took the test, she

too, before marriage itself that person was affected with that. now

thry all suffering with this.

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> as u said her life also made in hell..

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> Till my marriage few astrologers with whom we consulted has told

that i after completing my engineering,i will get married and will

go abroad and also they suggested my parents to search for the

alliance of the one working in abroad....My ambition was also to

move abroad,,,

> in 2004 july i completed my Engineering in Computer Science....My

parents started looking for the alliance and in dec 2004 my marriage

was fixed, who said that he is working in US as a software

consultant since 5 years,,,and he said that by january 2005 he has

to go back to US and join his job,,,,only 10 days were left,,He

presented himself with very high family status regarding his mother,

father who is expired, his coborns and his close relatives....He

even told lies about his educational background,,,,They made hurry

burry,Withinn 10 days we got married ie on 24th Dec,,,From that day

on he broke my communication with my parents,,,,Very shocking thing

for me was he was a psychic,,,,he was showing me hell by torturing

me mentally and physically..he was a sadist one who feels happy by

causing pain to others,,,,My life was a hell there....Was everytime

thinking to suicide,,,but my feeling to see my parents and brothers

atleast once had made me to bare those

> night mares,,,He had all the bad habits like

smoking,steeling,drinking,,,etc....even suspectible nature and also

misery,,,,,,,,,,,,,I had ever imagined that such kind

> of person exists on this earth,,,and also i came to know that heis

visa was also about to expire in march 2005,,,he did only

diploma,,,,his family backgorund everything was false,,,,By God's

Grace i was able to convince him to get some extra dowry from my

parents and came back home on 2005 jan 23rd,,,,After that We had

filed a complaint and he and his mother and other close relatives

who cheated us and tortured us were imprisioned in a jail for 10

days,,,After that he agreed to divorce and give back my educational

certificates,,in march 2nd week we divorced and i took back my

complaint because my elders and relatives want me to come out of

that desperate situation as early as possible to forget those

nightmares and to make me concentrate on my furture career and

and ,,,,On march 24th i had the interview and got the job and am

working right now as a software engineer in JSW Company...

> From that time its a shock for me when we consulted few other

astrologers they started saying that time was very bad on that day

ie 24th dec 2004 Budh in Rahu Mahar dasa had started,,debilitated

Sun in 7th and 7th lord venus in 8th was the reason for this

disaster,,,They also told my parents and me that that effect have

gone now,i will get married again after 2007 july,,,which will be

the happy one,,,My parents have again got some hopes,,,,,,,,,but am

worried if again the same thing repeats i dont have strength to

survive,,,,i will burst...I have made a goal to work hard and help

the poor by constructing one hospital,,,for this am also preparing

for GMAT,,i will apear in next year,,and will move abroad to earn

some good amount of wealth to achieve my goal....My Goal will be

Achieved what?

> One doubt which is creeping my mind is that why didnt the other

astrologers cautioned us before happening this disaster? I would not

have gone for marriage,,,,because of this me,my parents and my

brothers have lost our peace,,,,,,our was most happy family before

this,,,,,My parents have got Blood Pressure and their health is also

deterioting due to this.......Am also feeling very depressed and

lost hopes about my personal life,,,,,Only thing am expecting from

my life is peace and to keep my loved ones happy and to be usefull

to the poor,,,

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> Will my ambition get fullfilled? But staying alone for whole life

is the most difficult one,,,Can i keep any hopes about my personal

life? Please Any one help me clear my mind....I will be very

thankfull to u all .....Thanks for giving ur precious time for me....

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> Here is mine and his (ex husband's ) Birth details

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> Thanks and Regards

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> Concepts like Kaal-Sarpa yoga help only the quacks. See your 7th

lord in the

> 8th with retrograde 6th lord aspected by first rate malefics mars

and

> Saturn. Then see that Venus is Karaka too. What does it signify ?

> Please let me know the source of your TOB.

