His Chart tarun!ketu+ venus True/Mean? :ajiri/raman 1/6

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Hi Tarun

 

  Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between Bangalore  where B V Raman LIVED 12 DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u SAID is less than the min twice the distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the assumed difference

 

  about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission who studied  just 37 villages and detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC setup, result,no socological or scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the ones listed get most and rest of really backward  suffer].

 

  N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas present in the  country in 1956 as chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie at the most accepted, accurate one but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own may be a mean of all  33 systems around...!

 

  this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on festivals were standardised it is better than no standard at all.

 

  RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works prior to ramna  and his grandfather laud the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination precession of the Equinx at Zita Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools, caliculations.

 

  Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is nothing but  revathi, Raman's is Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please test the same and find what works for u use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

 

  again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem here

 

  NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO SING EVEN West Asian intrusions like Ghazals.

  but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are stalwarts at both.

  and Ghazals too.

 

  North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even doubted if he is  father of Astrology as his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I am not saying he is a Malyalee, sure there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI SHANKARA too is from there whose  works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches profusely  quote him and without swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a breather for a hundred to max 200 yrs more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass production of Islamic pouuplation in  India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as posible in a war  footing.

 

  TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the risk of being dubbed communal, obscuranist, so no one can save it.

 

  Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education system of  Maculay which we still have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our fathers barbarians and bastards and we mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church must enligthen India...!

 

  I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and masala here.

  I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here itis just a  statemnt of what we see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives among them too.

 

 

~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote:        Dear RR ji,

 

  no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

 

  sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman ayanamsa my dasha changes by 18 months.

  the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

 

  actually raman livd in south india and his location was much near to equator in comparison to

  Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his calculations) so the diff is easily expected.

 

  my dob 19-07-1983

  time:- 10.35 am

  place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

 

  sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows rahu in 9th .

 

  i was always confused abt whom to follow.

 

  but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and if i consider true node then too my

  chart changes.

 

  but as far as for Miss astro.

 

  i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because venus and ketu dont give much better

  results as she is descibing.

 

  thanks and regards

 

  tarun

 

 

 

 

  --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

 

  > Tarun ji,

  > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last time!>

  >

  > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because ketu and venus

  > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if using Raman

  > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another conundrum!

  >

  > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same sign and

  > house (9th)

  >

  > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in different signs :-

  > )

  >

  > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us against yet

  > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar jaaoon -- kidhar

  > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

  >

  > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and comment on

  > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true nodes?

  >

  > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes, isn't Jyotish

  > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for lifetimes? How

  > much work there is to be done, by so few sincerely interested

  > individuals on this Jyotish Island! And yet some would rather keep

  > griping and whining about problems that do not exists but only lie in

  > their (mis)perception!

  >

  > RR

  >

  >

  >

  > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>

  > wrote:

  > >

  > > Hii ???

  > >

  > > well love happens when 5th lord is strong.

  > > but first thing is that...frm which angle you find venus ketu

  > combination in his chart.

  > >

  > > i m using lahiri ayanamsa to analyse.

  > >

  > > he is spiritual because guru is aspecting lagna even being worst in

  > 7th house.

  > >

  > > currently his buddha dasha is commencing which is lord 3rd and 6th

  > house.

  > >

  > > one more combination of moon+mercury is in his chart. and that too

  > is a dobutful combination but

  > > as moon is in amavasya then its effects are null.

  > >

  > > about love marriage...its impossible in his chart.as mars in 5th

  > house so it wont make him to do

  > > that.

  > > 7th lord and 9th lord has exchange and that will surely make him to

  > get in arrange marriage.

  > >

  > > i hope other astrologers will also guide my answers

  > >

  > > well he himself know abt the effects of 5th mars and 7th jupiter as

  > per lal kitab.

  > >

  > > Thanks and Best Regards

  > >

  > > tarun.

  > >

  > >

  > > --- miss_astro19 <miss_astro19> wrote:

  > >

 

  > > >  his chart

  > > >

  > > >  dob--- 26/11/1981

  > > >  tob--- 16.08

  > > >  pob--- ajmer

  > > >

  > > >  he is very very shy of girls, and with god blessings even being

  > very

  > > > smart and intelligent no girl has got attracted towards him to

  > > > distract him, and tht too in this age where any boy can easily

  > have a

  > > > gf.

