Mayapur goshalla - cow population projection economics

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For a question like this, a good person to contact would be Jaya Lalita prabhu,

a Gita-nagari "alumna" who also has a masters degree in resource economics.

(She's an economist for the Army Corps of Engineers.)

 

Sometimes small cows that don't require much food appear economical -- but you

also need to calculate in the factor that it requires the production of more

bull calves for them to produce an equivalent amount of milk as a larger cow --

and that each of these bull calves will have to be fed for their entire life,

not just that one year. Even with cows of the same breed, sometimes (factoring

in the lifetime expense of calves produced) it pays in the long run to used

improved feed and improved pasture management techniques to increase the

quantity of milk in each lactation.

 

Jaya Lalita is specifically trained in resource analysis projections, and if

given reasonably accurate base figures, would probably be able to lay out the

actual economics of the situation. If you want to contact her, her address in

Texas is jayalalitadd (AT) home (DOT) com.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

 

 

"ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote:

 

> Tharparkar cows (indigenous breed to India) provide more milk on less food.

> I am not sure about how long the lactation period. "When left on arid

> pasture the milk production is approximately 1135 kg per lactation, while

> those animals maintained in the villages average 1980 kg." The point is that

> breed choice can determine the number of cows produced by the breeding

> because you would need less cows breeding with a breed such as Tharpakar and

> therefore less cows produced.

>

> Besides this, how about cutting down on the milk needs? With the poor record

> of taking care of the cows they breed this should be a serious

> consideration. And then waht about paying a realistic price for the milk so

> that the Mayapur goshalla is not always in arrears with their financing? A

> price that takes into consideration of what it takes to protect a cow for an

> entire lifetime.

> -

> "Pancaratna ACBSP" <Pancaratna.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> "Cow (Protection and related issues)" <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:31 PM

> Mayapur goshalla

>

> > Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya!

> >

> > I have been trying to figure out what size of herd you would need to

> > maintain if you wanted to keep the herd size stable and have 50 cows

> milking

> > at any one time (the current number of milkers in Mayapur). The difficulty

> > is that these cows have a short lactation of less than a year.

> >

> > I figure that if each cow is allowed only two calves (theoretically giving

> 0

> > population growth) and if the average life of a cow is 18 years you would

> > get just one out of 9 cows and bulls milking at any one time to keep

> > equilibrium. I based this on simply dividing 18 by two years of lactation.

> > BUt this is just a guess. I can't seem to get my head around the math.

> >

> > Does anyone have a better understanding of this?

> >

> > Your servant,

> > Pancaratna das

 

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BOWDOIN COLLEGE

Department of Theater & Dance

9100 College Station

Brunswick ME 04011-8491

 

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[Guest guest]

For India, the big factor is whether they are suited to the climate- for

Vrindavan, heat tolerance is absolutely essential. They have a few Jerseys

that sit in puddles in the shade the whole of summer, roasting. But Indian

cows are happy to be in mid-summer heat, with or without shade. And this is

despite the fact they give not much milk and for not long periods either,

still climate must be taken into account.

 

In Mayapur, breeds have to be tolerant of the diseases that come with

trpoical high humidity, and to a certain extent heat as well.

 

ys, Niscala

 

>"Noma T. Petroff" <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>

>"Noma T. Petroff" <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>, Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net

>"Cow (Protection and related issues)" <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

>Re: Mayapur goshalla - cow population projection economics

>Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:36 -0500

>

>For a question like this, a good person to contact would be Jaya Lalita

>prabhu,

>a Gita-nagari "alumna" who also has a masters degree in resource economics.

>(She's an economist for the Army Corps of Engineers.)

>

>Sometimes small cows that don't require much food appear economical -- but

>you

>also need to calculate in the factor that it requires the production of

>more

>bull calves for them to produce an equivalent amount of milk as a larger

>cow --

>and that each of these bull calves will have to be fed for their entire

>life,

>not just that one year. Even with cows of the same breed, sometimes

>(factoring

>in the lifetime expense of calves produced) it pays in the long run to used

>improved feed and improved pasture management techniques to increase the

>quantity of milk in each lactation.

>

>Jaya Lalita is specifically trained in resource analysis projections, and

>if

>given reasonably accurate base figures, would probably be able to lay out

>the

>actual economics of the situation. If you want to contact her, her address

>in

>Texas is jayalalitadd (AT) home (DOT) com.

>

>your servant,

>

>Hare Krsna dasi

>

>

>

>"ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote:

>

> > Tharparkar cows (indigenous breed to India) provide more milk on less

>food.

> > I am not sure about how long the lactation period. "When left on arid

> > pasture the milk production is approximately 1135 kg per lactation,

>while

> > those animals maintained in the villages average 1980 kg." The point is

>that

> > breed choice can determine the number of cows produced by the breeding

> > because you would need less cows breeding with a breed such as Tharpakar

>and

> > therefore less cows produced.

> >

> > Besides this, how about cutting down on the milk needs? With the poor

>record

> > of taking care of the cows they breed this should be a serious

> > consideration. And then waht about paying a realistic price for the milk

>so

> > that the Mayapur goshalla is not always in arrears with their financing?

>A

> > price that takes into consideration of what it takes to protect a cow

>for an

> > entire lifetime.

> > -

> > "Pancaratna ACBSP" <Pancaratna.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> > "Cow (Protection and related issues)" <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> > Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:31 PM

> > Mayapur goshalla

> >

> > > Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya!

> > >

> > > I have been trying to figure out what size of herd you would need to

> > > maintain if you wanted to keep the herd size stable and have 50 cows

> > milking

> > > at any one time (the current number of milkers in Mayapur). The

>difficulty

> > > is that these cows have a short lactation of less than a year.

> > >

> > > I figure that if each cow is allowed only two calves (theoretically

>giving

> > 0

> > > population growth) and if the average life of a cow is 18 years you

>would

> > > get just one out of 9 cows and bulls milking at any one time to keep

> > > equilibrium. I based this on simply dividing 18 by two years of

>lactation.

> > > BUt this is just a guess. I can't seem to get my head around the math.

> > >

> > > Does anyone have a better understanding of this?

> > >

> > > Your servant,

> > > Pancaratna das

>

>--

>Noma Petroff

>Academic Department Coordinator

>BOWDOIN COLLEGE

>Department of Theater & Dance

>9100 College Station

>Brunswick ME 04011-8491

>

>Phone: (207) 725-3663

>FAX: (207) 725-3372

>e-mail: npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu

>

>

 

 

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