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> Re: [vedic astrology] My research work on Kal Sarpa Yoga

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> Sir,

> Your Article regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga is very realistic,,Am

> also having Purna Kala Sarpa Yoga,,Rahu,Jupiter,Mars posited in 5th

> house(Simha) and ketu in 11th(Kumba),,,Many astrologers had scared

me by

> telling that i will have many hurldes due to Kala Sarpa Yoga,,,but

i always

> feel and have seen that i had luck in everything,,,I have achieved

what ever

> i had desired till now,,,Had Got both Medical And Engineering

Seat,I opted

> for Computer Science Engineering,Completed without any hicups,then

got the

> job in a One of the Largest Company in india that too in my first

> interview,,,,Iam working in a very good project,,,,,,,Am getting

success in

> everything,,,,But one thing was a shocking disaster in my

life,,,Had got

> married in 2004 Dec 24th,,,,,Had to divorce because the person

whom i had

> got married was a psychic.........Astrologers are telling this is

due to

> Debilitated Sun in my 7th house Libra,,,,,,,No one related it to

Kal Sarpa

> Yoga....If any one wants can

> take the reference of my horoscope.

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>

> The Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

>

> Introduction

> In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the most common

point

> of discussion in the country. It is said that this is most ominous

> combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are destroyed &

the

> native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to be suffering

> through all kind of hardships throughout his life, while his

> hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal Sarpa yoga?

> It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu & Ketu, then it

> becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous combination.

> However, books are being published under this name, with suggested

> remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy by discussing

> about this topic in newspapers, television & internet with the

> relevant information they have about the effects of this yoga.

> The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as the "Kal"

(meaning

> a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) & troubles the

> native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today are talking

> about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga. Some of the

> results, which they opine are, the native's fate is damned, he

> cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not get a job or

> his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may suffer from

> financial problems, problems in having offspring etc. all such

craps.

> According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga, if all the

> planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one or more

planets

> are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in between, then it

> is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga). However if six

> planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another one is located in

> the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal Sarpa Yoga

(Partial

> Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal Sarpa Yoga lead

> more disastrous life than people having Total Kal Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics of Vedic

> astrology, but in this case the problem is that we don't find

> anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra,

> Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita, Phaladeepika, Jatak

> Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar, Jatakabharanam,

> Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati, even the modern

> Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak anything about this

> Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa Yoga in the

> Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in the volume of

> December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While discussing

about

> KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention about its root.

> However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY. The sloka he

> quoted is as under:-

> agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front & ketu is at last

> while all other planets are in between, then this combination is

> called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king of destruction

of

> grains.

> It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has nothing to do with

> personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to mundane

astrology

> (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> In that same magazine, another writer supported this combination by

> refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by Varahamihira & he

> wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is Sun, Mars &

Saturn

> in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses other than

> kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the chapter of nabhas

> Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, & in the texts of

> Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the existence of

Sarpa

> Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas). According to

> him, if malefics are in Kendras then that combination is known

> as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi Parasara to

> support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat Jatakam, also

> named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga didn't include

> Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu or Ketu hasn't

> been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made it clear about

> the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu triñu kendreñu

> päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre bhabati saumya

> graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means if Sun, Saturn &

> Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other planets are not in

> kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the Astrological

> magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu has got nothing

> to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference in classical

> texts, nor supported by any astrological texts, because Maharshi

> Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya, Kalidas, Baidyanath

> Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj or famous

> astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> Results of Rahu & Ketu

> It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa Yoga will have

> a ruined life will devastating results, as all other planets start

> acting as malefics as they lose their potential to do good--- thus

> violating the basic rule as prescribed by Maharshi Parasara. In his

> book Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, Maharshi Parasara has told us how

> to analyse the results of Rahu & Ketu-"yad yad bhävagato rähuù

> ketuçca janane nåëäm

> yad yad bhäbeçasaàyuktastat falaà pradiçedalam" , Rahu & ketu will

> give results according to their houses they are placed & according

> to the conditions the lord of those houses that are placed in a

> given chart. If rahu & ketu, who do not have any power of their won

> to give results, then how the good results of planets placed

between

> Rahu & Ketu will nullify does not have any reasonable answer.

