Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hello, Even I have KSY in my chart. Facing several finacial problems since past several years in business also. Yet unmarried. Is it because of this KSY. Have already performed one pooja. 18/06/77 8=15am Mumbai Regards, Kunal vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Friends, > > KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason . > I have done some work using Rahu centric principles and it is not always that KSY is bad. > I found that its goodness or badness solely depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing. > I checked up many charts including Bush's and latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with disastrous marriage. > Now I can safely say that It would be possible to say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric principles easily. > > Anyone interested , may write to me privately. > > Tatvam-Asi > > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > Namaste, > > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is nothing but > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come to seek > astrological advice. As the examples given above it is true that > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due to planetary > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga". ...... > > Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E 39 , 12 N 15 > [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of improvements, no brothers,he had education up to ' ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth for several crores , now happily settled. > Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!! > > <gg_0202 wrote: The Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga > The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled" > > Introduction > In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the most common point > of discussion in the country. It is said that this is most ominous > combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are destroyed & the > native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to be suffering > through all kind of hardships throughout his life, while his > hardship doesn't yield any good result. > Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal Sarpa yoga? > It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu & Ketu, then it > becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous combination. > However, books are being published under this name, with suggested > remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy by discussing > about this topic in newspapers, television & internet with the > relevant information they have about the effects of this yoga. > The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as the "Kal" (meaning > a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) & troubles the > native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today are talking > about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga. Some of the > results, which they opine are, the native's fate is damned, he > cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not get a job or > his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may suffer from > financial problems, problems in having offspring etc. all such craps. > According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga, if all the > planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one or more planets > are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in between, then it > is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga). However if six > planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another one is located in > the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal Sarpa Yoga (Partial > Kal Sarpa Yoga). > Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal Sarpa Yoga lead > more disastrous life than people having Total Kal Sarpa Yoga. > > Searching the classics for the existence of KSY > Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics of Vedic > astrology, but in this case the problem is that we don't find > anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, > Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita, Phaladeepika, Jatak > Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar, Jatakabharanam, > Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati, even the modern > Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak anything about this > Kal Sarpa Yoga. > Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa Yoga in the > Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in the volume of > December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While discussing about > KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention about its root. > However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY. The sloka he > quoted is as under:- > agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù > yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam > -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front & ketu is at last > while all other planets are in between, then this combination is > called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king of destruction of > grains. > It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has nothing to do with > personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to mundane astrology > (Rashtriya Jyotish). > In that same magazine, another writer supported this combination by > refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by Varahamihira & he > wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is Sun, Mars & Saturn > in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses other than > kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the chapter of nabhas > Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, & in the texts of > Badarayan, Manish & garga etc. > We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the existence of Sarpa > Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas). According to > him, if malefics are in Kendras then that combination is known > as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi Parasara to > support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat Jatakam, also > named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga didn't include > Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu or Ketu hasn't > been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made it clear about > the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu triñu kendreñu > päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre bhabati saumya > graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means if Sun, Saturn & > Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other planets are not in > kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the Astrological > magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu has got nothing > to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga. > We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference in classical > texts, nor supported by any astrological texts, because Maharshi > Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya, Kalidas, Baidyanath > Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj or famous > astrologers didn't accept this yoga. > Results of Rahu & Ketu > It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa Yoga will have > a ruined life will devastating results, as all other planets start > acting as malefics as they lose their potential to do good--- thus > violating the basic rule as prescribed by Maharshi Parasara. In his > book Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, Maharshi Parasara has told us how > to analyse the results of Rahu & Ketu-"yad yad bhävagato rähuù > ketuçca janane nåëäm > yad yad bhäbeçasaàyuktastat falaà pradiçedalam" , Rahu & ketu will > give results according to their houses they are placed & according > to the conditions the lord of those houses