[vedic astrology] My research work on Kal Sarpa Yoga....Ravi Nair

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravi Nayar,

I know about KSY and KAY but I was amused by Krishnamurthy's post.

Hence I posted my reply in jest.....lol

Tatvam-Asi

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear All,

 

Can I intrude !!!

 

Kala Amrita Yoga is not a good Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

When Rahu leads the yoga it is Kala Sarpa Yoga and when Kethu leads the yoga it is Kala Amrita Yoga which does not cause much harm.

 

Movement of Rahu/Kethu is in reverse. Suppose the KSY is on 1/7 axis means Rahu in 1st and Kethu in 7th, in reverse direction Rahu is leading this Yoga and it is KSY.

 

At the same time if Kethu is in 1st and Rahu in 7th, then in reverse direction Kethu is leading this Yoga and it is Kala Amrita Yoga.

 

Regards

 

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

 

I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

 

> Friends,

>

> KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> I have done some work using Rahu centric

> principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> I found that its goodness or badness solely

> depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> disastrous marriage.

> Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> principles easily.

>

> Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham >

> wrote:

> Namaste,

> > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> nothing but

> a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> to seek

> astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> is true that

> whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> to planetary

> position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> ......

>

> Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> 39 , 12 N 15

> [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> for several crores , now happily settled.

> Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

>

> wrote: The

> Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

>

> Introduction

> In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> most common point

> of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> is most ominous

> combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> destroyed & the

> native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> be suffering

> through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> while his

> hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> Sarpa yoga?

> It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> & Ketu, then it

> becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> combination.

> However, books are being published under this name,

> with suggested

> remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> by discussing

> about this topic in newspapers, television &

> internet with the

> relevant information they have about the effects of

> this yoga.

> The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> the "Kal" (meaning

> a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> troubles the

> native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> are talking

> about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Some of the

> results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> damned, he

> cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> get a job or

> his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> suffer from

> financial problems, problems in having offspring

> etc. all such craps.

> According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> if all the

> planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> or more planets

> are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> between, then it

> is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> However if six

> planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> one is located in

> the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> Sarpa Yoga lead

> more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> of Vedic

> astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> don't find

> anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> Hora Sastra,

> Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> Phaladeepika, Jatak

> Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> Jatakabharanam,

> Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> even the modern

> Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> anything about this

> Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> Yoga in the

> Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> the volume of

> December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> discussing about

> KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> about its root.

> However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> The sloka he

> quoted is as under:-

> agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> ketu is at last

> while all other planets are in between, then this

> combination is

> called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> of destruction of

> grains.

> It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> nothing to do with

> personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> mundane astrology

> (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> combination by

> refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> Varahamihira & he

> wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> Sun, Mars & Saturn

> in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> other than

> kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> chapter of nabhas

> Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> in the texts of

> Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> existence of Sarpa

> Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> According to

> him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> combination is known

> as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> Parasara to

> support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> Jatakam, also

> named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> didn't include

> Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> or Ketu hasn't

> been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> it clear about

> the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> triñu kendreñu

> päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> bhabati saumya

> graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> if Sun, Saturn &

> Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> planets are not in

> kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> Astrological

> magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> has got nothing

> to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> in classical

> texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> because Maharshi

> Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> Kalidas, Baidyanath

> Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> or famous

> astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> Results of Rahu & Ketu

> It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> Yoga

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[Guest guest]

Dear Guruji,

Sorry I jumped too fast.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Ravi Nayar,

 

I know about KSY and KAY but I was amused by Krishnamurthy's post.

Hence I posted my reply in jest.....lol

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear All,

 

Can I intrude !!!

 

Kala Amrita Yoga is not a good Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

When Rahu leads the yoga it is Kala Sarpa Yoga and when Kethu leads the yoga it is Kala Amrita Yoga which does not cause much harm.