  > > >

  > > >   many astrologers told he will have a love marriage,but our

  > guruji

  > > > said tht his shukra his weakest, and jupiter in 7th wont allow

  > him

  > > > marriage wht to say abt love marriage.

  > > >

  > > >  he is an astrologer himself, and tht too very good one, u can

  > view

  > > > his posts on lalkitab group..

  > > > 

  > > >  his dreams come true, he saw many world happening much before

  > they

  > > > occured in his derams, like worl trade towers crashing, killing

  > of

  > > > abdul ghani loan, sunami etc.

  > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

  > > > wrote:

  > > > >

  > > > > Hii,

  > > > >

  > > > > well i cant say about him. But this combination often shows the

  > > > described things.

  > > > >

  > > > > can u provide his chart so tht other astrologers can find it

  > out

  > > > the reason of him being good.

  > > > >

  > > > > Take care

  > > > >

  > > > > bye

  > > > > tarun

--- miss_astro19 <miss_astro19@> wrote:

  > > > >

  > > > > >

  > > > > >  hey i dont agree with u,

  > > > > >

  > > > > >  coz this combination is present in my brother's chart, and

  > he

  > > > stays

  > > > > > away from ill deeds, he is a very firm devotee of hanuman ji,

  > and

  > > > > > his morals are super high.

  > > > > >

  > > > > >  has no gf, doesnt even like to tlk to girls, he doesnt wanna

  > > > marry,

  > > > > > coz he is destined to lead an ascetic life as much as i know,

  > as

  > > > > > told by our guruji tht he is an incarnation of some saint in

  > > > > > previous life.

  > > > > >

  > > > > >  no boy of his age can equal him in this regard.

 

  > > > > > , ~~Tarun~~

  > <tarun_vst@>

  > > > > > wrote:

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > > Hello

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > > in my experience.. i have seen people with venus + ketu as

  > lose

  > > > > > morals..instead of good in

  > > > > > > character.

  > > > > > > it shows bad karmas in past and curse of spouse

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > > thanks

  > > > > > > tarun

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

  > > > > > >

  > > > > > > > Miss Astro,'

  > > > > > > >  

  > > > > > > >   There r no such die cast or stone cast rules all r time

  > > > > > dependant

  > > > > > > >   that is YOGA, DASA, GOCHARA, BALA'S packed and

  > delivered.

  > > > > > > >  

  > > > > > > >   as I know this can give some people a connection with

  > power

  > > > to

  > > > > > the  father say electricty in

  > > > > > > > some form worked for a power coropration  distributor, a

  > UPS,

  > > > > > battery company or dealng in

  > > > > > > > electrical  apliances, goods, service, lamps.else some

  > alien

  > > > > > religion related  activities, MNC

  > > > > > > > finincial instutions.

  > > > > > > >  

  > > > > > > >   all on factors as said above

  > > > > > > >  

  > > > > > > >   most important may marry against father's wishes and or

  > > > their

  > > > > > marriage is a cause of concern

  > > > > > > > to the father at sometime.

  > > > > > > >   H R Shankar wrote this in ASTROLOGICAL MAGGAZINE in the

  > > > 80's

  > > > > > HE IS FROM  BENGAL A GOOD

  > > > > > > > RESEARCH  based astrologer

  > > > > > > >  

  >

 

Prashantkumar G B

  

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Dear Prashant ji

 

Thanks for your mail and proper guidence.

 

Sir in my view both are correct in their assumption. but Lahiri preside because he remained

president of natinal calender.

 

if we go in for deep study we must see the swiss ephermis because they have used latest equipments

for determination of planets position in respect of Equator.

 

I am not supporting western astrology because they are weak in pertaining the dasha system.

 

well i m still a newbie in astrology as i m running in saturn rahu period so its hard for me to

keep memory updated.

 

Thanks and Best Regards

 

Tarun

www.thevinayak.com

 

--- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

 

> Hi Tarun

>  

>   Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between Bangalore  where B V Raman LIVED 12

> DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u SAID is less than the min twice the

> distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the assumed difference

>  

>   about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission who studied  just 37 villages and

> detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC setup, result,no socological or

> scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the ones listed get most and rest of

> really backward  suffer].

>  

>   N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas present in the  country in 1956 as

> chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie at the most accepted, accurate one

> but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own may be a mean of all  33 systems

> around...!

