Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 "pegreen123" <PEgreen123 wrote: > In Jnana College the student begins to experience that the > consciousness of the murti and the consciousness of their own self > are essentially the same in different forms, so worship in the temple is the same as worship to their own higher self. Finally, at the PhD. level the evolved saint sees divine conscious shimmering everywhere in all directions and maintains just enough physical sense of presence to remain in the body. For them there is no need to do anything or go anyway as the whole world has become God's effulgent temple, and in that temple there is nothing own and nothing to renounce. Even so, many great beings for their own simple pleasures and enjoyment are drawn to the power of holy sites, temples included. ------------ The top most devotees who also turned out top most jnanis by achieving the top most laurels by pleasing the Lord are .... Hanuman, a topmost devotee identified Lord Rama and served Him and always said `I am servant to Lord Rama'. He even performed many miracles also and still he has given credit of them to Rama only. (Dasoham kosalendrasya.....) For such worship, Lord has given future creator post to Hanuman. St. Peter, St. John, St. Luke... identified Lord Jesus by His divine knowledge and participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. Gopikas identified and worshipped Lord Krishna, the then human incarnation only and got the highest fruit of top most Goloka. Swami Vivekananda participated in the mission of propagation of divine knowledge on the order of the then human incarnation Rama Krishna Paramahamsa. Likewise the disciples of Adi Sankara worshipped Him as lord and latter on participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. Meerabai also propagated Krishna Bhakti by composing hymns and propagated them. In all these the disciples identified the Lord in the human form during their time and participated in His mission as servants. So, first one should identify the Satguru and then learn divine knowledge from Him. These disciples worshipped their Satguru. At His order, they participated in the propagation of divine knowledge as Service to Lord. Service only proves our real devotion, which consists of Karma phala tyaga (sacrifice of money) & karma sanyasa (physically participating in His mission). They were not in any illusion of Advaita. Sankara who propagated advaita (Non-dualism) showed to His disciples that 'you are all not Lord. I am only Lord' by drinking molten lead. The disciples could not drink it. So, only Sankara is Lord in human form and not disciples. If disciples themselves are not Lord, normal human beings cannot even think of in their dreams also. If everybody is God, what is the meaning of spiritual effort? God needs Spiritual Effort to reach God? God created the universe consisting of animate and inanimate objects. He preaches divine knowledge and does miracles also, if required. If anybody claims to be Lord or God, he should be able to do all these things. Greatest devotees never claimed themselves as Lord, they always love to serve the Lord in human form. Satguru (lord in human form) has to be identified by His divine knowledge and serve that Satguru only not any guru. Satguru only can clear all doubts of all disciples. Gurus are devotees having some divine knowledge. So they may sometimes clarify some doubts. Their knowledge is limited only. Only Satguru (lord in human form) will only have the infinite knowledge and clarifies all the doubts of all disciples. Like the studies in our materialistic life, one has to pass through elementary, higher, college and should finally enter university. After studies in University one will join job to serve the country. Like wise, one should serve Lord in human form. Self-analysis is the analysis of self with the help of Satguru who can only show your internal situation. Ex. a doctor can only see the x-ray and diagnose the ailment and give you medicines. Reaching Self is only an intermediate step in the spiritual journey towards the final goal of reaching Lord. Reaching self is not reaching Lord. In spiritual effort three important things are there. 1) knowing about self 2) Knowing the destination 3) the path to reach the destination. Regarding knowing about self, it is sufficient if you know that you are not the destination. Regarding knowing the destination, you should identify the Lord in human form and He is our destination. the identification is by His true infinite spiritual knowledge. Path is the most essential part of spiritual journey. The path leading to Lord is full of sacrifice only, which is only the real indication of our true love towards Him. That is why Jesus told the path leading to kingdom of Lord is very narrow filled with thorns. Because practical sacrifice nobody enjoys. Sacrificing words, mind and intelligence can be done without botheration as Lord has already given them freely. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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