 

Movement of Rahu/Kethu is in reverse. Suppose the KSY is on 1/7 axis means Rahu in 1st and Kethu in 7th, in reverse direction Rahu is leading this Yoga and it is KSY.

 

At the same time if Kethu is in 1st and Rahu in 7th, then in reverse direction Kethu is leading this Yoga and it is Kala Amrita Yoga.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

 

I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

 

> Friends,

>

> KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> I have done some work using Rahu centric

> principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> I found that its goodness or badness solely

> depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> disastrous marriage.

> Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> principles easily.

>

> Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham >

> wrote:

> Namaste,

> > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> nothing but

> a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> to seek

> astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> is true that

> whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> to planetary

> position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> ......

>

> Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> 39 , 12 N 15

> [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> for several crores , now happily settled.

> Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

>

> wrote: The

> Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

>

> Introduction

> In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> most common point

> of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> is most ominous

> combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> destroyed & the

> native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> be suffering

> through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> while his

> hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> Sarpa yoga?

> It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> & Ketu, then it

> becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> combination.

> However, books are being published under this name,

> with suggested

> remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> by discussing

> about this topic in newspapers, television &

> internet with the

> relevant information they have about the effects of

> this yoga.

> The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> the "Kal" (meaning

> a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> troubles the

> native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> are talking

> about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Some of the

> results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> damned, he

> cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> get a job or

> his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> suffer from

> financial problems, problems in having offspring

> etc. all such craps.

> According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> if all the

> planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> or more planets

> are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> between, then it

> is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> However if six

> planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> one is located in

> the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> Sarpa Yoga lead

> more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> of Vedic

> astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> don't find

> anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> Hora Sastra,

> Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> Phaladeepika, Jatak

> Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> Jatakabharanam,

> Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> even the modern

> Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> anything about this

> Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> Yoga in the

> Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> the volume of

> December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> discussing about

> KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> about its root.

> However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> The sloka he

> quoted is as under:-

> agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> ketu is at last

> while all other planets are in between, then this

> combination is

> called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> of destruction of

> grains.

> It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> nothing to do with

> personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> mundane astrology

> (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> combination by

> refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> Varahamihira & he

> wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> Sun, Mars & Saturn

> in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> other than

> kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> chapter of nabhas

> Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> in the texts of

> Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> existence of Sarpa

> Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> According to

> him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> combination is known

> as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> Parasara to

> support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> Jatakam, also

> named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> didn't include

> Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> or Ketu hasn't

> been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> it clear about

> the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> triñu kendreñu

> päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> bhabati saumya

> graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> if Sun, Saturn &

> Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> planets are not in

> kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> Astrological

> magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> has got nothing

> to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> in classical

> texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> because Maharshi

> Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> Kalidas, Baidyanath

> Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> or famous

> astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> Results of Rahu & Ketu

> It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> Yoga

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[Guest guest]

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

 

Thanks for bearing with mortals like me :-). I have

just started venturing into astrology.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

 

> Dear Ravi Nayar,

>

> I know about KSY and KAY but I was amused by

> Krishnamurthy's post.

> Hence I posted my reply in jest.....lol

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

> "A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Can I intrude !!!

>

> Kala Amrita Yoga is not a good Kala Sarpa Yoga.

>

> When Rahu leads the yoga it is Kala Sarpa Yoga and

> when Kethu leads the yoga it is Kala Amrita Yoga

> which does not cause much harm.

>

> Movement of Rahu/Kethu is in reverse. Suppose the

> KSY is on 1/7 axis means Rahu in 1st and Kethu in

> 7th, in reverse direction Rahu is leading this Yoga

> and it is KSY.

>

> At the same time if Kethu is in 1st and Rahu in 7th,

> then in reverse direction Kethu is leading this Yoga

> and it is Kala Amrita Yoga.

>

> Regards

>

>

> Ravi Nair

>

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 >

> wrote:

> Dear Tatvam-Asi,

>

> I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

> And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

>

> > Friends,

> >

> > KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> > I have done some work using Rahu centric

> > principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> > I found that its goodness or badness solely

> > depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> > I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> > latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> > disastrous marriage.

> > Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> > say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> > principles easily.

> >

> > Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham >

> > wrote:

> > Namaste,

> > > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> > nothing but

> > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> > to seek

> > astrological advice. As the examples given above

> it

> > is true that

> > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was

> due

> > to planetary

> > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa

> Yoga".

> > ......

> >

> > Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> > to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal

> Surpa

> > yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> > 39 , 12 N 15

> > [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle

> class

> > family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> > improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> > ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> > for several crores , now happily settled.

> > Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

> >

> > wrote: The

> > Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> > The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

> >

> > Introduction

> > In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> > most common point

> > of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> > is most ominous

> > combination, all the beneficial roles of planets

> are

> > destroyed & the

> > native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said

> to

> > be suffering

> > through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> > while his

> > hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> > Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> > Sarpa yoga?

> > It is said that if all the planets are between

> Rahu

> > & Ketu, then it

> > becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an

> ominous

> > combination.

> > However, books are being published under this

> name,

> > with suggested

> > remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves

> busy

> > by discussing

> > about this topic in newspapers, television &

> > internet with the

> > relevant information they have about the effects

> of

> > this yoga.

> > The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> > the "Kal" (meaning

> > a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> > troubles the

> > native. For no reason, even the astrologers of

> today

> > are talking

> > about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Some of the

> > results, which they opine are, the native's fate

> is

> > damned, he

> > cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> > get a job or

> > his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> > suffer from

> > financial problems, problems in having offspring

> > etc. all such craps.

> > According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa

> Yoga,

> > if all the

> > planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if

> one

> > or more planets

> > are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> > between, then it

> > is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> > However if six

> > planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> > one is located in

> > the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> > Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga lead

> > more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> > Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> > of Vedic

> > astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> > don't find

> > anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat

> Parasara

> > Hora Sastra,

> > Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> > Phaladeepika, Jatak

> > Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> > Jatakabharanam,

> > Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> > even the modern

> > Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> > anything about this

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> > Yoga in the

> > Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> > the volume of

> > December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994.

> While

> > discussing about

> > KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> > about its root.

> > However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> > The sloka he

> > quoted is as under:-

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

Does that mean a person having KAY having rahu or ketu dasha will face lots of problems like in my case

DOB-3rd sep,1977

Time-3:54 a.m

Place-srinagar-jammu and kashmir

I also dont unerstand one more thing, many people have predicted that my coming mars dasha will be good for me,but my mars is in 12th house-house of losses and i am a manglik too.

My present moon dasha should have been good according to me,but its very bad...

Please make me understand the fundas of astrology..

thanks,

Parul

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Guruji,

 

Sorry I jumped too fast.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Ravi Nayar,

 

I know about KSY and KAY but I was amused by Krishnamurthy's post.

Hence I posted my reply in jest.....lol

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear All,

 

Can I intrude !!!

 

Kala Amrita Yoga is not a good Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

When Rahu leads the yoga it is Kala Sarpa Yoga and when Kethu leads the yoga it is Kala Amrita Yoga which does not cause much harm.

 

Movement of Rahu/Kethu is in reverse. Suppose the KSY is on 1/7 axis means Rahu in 1st and Kethu in 7th, in reverse direction Rahu is leading this Yoga and it is KSY.

 

At the same time if Kethu is in 1st and Rahu in 7th, then in reverse direction Kethu is leading this Yoga and it is Kala Amrita Yoga.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

 

I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

 

> Friends,

>

> KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> I have done some work using Rahu centric

> principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> I found that its goodness or badness solely

> depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> disastrous marriage.

> Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> principles easily.

>

> Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham >

> wrote:

> Namaste,

> > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> nothing but

> a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> to seek

> astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> is true that

> whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> to planetary

> position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> ......