>  

>   this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on festivals were standardised it is better

> than no standard at all.

>  

>   RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works prior to ramna  and his grandfather laud

> the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination precession of the Equinx at Zita

> Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools, caliculations.

>  

>   Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is nothing but  revathi, Raman's is

> Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please test the same and find what works for u

> use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

>  

>   again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem here

>  

>   NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO SING EVEN West Asian intrusions like

> Ghazals.

>   but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are stalwarts at both.

>   and Ghazals too.

>  

>   North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even doubted if he is  father of Astrology as

> his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I am not saying he is a Malyalee, sure

> there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI SHANKARA too is from there whose

> works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches profusely  quote him and without

> swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a breather for a hundred to max 200 yrs

> more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass production of Islamic pouuplation in

> India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as posible in a war  footing.

>  

>   TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the risk of being dubbed communal,

> obscuranist, so no one can save it.

>  

>   Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education system of  Maculay which we still

> have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our fathers barbarians and bastards and we

> mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

> and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church must enligthen India...!

>  

>   I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and masala here.

>   I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here itis just a  statemnt of what we

> see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives among them too.

>  

>  

> ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote:        Dear RR ji,

>  

>   no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

>  

>   sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman ayanamsa my dasha changes by 18

> months.

>   the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

>  

>   actually raman livd in south india and his location was much near to equator in comparison to

>   Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his calculations) so the diff is easily expected.

>  

>   my dob 19-07-1983

>   time:- 10.35 am

>   place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

>  

>   sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows rahu in 9th .

>  

>   i was always confused abt whom to follow.

>  

>   but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and if i consider true node then too my

>   chart changes.

>  

>   but as far as for Miss astro.

>  

>   i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because venus and ketu dont give much better

>   results as she is descibing.

>  

>   thanks and regards

>  

>   tarun

>  

>  

>  

>  

>   --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

>  

>   > Tarun ji,

>   > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last time!>

>   >

>   > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because ketu and venus

>   > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if using Raman

>   > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another conundrum!

>   >

>   > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same sign and

>   > house (9th)

>   >

>   > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in different signs :-

>   > )

>   >

>   > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us against yet

>   > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar jaaoon -- kidhar

>   > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

>   >

>   > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and comment on

>   > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true nodes?

>   >

>   > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes, isn't Jyotish

>   > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for lifetimes? How

>   > much work there is to be done, by so few sincerely interested

>   > individuals on this Jyotish Island! And yet some would rather keep

>   > griping and whining about problems that do not exists but only lie in

>   > their (mis)perception!

>   >

>   > RR

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>

>   > wrote:

>   > >

>   > > Hii ???

>   > >

>   > > well love happens when 5th lord is strong.

>   > > but first thing is that...frm which angle you find venus ketu

>   > combination in his chart.

>   > >

>   > > i m using lahiri ayanamsa to analyse.

>   > >

>   > > he is spiritual because guru is aspecting lagna even being worst in

>   > 7th house.

>   > >

>   > > currently his buddha dasha is commencing which is lord 3rd and 6th

>   > house.

>   > >

>   > > one more combination of moon+mercury is in his chart. and that too

>   > is a dobutful combination but

>   > > as moon is in amavasya then its effects are null.

>   > >

>   > > about love marriage...its impossible in his chart.as mars in 5th

>   > house so it wont make him to do

>   > > that.

>   > > 7th lord and 9th lord has exchange and that will surely make him to

>   > get in arrange marriage.

>   > >

>   > > i hope other astrologers will also guide my answers

>   > >

>   > > well he himself know abt the effects of 5th mars and 7th jupiter as

>   > per lal kitab.

>   > >

>   > > Thanks and Best Regards

>   > >

>   > > tarun.

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > --- miss_astro19 <miss_astro19> wrote:

>   > >

>

>   > > >  his chart

>   > > >

>   > > >  dob--- 26/11/1981

>   > > >  tob--- 16.08

>   > > >  pob--- ajmer

>   > > >

>   > > >  he is very very shy of girls, and with god blessings even being

>   > very

>   > > > smart and intelligent no girl has got attracted towards him to

>   > > > distract him, and tht too in this age where any boy can easily

>   > have a

>   > > > gf.