that are placed in a > given chart. If rahu & ketu, who do not have any power of their won > to give results, then how the good results of planets placed between > Rahu & Ketu will nullify does not have any reasonable answer. > It is clear according to Maharshi Parasara, that Rahu & Ketu does > not have anything of their own(as they are Nodes). > So we cant agree that presence of all planets between Rahu & ketu > will nullify all the good results of the planets placed, & results > into Kal Sarpa Yoga. > Without any doubt, Rahu & Ketu are natural malefics and in Brihat > Parasara Hora sastra we find many yogas formed by Rahu & Ketu > alongwith any other malefics, but no yogas are mentioned, which is > formed by Rahu & Ketu. We know that a planet's role (both as a > benefic & a melefic) depends upon its natural, according to > lordships, according to its position, according to combinations > formed.As for Rahu & Ketu, they can't give results according to > lorshipd, but they have a major role to play according to their > placements. If Rahu & Ketu is posited in a benefic's house or > related to any benefic, then definitely it will give good results, > which has been seen in many of the charts. > Now let us discuss on Rahu & ketu according to various classical > literatures. In Laghu Parasari, in 2nd Chapter, 8th sloka, it is > clearly said that if Rahu or Ketu are posited in Kendras or Trikonas > & if they are related to lords of Kendras or Trikonas, then they > become Rajyogakaraks. > As you know, malefics if occupy Upachayas(3,6,10,11 houses from > Lagna) then they give good results. So if Rahu & Ketu occupies the > above said houses, no doubt they will give good results. > In Manasagari Paddhati, a very similar sloka is very appropriate in > the current context of discussion. In that very text, presence of > Rahu in Brishabh, Kark, Simha & in Kanya have been eulogised & it is > said that Rahu acts as a Rajyoga karaka. The results have been seen > in many natives life, where Rahu is posted in any of the above signs > of zodiac. > In Bhavarthratnakar by Shree Ramanujacharya, we find that presence > of Rahu in 4th, 5th, 10th, 11th, & in Kendras & konas & presence of > ketu in 3rd bhava is considered to be auspicious & there it is said > that Rahu & ketu in their own dasas will give results of similar to > rajyoga (9th Chapter, Sloka-3-4). In the same text, Shree > Ramanujacharya has considered Rahu to be a Rajyoga Karak, even if he > occupies the 7th bhava. > As said earlier in the same text viz., Laghu Parasari it is said > that Rahu & ketu if occupies the kendras & konas & even if they are > not related to kendra or trikona lords, still in their own antar > dasas will give results similar to Raj Yogas (chapter 4, sloka 8). > While discussing about Rahu bhukti under Rahu dasa, Maharshi Parasar > says in his book that it is always auspicious to have Rahu in Kark, > Dhanush, Kanya or Brischik (chapter 41 sloka 1) & in Shani Dasa Rahu > Bhukti, he says that it is auspicious to have Rahu in Mesh, > Brishabh, Karka, Simha, Kanya, Dhanush or in Meen (chapter 43 sloka > 67). > As you all know that Sarbarth Chintamani is a good reference while > analysing dasa results. In the same text the dasa results of rahu > has been said to be good, provided it is posted in Mesh, Brishabh, > Karkata, Kanya, Dhanu or in Meen (chapter 16, sloka 21 & 22). > According to Phaladeepika dasa of Rahu is good when it is posted in > signs like Kanya, Brischik or Meen (chapter 19, sloka 16). > Moreover according to Maharshi Parasara, one should predict about > ones wealth from the position of Rahu (chapter 14 sloka 19). It is > expected from a learner of Jyotish to know that a well-placed Rahu > in his dasa gives wealth. > While speaking about the dasa results of Rahu when it is well > placed, he says- All are beneficial for the native, be it regarding > to Kingdom, begetting son, money, wealth, vehicles, construction of > new home, patronised by the king etc. (chapter 36 sloka 42,46-49). > Both Parasara & Jaimini are of the opinion that when Ketu is > auspiciously placed it might result into Moksha. > All these above said conditions are stated to prove that Rahu & Ketu > are not always inauspicious & not at all inauspicious to minimise > all the good effects of planets posted between them. So, Kal Sarpa > Yoga is not established by the astrological writings & none of the > classics mention about it. > Predicting ones future using this Yoga > Many of the Astrologers, who all believe this Yoga, tries to prove > their prediction while using his yoga & if those natives have > experienced anything ominous, then they rule out that Kal Sarpa Yoga > is responsible for such ill effects. If one yoga is enough to > nullify all good results & if ones relies upon a single yoga, then > there is no point in talking about such yoga which is irrelevent. > All the charts published in the "Astrological Magazine" regarding > Kal Sarpa Yoga, was gone through by another learned astrologer & in > the same Magazine, he said that all the ill results caused to those > concerned persons are not due to Kal Sarpa Yoga, but due to the > presence of planets in inauspicious places. > Some examples > Still, we are ready to accept such yoga, which is not supported by > any classics. But for general belief, we need to give examples for > proving what we decide, as we do in Science & in Arts. It is > generally considered that one having Kal Sarpa Yoga suffers > throughout his life, while "Ardha" Kal Sarpa Yoga is much > more "poisonous" than "Purna" Kal Sarpa Yoga. Is it relevent to the > present situation?? Or is it possible?? But we are surprised to find > horoscopes of many famous personalities who had Kal Sarpa Yoga > according to the "present" astrologers, still they had no problem in > achieving success. > Some example of Purna Kal Sarpa yoga:- > 1) Shree Shree Mahaprabhu Chaitanyadev- Simha Lagna, Moon & Ketu in > Lagna, Sun, Mercury, Venus & Rahu in 7th, rest of the planets > between Rahu & Ketu. > 2) Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru- Karkata lagna, Rahu in 12th, Jupiter with > Ketu in 6th, rest of the planets between Rahu & Ketu. > 3) Scientist Dr. K.S. Krishnan- Mesh Lagna, Mercury & Rahu in 9th, > Ketu in 3rd, rest of the planets between rahu & Ketu. > There are plenty of examples but I don't want it to be unnecessarily > large, so have refrained from giving more examples of Purna Kal > Sarpa Yoga. > Now, some examples of Ardha Kal Sarpa yoga or "Bhanga Kal Sarpa > Yoga": - > 1) "Father of the Nation" Mahatma Gandhi- Except Jupiter, all > planets are between Rahu & Ketu. > 2) Author of the book "Bande Mataram" Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay- > Except Saturn, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu. > 3) Adi Shankaracharya- Except Saturn, all are between Rahu & Ketu. > 4) Swami Ramanujacharya- Except Jupiter, all planets are between > Rahu & Ketu. > 5) Singer Hemanta Mukhopadhayay (better known as Hemant Kumar)- > Except Mars, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu. > The list is endless. > Conclusion > Thus we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is nothing but > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come to seek > astrological advice. As the examples given above it is true that > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due to planetary > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga". I have a number > of horoscopes where there is presence of Kal Sarpa Yoga, but those > persons have felt the height of success in their life, but inclusion > of those examples will unnecessarily make this work pretty large. > I have tried my best to support my article with relevent sources. > Please forgive the shortcomings, if any. > I am dedicating this article to my dear lord "Shree Salagram Sila > rupi Shree NarasimhaNarayanji"…. > > Thanq, > Wish u all success, > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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