>

> Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> 39 , 12 N 15

> [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> for several crores , now happily settled.

> Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

>

> wrote: The

> Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

>

> Introduction

> In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> most common point

> of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> is most ominous

> combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> destroyed & the

> native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> be suffering

> through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> while his

> hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> Sarpa yoga?

> It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> & Ketu, then it

> becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> combination.

> However, books are being published under this name,

> with suggested

> remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> by discussing

> about this topic in newspapers, television &

> internet with the

> relevant information they have about the effects of

> this yoga.

> The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> the "Kal" (meaning

> a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> troubles the

> native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> are talking

> about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Some of the

> results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> damned, he

> cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> get a job or

> his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> suffer from

> financial problems, problems in having offspring

> etc. all such craps.

> According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> if all the

> planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> or more planets

> are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> between, then it

> is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> However if six

> planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> one is located in

> the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> Sarpa Yoga lead

> more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> of Vedic

> astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> don't find

> anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> Hora Sastra,

> Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> Phaladeepika, Jatak

> Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> Jatakabharanam,

> Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> even the modern

> Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> anything about this

> Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> Yoga in the

> Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> the volume of

> December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> discussing about

> KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> about its root.

> However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> The sloka he

> quoted is as under:-

> agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> ketu is at last

> while all other planets are in between, then this

> combination is

> called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> of destruction of

> grains.

> It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> nothing to do with

> personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> mundane astrology

> (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> combination by

> refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> Varahamihira & he

> wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> Sun, Mars & Saturn

> in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> other than

> kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> chapter of nabhas

> Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> in the texts of

> Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> existence of Sarpa

> Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> According to

> him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> combination is known

> as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> Parasara to

> support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> Jatakam, also

> named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> didn't include

> Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> or Ketu hasn't

> been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> it clear about

> the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> triñu kendreñu

> päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> bhabati saumya

> graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> if Sun, Saturn &

> Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> planets are not in

> kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> Astrological

> magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> has got nothing

> to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> in classical

> texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> because Maharshi

> Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> Kalidas, Baidyanath

> Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> or famous

> astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> Results of Rahu & Ketu

> It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> Yoga

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[Guest guest]

Dear Parulji,

Lot have been discussed about KSY in this Forum. It is true that Parasara Hora or other well known texts do not mention about this yoga. But it is a well known fact that these combinations have always troubled the native to different degrees.

In Kerala circles we give a little importance to these combinations.

The place Srinagar has 5 different lattitude/longtitudes and I am not aware which one to take in your case to refer your horoscope. I have taken the axis as 78E47 and 30N13. Rahu is leading and it is KSY. Rahu/Kethu are in Moola Trikonas. Since it is in 9-3 axis it is named as Shankhachooda Kalasarpayogam. No progress in business, business loss and enimity with persons in high office and other general problems are the main areas of concern. Since Rahu in upachaya and molatrikona not much trouble might have caused to you but at the same time the benefit of Rahu being in upachaya will also not be realised because of the effect of KSY.

Regarding your Moon Dasa, irrespective of your Lagna Lord would not have been much help to you in 10th. Kethu gives virodhargala to Moon giving failures in most of your endeavours.

Regarding next Mars Dasa, advise of other learned Astrologers may be true, looking at the fact that Mars is the lords of 5th&10th, yogakaraka with Jupier the lord of 9th, both in Hora Laga & A9. Both Mars and Jupiter are in enemy house but temporary friends being in 12th.

This Mars is having rasi aspect of Rahu/Kethu and the effects of KSY cannot be ruled out. This effect can be seen upto the natural age of Rahu/Kethu, i.e., 45 years.