>   > > >

>   > > >   many astrologers told he will have a love marriage,but our

>   > guruji

>   > > > said tht his shukra his weakest, and jupiter in 7th wont allow

>   > him

>   > > > marriage wht to say abt love marriage.

>   > > >

>   > > >  he is an astrologer himself, and tht too very good one, u can

>   > view

>   > > > his posts on lalkitab group..

>   > > > 

>   > > >  his dreams come true, he saw many world happening much before

>   > they

>   > > > occured in his derams, like worl trade towers crashing, killing

>   > of

>   > > > abdul ghani loan, sunami etc.

> 

>   > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

>   > > > wrote:

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Hii,

>   > > > >

>   > > > > well i cant say about him. But this combination often shows the

>   > > > described things.

>   > > > >

>   > > > > can u provide his chart so tht other astrologers can find it

>   > out

>

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Dear Tarun

 

for the boderline cases, read bhava chalit too; or read the effects of the planets in terms of promixity to bhava madhaya. Your rahu / ketu at 29' and lagna at 2' makes the effect full..can be reflected in resultants from transit.

 

BTW, your rahu / mars and jup/ketu in D9 forming association; so read rahu's close influence on mars. Verify, if you have foreign involvement of works (either job, or trade etc).

 

Real challenge in your chart is for saturn, sun, rahu, ketu at bhava madhaya - giving unavoidable results (good or bad - either)- esp saturn in 2nd house and 12th lord sun in 11th house.

 

BTW venus is lacking desire (for debilitation), but in 12th house (kala purusha's exaltation) - it is generally good. See, if your foreign links is around creative works.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently on your shoulder.

 

 

>

> tarun_vst

> Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:19 +0100 (BST)

>

> Re: His Chart tarun!Re: ketu+ venus True/Mean? :ajiri/raman

> 1/6

>

> Dear Prashant ji

>  Thanks for your mail and proper guidence.

>  Sir in my view both are correct in their assumption. but Lahiri preside

> because he remained

>  president of natinal calender.

>  if we go in for deep study we must see the swiss ephermis because they

> have used latest equipments

>  for determination of planets position in respect of Equator.

>  I am not supporting western astrology because they are weak in

> pertaining the dasha system.

>  well i m still a newbie in astrology as i m running in saturn rahu

> period so its hard for me to

>  keep memory updated.

>  Thanks and Best Regards

>  Tarun

>  www.thevinayak.com

>  --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>  > Hi Tarun

>  >

>  >   Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between Bangalore

> where B V Raman LIVED 12

>  > DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u SAID is less

> than the min twice the

>  > distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the assumed

> difference

>  >

>  >   about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission who

> studied  just 37 villages and

>  > detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC setup,

> result,no socological or

>  > scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the ones listed

> get most and rest of

>  > really backward  suffer].

>  >

>  >   N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas present in

> the  country in 1956 as

>  > chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie at the

> most accepted, accurate one

>  > but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own may be a

> mean of all  33 systems

>  > around...!

>  >

>  >   this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on festivals were

> standardised it is better

>  > than no standard at all.

>  >

>  >   RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works prior to

> ramna  and his grandfather laud

>  > the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination precession

> of the Equinx at Zita

>  > Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools, caliculations.

>  >

>  >   Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is nothing

> but  revathi, Raman's is

>  > Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please test the same

> and find what works for u

>  > use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

>  >

>  >   again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem here

>  >

>  >   NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO SING EVEN

> West Asian intrusions like

>  > Ghazals.

>  >   but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are stalwarts

> at both.

>  >   and Ghazals too.

>  >

>  >   North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even doubted if he

> is  father of Astrology as

>  > his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I am not

> saying he is a Malyalee, sure

>  > there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI SHANKARA too

> is from there whose

>  > works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches profusely

> quote him and without

>  > swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a breather for

> a hundred to max 200 yrs

>  > more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass production of

> Islamic pouuplation in

>  > India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as posible in a

> war  footing.

>  >

>  >   TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the risk of being

> dubbed communal,

>  > obscuranist, so no one can save it.

>  >

>  >   Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education system of

> Maculay which we still

>  > have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our fathers

> barbarians and bastards and we

>  > mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

>  > and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church must

> enligthen India...!

>  >

>  >   I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and masala here.

>  >   I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here itis just

> a  statemnt of what we

>  > see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives among them

> too.