> It is clear according to Maharshi Parasara, that Rahu & Ketu does

> not have anything of their own(as they are Nodes).

> So we cant agree that presence of all planets between Rahu & ketu

> will nullify all the good results of the planets placed, & results

> into Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Without any doubt, Rahu & Ketu are natural malefics and in Brihat

> Parasara Hora sastra we find many yogas formed by Rahu & Ketu

> alongwith any other malefics, but no yogas are mentioned, which is

> formed by Rahu & Ketu. We know that a planet's role (both as a

> benefic & a melefic) depends upon its natural, according to

> lordships, according to its position, according to combinations

> formed.As for Rahu & Ketu, they can't give results according to

> lorshipd, but they have a major role to play according to their

> placements. If Rahu & Ketu is posited in a benefic's house or

> related to any benefic, then definitely it will give good results,

> which has been seen in many of the charts.

> Now let us discuss on Rahu & ketu according to various classical

> literatures. In Laghu Parasari, in 2nd Chapter, 8th sloka, it is

> clearly said that if Rahu or Ketu are posited in Kendras or

Trikonas

> & if they are related to lords of Kendras or Trikonas, then they

> become Rajyogakaraks.

> As you know, malefics if occupy Upachayas(3,6,10,11 houses from

> Lagna) then they give good results. So if Rahu & Ketu occupies the

> above said houses, no doubt they will give good results.

> In Manasagari Paddhati, a very similar sloka is very appropriate in

> the current context of discussion. In that very text, presence of

> Rahu in Brishabh, Kark, Simha & in Kanya have been eulogised & it

is

> said that Rahu acts as a Rajyoga karaka. The results have been seen

> in many natives life, where Rahu is posted in any of the above

signs

> of zodiac.

> In Bhavarthratnakar by Shree Ramanujacharya, we find that presence

> of Rahu in 4th, 5th, 10th, 11th, & in Kendras & konas & presence of

> ketu in 3rd bhava is considered to be auspicious & there it is said

> that Rahu & ketu in their own dasas will give results of similar to

> rajyoga (9th Chapter, Sloka-3-4). In the same text, Shree

> Ramanujacharya has considered Rahu to be a Rajyoga Karak, even if

he

> occupies the 7th bhava.

> As said earlier in the same text viz., Laghu Parasari it is said

> that Rahu & ketu if occupies the kendras & konas & even if they are

> not related to kendra or trikona lords, still in their own antar

> dasas will give results similar to Raj Yogas (chapter 4, sloka 8).

> While discussing about Rahu bhukti under Rahu dasa, Maharshi

Parasar

> says in his book that it is always auspicious to have Rahu in Kark,

> Dhanush, Kanya or Brischik (chapter 41 sloka 1) & in Shani Dasa

Rahu

> Bhukti, he says that it is auspicious to have Rahu in Mesh,

> Brishabh, Karka, Simha, Kanya, Dhanush or in Meen (chapter 43 sloka

> 67).

> As you all know that Sarbarth Chintamani is a good reference while

> analysing dasa results. In the same text the dasa results of rahu

> has been said to be good, provided it is posted in Mesh, Brishabh,

> Karkata, Kanya, Dhanu or in Meen (chapter 16, sloka 21 & 22).

> According to Phaladeepika dasa of Rahu is good when it is posted in

> signs like Kanya, Brischik or Meen (chapter 19, sloka 16).

> Moreover according to Maharshi Parasara, one should predict about

> ones wealth from the position of Rahu (chapter 14 sloka 19). It is

> expected from a learner of Jyotish to know that a well-placed Rahu

> in his dasa gives wealth.

