RE: prafulla ji--JR] ketu+ venus True/Mean? Lahiri/raman 1/6

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Prafulla,

  pl do cover on astro reads as u did now, whatver gap was there is fine from ur past readings

 

  Now one poitn i wanted to ask all ur posts PAN across over 100  characters of text doenst break into the next line so we r forced  to  move to the right any clue? it is with your posts only rrest  break to next line are u using notepad without word wrap? to compile  and then paste here?

  if so set word wrap on in note pad and try.

 

 

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:        Dear Tarun

 

  I stay away from predictive astrology..

 

yes, saturn being lord of 5th and 6th in 2nd house with moon (11th  lord)..and lord of 12th sun in 11th house (under aspect of sun).  Technically, there is association of 6th lord and 12th lord ..sort of  VRY (- plus - = +); Yet, this gives challenges.

 

  associaton of 11th lord and 6th lord gives health issues as well, esp in 2nd house.

 

  regards / Prafulla Gang

 

  Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will  elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but  if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently  on your shoulder.

 

 

  >

  > tarun_vst

  > Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:05:44 +0100 (BST)

  >

  > prafulla ji--JR] ketu+ venus True/Mean? :ajiri/raman 1/6

  >

  > Sir , basically im civil engg. i wished to study more but some problems

  > didnt allowed me.

  >  abt profession or foregin connections...right now i dont have any such.

  >  but now i m trying to enter in exports business with my brother.

  >  he is having a sound business in furniture and jewelry exports. and as

  > my 9th lord and 2nd lord in

  >  12th house so i am also trying to get in exports only.

  >  as i have mercury in 11th house so i am unable to have one fixed job or

  > work..lot of changes

  >  happens in my work.

  >  Sir what are the expect results of saturn in 2nd and sun in 11th house

  > ??

  >  i tried to explore it much but didnt find any right answer.

  >  Thanks and Best Regards

  >  Tarun

  >  www.thevinayak.com

  >  --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

  >  > Dear Tarun

  >  >

  >  > for the boderline cases, read bhava chalit too; or read the effects of

  > the planets in terms of

  >  > promixity to bhava madhaya. Your rahu / ketu at 29' and lagna at 2'

  > makes the effect full..can

  >  > be reflected in resultants from transit.

  >  >

  >  > BTW, your rahu / mars and jup/ketu in D9 forming association; so read

  > rahu's close influence on

  >  > mars. Verify, if you have foreign involvement of works (either job, or

  > trade etc).

  >  >

  >  > Real challenge in your chart is for saturn, sun, rahu, ketu at bhava

  > madhaya - giving

  >  > unavoidable results (good or bad - either)- esp saturn in 2nd house

  > and 12th lord sun in 11th

  >  > house.

  >  >

  >  > BTW venus is lacking desire (for debilitation), but in 12th house

  > (kala purusha's exaltation) -

  >  > it is generally good. See, if your foreign links is around creative

  > works.

  >  >

  >  > regards / Prafulla Gang

  >  >

  >  > Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will

  > elude you, if you capture

  >  > it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on

  > other things, it might just

  >  > come and sit gently on your shoulder.

  >  >

  >  >

  >  > >

  >  > > tarun_vst

  >  > > Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:19 +0100 (BST)

  >  > >

  >  > > Re: His Chart tarun!Re: ketu+ venus True/Mean?

  > :ajiri/raman

  >  > > 1/6

  >  > >

  >  > > Dear Prashant ji

  >  > >  Thanks for your mail and proper guidence.

  >  > >  Sir in my view both are correct in their assumption. but Lahiri

  > preside

  >  > > because he remained

  >  > >  president of natinal calender.

  >  > >  if we go in for deep study we must see the swiss ephermis because

  > they

  >  > > have used latest equipments

  >  > >  for determination of planets position in respect of Equator.

  >  > >  I am not supporting western astrology because they are weak in

  >  > > pertaining the dasha system.

  >  > >  well i m still a newbie in astrology as i m running in saturn rahu

  >  > > period so its hard for me to

  >  > >  keep memory updated.