>  >

>  >

>  > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote:        Dear RR ji,

>  >

>  >   no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

>  >

>  >   sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman ayanamsa

> my dasha changes by 18

>  > months.

>  >   the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

>  >

>  >   actually raman livd in south india and his location was much near to

> equator in comparison to

>  >   Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his calculations) so the

> diff is easily expected.

>  >

>  >   my dob 19-07-1983

>  >   time:- 10.35 am

>  >   place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

>  >

>  >   sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows rahu in

> 9th .

>  >

>  >   i was always confused abt whom to follow.

>  >

>  >   but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and if i

> consider true node then too my

>  >   chart changes.

>  >

>  >   but as far as for Miss astro.

>  >

>  >   i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because venus and

> ketu dont give much better

>  >   results as she is descibing.

>  >

>  >   thanks and regards

>  >

>  >   tarun

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >

>  >   --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

>  >

>  >   > Tarun ji,

>  >   > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last time!>

>  >   >

>  >   > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because ketu and

> venus

>  >   > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if using

> Raman

>  >   > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another conundrum!

>  >   >

>  >   > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same sign and

>  >   > house (9th)

>  >   >

>  >   > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in different

> signs :-

>  >   > )

>  >   >

>  >   > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us against

> yet

>  >   > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar jaaoon --

> kidhar

>  >   > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

>  >   >

>  >   > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and comment on

>  >   > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true nodes?

>  >   >

>  >   > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes, isn't

> Jyotish

>  >   > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for lifetimes?

> How

>  >   > much work there is to be done, by so few sincerely interested

>  >   > individuals on this Jyotish Island! And yet some would rather keep

>  >   > griping and whining about problems that do not exists but only lie

> in

>  >   > their (mis)perception!

>  >   >

>  >   > RR

>  >   >

>  >   >

>  >   >

>  >   > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst>

>  >   > wrote:

>  >   > >

>  >   > > Hii ???

>  >   > >

>  >   > > well love happens when 5th lord is strong.

>  >   > > but first thing is that...frm which angle you find venus ketu

>  >   > combination in his chart.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > i m using lahiri ayanamsa to analyse.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > he is spiritual because guru is aspecting lagna even being worst

> in

>  >   > 7th house.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > currently his buddha dasha is commencing which is lord 3rd and

> 6th

>  >   > house.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > one more combination of moon+mercury is in his chart. and that

> too

>  >   > is a dobutful combination but

>  >   > > as moon is in amavasya then its effects are null.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > about love marriage...its impossible in his chart.as mars in 5th

>  >   > house so it wont make him to do

>  >   > > that.

>  >   > > 7th lord and 9th lord has exchange and that will surely make him

> to

>  >   > get in arrange marriage.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > i hope other astrologers will also guide my answers

>  >   > >

>  >   > > well he himself know abt the effects of 5th mars and 7th jupiter

> as

>  >   > per lal kitab.

>  >   > >

>  >   > > Thanks and Best Regards

>  >   > >

>  >   > > tarun.

>  >   > >

>  >   > >

>  >   > > --- miss_astro19 <miss_astro19> wrote:

>  >   > >

>  >

>  >   > > >  his chart

>  >   > > >

>  >   > > >  dob--- 26/11/1981

>  >   > > >  tob--- 16.08

>  >   > > >  pob--- ajmer

>  >   > > >

>  >   > > >  he is very very shy of girls, and with god blessings even

> being

>  >   > very

>  >   > > > smart and intelligent no girl has got attracted towards him to

>  >   > > > distract him, and tht too in this age where any boy can easily

>  >   > have a

>  >   > > > gf.

>  >   > > >

>  >   > > >   many astrologers told he will have a love marriage,but our

>  >   > guruji

>  >   > > > said tht his shukra his weakest, and jupiter in 7th wont allow

>  >   > him

>  >   > > > marriage wht to say abt love marriage.

>  >   > > >

>  >   > > >  he is an astrologer himself, and tht too very good one, u can

>  >   > view

>  >   > > > his posts on lalkitab group..

>  >   > > >

>  >   > > >  his dreams come true, he saw many world happening much before

>  >   > they

>  >   > > > occured in his derams, like worl trade towers crashing,

> killing

>  >   > of

>  >   > > > abdul ghani loan, sunami etc.