> While speaking about the dasa results of Rahu when it is well

> placed, he says- All are beneficial for the native, be it regarding

> to Kingdom, begetting son, money, wealth, vehicles, construction of

> new home, patronised by the king etc. (chapter 36 sloka 42,46-49).

> Both Parasara & Jaimini are of the opinion that when Ketu is

> auspiciously placed it might result into Moksha.

> All these above said conditions are stated to prove that Rahu &

Ketu

> are not always inauspicious & not at all inauspicious to minimise

> all the good effects of planets posted between them. So, Kal Sarpa

> Yoga is not established by the astrological writings & none of the

> classics mention about it.

> Predicting ones future using this Yoga

> Many of the Astrologers, who all believe this Yoga, tries to prove

> their prediction while using his yoga & if those natives have

> experienced anything ominous, then they rule out that Kal Sarpa

Yoga

> is responsible for such ill effects. If one yoga is enough to

> nullify all good results & if ones relies upon a single yoga, then

> there is no point in talking about such yoga which is irrelevent.

> All the charts published in the "Astrological Magazine" regarding

> Kal Sarpa Yoga, was gone through by another learned astrologer & in

> the same Magazine, he said that all the ill results caused to those

> concerned persons are not due to Kal Sarpa Yoga, but due to the

> presence of planets in inauspicious places.

> Some examples

> Still, we are ready to accept such yoga, which is not supported by

> any classics. But for general belief, we need to give examples for

> proving what we decide, as we do in Science & in Arts. It is

> generally considered that one having Kal Sarpa Yoga suffers

> throughout his life, while "Ardha" Kal Sarpa Yoga is much

> more "poisonous" than "Purna" Kal Sarpa Yoga. Is it relevent to the

> present situation?? Or is it possible?? But we are surprised to

find

> horoscopes of many famous personalities who had Kal Sarpa Yoga

> according to the "present" astrologers, still they had no problem

in

> achieving success.

> Some example of Purna Kal Sarpa yoga:-

> 1) Shree Shree Mahaprabhu Chaitanyadev- Simha Lagna, Moon & Ketu in

> Lagna, Sun, Mercury, Venus & Rahu in 7th, rest of the planets

> between Rahu & Ketu.

> 2) Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru- Karkata lagna, Rahu in 12th, Jupiter with

> Ketu in 6th, rest of the planets between Rahu & Ketu.

> 3) Scientist Dr. K.S. Krishnan- Mesh Lagna, Mercury & Rahu in 9th,

> Ketu in 3rd, rest of the planets between rahu & Ketu.

> There are plenty of examples but I don't want it to be

unnecessarily

> large, so have refrained from giving more examples of Purna Kal

> Sarpa Yoga.

> Now, some examples of Ardha Kal Sarpa yoga or "Bhanga Kal Sarpa

> Yoga": -

> 1) "Father of the Nation" Mahatma Gandhi- Except Jupiter, all

> planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

> 2) Author of the book "Bande Mataram" Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay-

> Except Saturn, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

> 3) Adi Shankaracharya- Except Saturn, all are between Rahu & Ketu.

> 4) Swami Ramanujacharya- Except Jupiter, all planets are between

> Rahu & Ketu.

> 5) Singer Hemanta Mukhopadhayay (better known as Hemant Kumar)-

> Except Mars, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

> The list is endless.

> Conclusion

> Thus we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is nothing but

> a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come to seek

> astrological advice. As the examples given above it is true that

> whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due to planetary

> position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga". I have a

number

> of horoscopes where there is presence of Kal Sarpa Yoga, but those

> persons have felt the height of success in their life, but

inclusion

> of those examples will unnecessarily make this work pretty large.

> I have tried my best to support my article with relevent sources.

> Please forgive the shortcomings, if any.

> I am dedicating this article to my dear lord "Shree Salagram Sila

> rupi Shree NarasimhaNarayanji"..

>

> Thanq,

> Wish u all success,

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