Tapaswi yoga caused by Venus & Saturn in lagna and Kethu in 9th will add flavours to it. Since Rahu/Kethu are in moolatrikona, this need not be taken so seriousy and life will go on without much loss/gain.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

parul sharma <booxer999 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hello,

Does that mean a person having KAY having rahu or ketu dasha will face lots of problems like in my case

DOB-3rd sep,1977

Time-3:54 a.m

Place-srinagar-jammu and kashmir

I also dont unerstand one more thing, many people have predicted that my coming mars dasha will be good for me,but my mars is in 12th house-house of losses and i am a manglik too.

My present moon dasha should have been good according to me,but its very bad...

Please make me understand the fundas of astrology..

thanks,

Parul

 

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear Guruji,

 

Sorry I jumped too fast.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Ravi Nayar,

 

I know about KSY and KAY but I was amused by Krishnamurthy's post.

Hence I posted my reply in jest.....lol

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

"A. Ravindran Nair" <rain13club > wrote:

Dear All,

 

Can I intrude !!!

 

Kala Amrita Yoga is not a good Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

When Rahu leads the yoga it is Kala Sarpa Yoga and when Kethu leads the yoga it is Kala Amrita Yoga which does not cause much harm.

 

Movement of Rahu/Kethu is in reverse. Suppose the KSY is on 1/7 axis means Rahu in 1st and Kethu in 7th, in reverse direction Rahu is leading this Yoga and it is KSY.

 

At the same time if Kethu is in 1st and Rahu in 7th, then in reverse direction Kethu is leading this Yoga and it is Kala Amrita Yoga.

 

Regards

 

Ravi Nair

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam-Asi,

 

I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote:

 

> Friends,

>

> KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> I have done some work using Rahu centric

> principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> I found that its goodness or badness solely

> depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> disastrous marriage.

> Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> principles easily.

>

> Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham >

> wrote:

> Namaste,

> > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> nothing but

> a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> to seek

> astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> is true that

> whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> to planetary

> position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> ......

>

> Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> 39 , 12 N 15

> [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> for several crores , now happily settled.

> Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

>

> wrote: The

> Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

>

> Introduction

> In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> most common point

> of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> is most ominous

> combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> destroyed & the

> native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> be suffering

> through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> while his

> hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> Sarpa yoga?

> It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> & Ketu, then it

> becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> combination.

> However, books are being published under this name,

> with suggested

> remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> by discussing

> about this topic in newspapers, television &

> internet with the

> relevant information they have about the effects of

> this yoga.

> The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> the "Kal" (meaning

> a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> troubles the

> native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> are talking

> about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Some of the

> results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> damned, he

> cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> get a job or

> his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> suffer from

> financial problems, problems in having offspring

> etc. all such craps.

> According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> if all the

> planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> or more planets

> are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> between, then it

> is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> However if six

> planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> one is located in

> the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> Sarpa Yoga lead

> more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> Sarpa Yoga.

>

> Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> of Vedic

> astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> don't find

> anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> Hora Sastra,

> Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> Phaladeepika, Jatak

> Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> Jatakabharanam,

> Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> even the modern

> Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> anything about this

> Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> Yoga in the

> Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> the volume of

> December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> discussing about

> KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> about its root.

> However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> The sloka he

> quoted is as under:-

> agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> ketu is at last

> while all other planets are in between, then this

> combination is

> called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> of destruction of

> grains.

> It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> nothing to do with

> personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> mundane astrology

> (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> combination by

> refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> Varahamihira & he

> wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> Sun, Mars & Saturn

> in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> other than

> kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> chapter of nabhas

> Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> in the texts of

> Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> existence of Sarpa

> Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> According to

> him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> combination is known

> as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> Parasara to

> support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> Jatakam, also

> named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> didn't include

> Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> or Ketu hasn't

> been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> it clear about

> the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> triñu kendreñu

> päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> bhabati saumya

> graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> if Sun, Saturn &

> Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> planets are not in

> kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> Astrological

> magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> has got nothing

> to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> in classical

> texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> because Maharshi

> Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> Kalidas, Baidyanath

> Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> or famous

> astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> Results of Rahu & Ketu

> It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> Yoga

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