>  >

>  >   > > > , ~~Tarun~~

> <tarun_vst@>

>  >   > > > wrote:

>  >   > > > >

>  >   > > > > Hii,

>  >   > > > >

>  >   > > > > well i cant say about him. But this combination often shows

> the

>  >   > > > described things.

>  >   > > > >

>  >   > > > > can u provide his chart so tht other astrologers can find it

>  >   > out

>  >

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Dear Tarun

 

I stay away from predictive astrology..

 

yes, saturn being lord of 5th and 6th in 2nd house with moon (11th lord)..and lord of 12th sun in 11th house (under aspect of sun). Technically, there is association of 6th lord and 12th lord ..sort of VRY (- plus - = +); Yet, this gives challenges.

 

associaton of 11th lord and 6th lord gives health issues as well, esp in 2nd house.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently on your shoulder.

 

 

>

> tarun_vst

> Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:05:44 +0100 (BST)

>

> prafulla ji--JR] ketu+ venus True/Mean? :ajiri/raman 1/6

>

> Sir , basically im civil engg. i wished to study more but some problems

> didnt allowed me.

>  abt profession or foregin connections...right now i dont have any such.

>  but now i m trying to enter in exports business with my brother.

>  he is having a sound business in furniture and jewelry exports. and as

> my 9th lord and 2nd lord in

>  12th house so i am also trying to get in exports only.

>  as i have mercury in 11th house so i am unable to have one fixed job or

> work..lot of changes

>  happens in my work.

>  Sir what are the expect results of saturn in 2nd and sun in 11th house

> ??

>  i tried to explore it much but didnt find any right answer.

>  Thanks and Best Regards

>  Tarun

>  www.thevinayak.com

>  --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

>  > Dear Tarun

>  >

>  > for the boderline cases, read bhava chalit too; or read the effects of

> the planets in terms of

>  > promixity to bhava madhaya. Your rahu / ketu at 29' and lagna at 2'

> makes the effect full..can

>  > be reflected in resultants from transit.

>  >

>  > BTW, your rahu / mars and jup/ketu in D9 forming association; so read

> rahu's close influence on

>  > mars. Verify, if you have foreign involvement of works (either job, or

> trade etc).

>  >

>  > Real challenge in your chart is for saturn, sun, rahu, ketu at bhava

> madhaya - giving

>  > unavoidable results (good or bad - either)- esp saturn in 2nd house

> and 12th lord sun in 11th

>  > house.

>  >

>  > BTW venus is lacking desire (for debilitation), but in 12th house

> (kala purusha's exaltation) -

>  > it is generally good. See, if your foreign links is around creative

> works.

>  >

>  > regards / Prafulla Gang

>  >

>  > Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will

> elude you, if you capture

>  > it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on

> other things, it might just

>  > come and sit gently on your shoulder.

>  >

>  >

>  > >

>  > > tarun_vst

>  > > Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:19 +0100 (BST)

>  > >

>  > > Re: His Chart tarun!Re: ketu+ venus True/Mean?

> :ajiri/raman

>  > > 1/6

>  > >

>  > > Dear Prashant ji

>  > >  Thanks for your mail and proper guidence.

>  > >  Sir in my view both are correct in their assumption. but Lahiri

> preside

>  > > because he remained

>  > >  president of natinal calender.

>  > >  if we go in for deep study we must see the swiss ephermis because

> they

>  > > have used latest equipments

>  > >  for determination of planets position in respect of Equator.

>  > >  I am not supporting western astrology because they are weak in

>  > > pertaining the dasha system.

>  > >  well i m still a newbie in astrology as i m running in saturn rahu

>  > > period so its hard for me to

>  > >  keep memory updated.

>  > >  Thanks and Best Regards

>  > >  Tarun

>  > >  www.thevinayak.com

>  > >  --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>  > >  > Hi Tarun

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between

> Bangalore

>  > > where B V Raman LIVED 12

>  > >  > DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u SAID is

> less

>  > > than the min twice the

>  > >  > distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the assumed

>  > > difference

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission who

>  > > studied  just 37 villages and

>  > >  > detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC setup,

>  > > result,no socological or

>  > >  > scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the ones

> listed

>  > > get most and rest of

>  > >  > really backward  suffer].

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas present

> in

>  > > the  country in 1956 as

>  > >  > chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie at

> the

>  > > most accepted, accurate one

>  > >  > but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own may be

> a

>  > > mean of all  33 systems

>  > >  > around...!

