Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Dear Wendy, You wrote: // S. T. Meridian 15E00 was not adopted until 1893. Until then local mean time varied depending on the area of Italy i.e., Italian Peninsula (local meant time of Rome12E29), Sardinia (local mean time of Cagiliari 9E06), Sicily (local mean time of Palermo13E22). // My query: Could you reference your source, please. My interest is in cross referencing the little bit of information that I do have. Which is the following: " In October 1884 the International Meridian Conference ..... did adopt a universal day of 24 hours beginning at Greenwich midnight, but specified that it "shall not interfere with the use of local or standard time where desirable." This quote comes from the documented paragraph under HISTORY in the Links Table of Jyotish-Vidya forum, titled World Time Zone. It is under its subheading titled "Time Zone". Along with the following article in the Link Table on the Jyotish-Vidya forum on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Meridian_Conference If you could enlighten, for better understanding and knowledge, I would be most appreciative. As Always, Uttara "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you...As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." from A Return To Love: by Marianne Williamson Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Uttara, Just quickly before I switch off - about to go out for the day... My source is the series of books by 'Doris Chase Doane' (I'm sure I've mentioned this before). They've been on my library shelf since I first started studying Astrology - requisite tools of the trade before the days of computer software :-) 1) Time Changes in the World. 2) Time Changes in the USA. 3) Time Changes in Canada and Mexico. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Uttara" <muttaraphalguni > <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:39 AM Padre Pio Dear Wendy, You wrote: // S. T. Meridian 15E00 was not adopted until 1893. Until then local mean time varied depending on the area of Italy i.e., Italian Peninsula (local meant time of Rome12E29), Sardinia (local mean time of Cagiliari 9E06), Sicily (local mean time of Palermo13E22). // My query: Could you reference your source, please. My interest is in cross referencing the little bit of information that I do have. Which is the following: " In October 1884 the International Meridian Conference ..... did adopt a universal day of 24 hours beginning at Greenwich midnight, but specified that it "shall not interfere with the use of local or standard time where desirable." This quote comes from the documented paragraph under HISTORY in the Links Table of Jyotish-Vidya forum, titled World Time Zone. It is under its subheading titled "Time Zone". Along with the following article in the Link Table on the Jyotish-Vidya forum on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Meridian_Conference If you could enlighten, for better understanding and knowledge, I would be most appreciative. As Always, Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thanks!! Yes, you have mentioned Doris Chase Doane before in your references. So, I appreciate that you have noted her and her series of books here again. I know I must have her in one of my piles of paperwork, as a note to order her books!! Hope your day was a good one! June 4th, it is my husband's 59th birthday - where does the time go?! As Always, Uttara Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Uttara, Just quickly before I switch off - about to go out for the day... My source is the series of books by 'Doris Chase Doane' (I'm sure I've mentioned this before). They've been on my library shelf since I first started studying Astrology - requisite tools of the trade before the days of computer software :-) 1) Time Changes in the World. 2) Time Changes in the USA. 3) Time Changes in Canada and Mexico. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Uttara" <muttaraphalguni > <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:39 AM Padre Pio Dear Wendy, You wrote: // S. T. Meridian 15E00 was not adopted until 1893. Until then local mean time varied depending on the area of Italy i.e., Italian Peninsula (local meant time of Rome12E29), Sardinia (local mean time of Cagiliari 9E06), Sicily (local mean time of Palermo13E22). // My query: Could you reference your source, please. My interest is in cross referencing the little bit of information that I do have. Which is the following: " In October 1884 the International Meridian Conference ..... did adopt a universal day of 24 hours beginning at Greenwich midnight, but specified that it "shall not interfere with the use of local or standard time where desirable." This quote comes from the documented paragraph under HISTORY in the Links Table of Jyotish-Vidya forum, titled World Time Zone. It is under its subheading titled "Time Zone". Along with the following article in the Link Table on the Jyotish-Vidya forum on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Meridian_Conference If you could enlighten, for better understanding and knowledge, I would be most appreciative. As Always, Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Uttara, This is interesting. I would like to more about this so that we could arrive at the right time of birth