  >  > >  Thanks and Best Regards

  >  > >  Tarun

  >  > >  www.thevinayak.com

  >  > >  --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

  >  > >  > Hi Tarun

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between

  > Bangalore

  >  > > where B V Raman LIVED 12

  >  > >  > DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u SAID is

  > less

  >  > > than the min twice the

  >  > >  > distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the assumed

  >  > > difference

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission who

  >  > > studied  just 37 villages and

  >  > >  > detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC setup,

  >  > > result,no socological or

  >  > >  > scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the ones

  > listed

  >  > > get most and rest of

  >  > >  > really backward  suffer].

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas present

  > in

  >  > > the  country in 1956 as

  >  > >  > chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie at

  > the

  >  > > most accepted, accurate one

  >  > >  > but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own may be

  > a

  >  > > mean of all  33 systems

  >  > >  > around...!

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on festivals

  > were

  >  > > standardised it is better

  >  > >  > than no standard at all.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works prior to

  >  > > ramna  and his grandfather laud

  >  > >  > the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination

  > precession

  >  > > of the Equinx at Zita

  >  > >  > Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools, caliculations.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is

  > nothing

  >  > > but  revathi, Raman's is

  >  > >  > Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please test the

  > same

  >  > > and find what works for u

  >  > >  > use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem here

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO SING

  > EVEN

  >  > > West Asian intrusions like

  >  > >  > Ghazals.

  >  > >  >   but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are

  > stalwarts

  >  > > at both.

  >  > >  >   and Ghazals too.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even doubted

  > if he

  >  > > is  father of Astrology as

  >  > >  > his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I am not

  >  > > saying he is a Malyalee, sure

  >  > >  > there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI

  > SHANKARA too

  >  > > is from there whose

  >  > >  > works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches

  > profusely

  >  > > quote him and without

  >  > >  > swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a

  > breather for

  >  > > a hundred to max 200 yrs

  >  > >  > more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass

  > production of

  >  > > Islamic pouuplation in

  >  > >  > India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as posible in

  > a

  >  > > war  footing.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the risk of

  > being

  >  > > dubbed communal,

  >  > >  > obscuranist, so no one can save it.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education

  > system of

  >  > > Maculay which we still

  >  > >  > have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our fathers

  >  > > barbarians and bastards and we

  >  > >  > mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

  >  > >  > and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church must

  >  > > enligthen India...!

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and masala

  > here.

  >  > >  >   I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here itis

  > just

  >  > > a  statemnt of what we

  >  > >  > see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives among

  > them

  >  > > too.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst >  wrote:        Dear RR ji,

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman

  > ayanamsa

  >  > > my dasha changes by 18

  >  > >  > months.

  >  > >  >   the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   actually raman livd in south india and his location was much

  > near to

  >  > > equator in comparison to

  >  > >  >   Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his calculations)

  > so the

  >  > > diff is easily expected.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   my dob 19-07-1983

  >  > >  >   time:- 10.35 am

  >  > >  >   place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows rahu

  > in

  >  > > 9th .

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   i was always confused abt whom to follow.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and if i

  >  > > consider true node then too my

  >  > >  >   chart changes.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   but as far as for Miss astro.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because venus

  > and

  >  > > ketu dont give much better

  >  > >  >   results as she is descibing.

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   thanks and regards

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   tarun

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

  >  > >  >

  >  > >  >   > Tarun ji,

  >  > >  >   > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last time!>

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because ketu and

  >  > > venus

  >  > >  >   > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if using

  >  > > Raman

  >  > >  >   > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another conundrum!

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same sign

  > and

  >  > >  >   > house (9th)

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in different

  >  > > signs :-

  >  > >  >   > )

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us

  > against

  >  > > yet

  >  > >  >   > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar jaaoon --

  >  > > kidhar

  >  > >  >   > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and

  > comment on

  >  > >  >   > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true nodes?

  >  > >  >   >

  >  > >  >   > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes, isn't

  >  > > Jyotish

  >  > >  >   > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for

  > lifetimes?

  >  >

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