for Padre Pio. I am doing research on Longevity. I am in the process of developing a technique of arriving at dasha/bhukti of death given the birth details of a person. I think I am almost there but for a few glitches. When I first got Padre Pio's time of birth as 16:10 GMT+2, I analysed his chart and arrived at the period of death as Venus/Satrun which matched with the date of his death. I was happy to get one more data point to prove my theory. However, subsequently, we had some more discussion with different LMTs suggested for him. Everytime I analysed Padre Pio's chart with the new LMT suggested. However, none of these are giving me Venus/Satrun as the period of death. It could be due to a flaw in my technique/framework. I may need to work on my theory further and improve it. In any case, I am keen on finding out if by 1887, some parts of Italy was using the standard time zone or not. If so whether Padre Pio's time of birth was really 16:10 hrs GMT+2. Regards, Krishna --- Uttara <muttaraphalguni > wrote: > Dear Wendy, > > You wrote: > > // S. T. Meridian 15E00 was not adopted until > 1893. Until then > local mean time varied depending on the area of > Italy i.e., Italian > Peninsula (local meant time of Rome12E29), Sardinia > (local mean time > of Cagiliari 9E06), Sicily (local mean time of > Palermo13E22). // > > My query: > > Could you reference your source, please. > > My interest is in cross referencing the little bit > of information that I do have. Which is the > following: > > " In October 1884 the International Meridian > Conference ..... did adopt a universal day of 24 > hours beginning at Greenwich midnight, but specified > that it "shall not interfere with the use of local > or standard time where desirable." > > > > This quote comes from the documented paragraph > under HISTORY in the Links Table of Jyotish-Vidya > forum, titled World Time Zone. It is under its > subheading titled "Time Zone". > > Along with the following article in the Link Table > on the Jyotish-Vidya forum on the subject: > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Dear Krishna, If I might add my thoughts here :-) You Wrote (to Uttara): //This is interesting. I would like to more about this so that we could arrive at the right time of birth for Padre Pio.// I think the only doubt that needs to be cleared away is whether Petietrelcina is in the Italian Peninsula region (which observed Rome local time during his year of birth) or whether Petietrelcina is in the Sardinia region of Italy, or the Sicily region. These three areas observed a different time when Padre Pio was born. So, which area Petietrelcina falls in is the question to be asked, wouldn't you say? //When I first got Padre Pio's time of birth as 16:10 GMT+2, I analysed his chart and arrived at the period of death as Venus/Satrun which matched with the date of his death. I was happy to get one more data point to prove my theory. However, subsequently, we had some more discussion with different LMTs suggested for him. Everytime I analysed Padre Pio's chart with the new LMT suggested. However, none of these are giving me Venus/Satrun as the period of death.// With the T.O.B. (according to his birth record) of 17:00 local time, my PL software, which I rely upon, calculates the T.Z. (for that date) as -00:50:24. This gives lagna 17°05'19" Libra. The dasa running at time of death is given as VE-SA-SU. Looking at the transit chart for that day, Sun, along with Ketu & Moon, was transiting 12th house. Venus, transiting 3rd lord Jupiter (in lagna) was joined by 12th lord Mercury...close conjunction (within 1°). Transit Saturn, significator for death/longevity was aspecting lagna, transit lagna lord, as well as natal lagna lord... Perhaps we might consider the significance of the mutual aspect between Saturn and ME/VE bearing in mind that they (also) own the 12th and 8th respectively...could this perhaps be the catalyst for Saturn to assume his responsibility for death. And, as we know, 4th house (owned by Saturn) governs endings, conditions at close of life and so forth... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:00 PM Re: Padre Pio Dear Uttara, This is interesting. I would like to more about this so that we could arrive at the right time of birth for Padre Pio. I am doing research on Longevity. I am in the process of developing a technique of arriving at dasha/bhukti of death given the birth details of a person. I think I am almost there but for a few glitches. When I first got Padre Pio's time of birth as 16:10 GMT+2, I analysed his chart and arrived at the period of death as Venus/Satrun which matched with the date of his death. I was happy to get one more data point to prove my theory. However, subsequently, we had some more discussion with different LMTs suggested for him. Everytime I analysed Padre Pio's chart with the new LMT suggested. However, none of these are giving me Venus/Satrun as the period of death. It could be due to a flaw in my technique/framework. I may need to work on my theory further and improve it. In any case, I am keen on finding out if by 1887, some parts of Italy was using the standard time zone or not. If so whether Padre Pio's time of birth was really 16:10 hrs GMT+2. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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