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on festivals

> were

>  > > standardised it is better

>  > >  > than no standard at all.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works prior to

>  > > ramna  and his grandfather laud

>  > >  > the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination

> precession

>  > > of the Equinx at Zita

>  > >  > Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools, caliculations.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is

> nothing

>  > > but  revathi, Raman's is

>  > >  > Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please test the

> same

>  > > and find what works for u

>  > >  > use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem here

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO SING

> EVEN

>  > > West Asian intrusions like

>  > >  > Ghazals.

>  > >  >   but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are

> stalwarts

>  > > at both.

>  > >  >   and Ghazals too.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even doubted

> if he

>  > > is  father of Astrology as

>  > >  > his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I am not

>  > > saying he is a Malyalee, sure

>  > >  > there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI

> SHANKARA too

>  > > is from there whose

>  > >  > works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches

> profusely

>  > > quote him and without

>  > >  > swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a

> breather for

>  > > a hundred to max 200 yrs

>  > >  > more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass

> production of

>  > > Islamic pouuplation in

>  > >  > India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as posible in

> a

>  > > war  footing.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the risk of

> being

>  > > dubbed communal,

>  > >  > obscuranist, so no one can save it.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education

> system of

>  > > Maculay which we still

>  > >  > have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our fathers

>  > > barbarians and bastards and we

>  > >  > mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

>  > >  > and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church must

>  > > enligthen India...!

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and masala

> here.

>  > >  >   I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here itis

> just

>  > > a  statemnt of what we

>  > >  > see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives among

> them

>  > > too.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >

>  > >  > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote:        Dear RR ji,

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman

> ayanamsa

>  > > my dasha changes by 18

>  > >  > months.

>  > >  >   the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   actually raman livd in south india and his location was much

> near to

>  > > equator in comparison to

>  > >  >   Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his calculations)

> so the

>  > > diff is easily expected.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   my dob 19-07-1983

>  > >  >   time:- 10.35 am

>  > >  >   place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows rahu

> in

>  > > 9th .

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   i was always confused abt whom to follow.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and if i

>  > > consider true node then too my

>  > >  >   chart changes.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   but as far as for Miss astro.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because venus

> and

>  > > ketu dont give much better

>  > >  >   results as she is descibing.

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   thanks and regards

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   tarun

>  > >  >

>  > >  >

>  > >  >

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

>  > >  >

>  > >  >   > Tarun ji,

>  > >  >   > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last time!>

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because ketu and

>  > > venus

>  > >  >   > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if using

>  > > Raman

>  > >  >   > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another conundrum!

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same sign

> and

>  > >  >   > house (9th)

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in different

>  > > signs :-

>  > >  >   > )

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us

> against

>  > > yet

>  > >  >   > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar jaaoon --

>  > > kidhar

>  > >  >   > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and

> comment on

>  > >  >   > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true nodes?

>  > >  >   >

>  > >  >   > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes, isn't

>  > > Jyotish

>  > >  >   > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for

> lifetimes?

>  >

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Dear Mr kumar

 

In fact, I am puzzled with text formating issue. My mail editor, allows me to post in html format, but list does not permit it; so I need to write it in text mode. When, I reply the mail, I do not meddle with the original format; and on my editor, I am facing scrolling problem. Since, i use, web based mail only (for virus threats and spam management), this is compounded.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently on your shoulder.

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:49:11 -0700 (PDT)

>

> RE: prafulla ji--JR] ketu+ venus True/Mean? Lahiri/raman

> 1/6

>

> Prafulla,

>    pl do cover on astro reads as u did now, whatver gap was there is fine

> from ur past readings

>    Now one poitn i wanted to ask all ur posts PAN across over 100

> characters of text doenst break into the next line so we r forced  to

> move to the right any clue? it is with your posts only rrest  break to

> next line are u using notepad without word wrap? to compile  and then

> paste here?

>    if so set word wrap on in note pad and try.

>  Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:        Dear Tarun

>    I stay away from predictive astrology..

>  yes, saturn being lord of 5th and 6th in 2nd house with moon (11th

> lord)..and lord of 12th sun in 11th house (under aspect of sun).

> Technically, there is association of 6th lord and 12th lord ..sort of

> VRY (- plus - = +); Yet, this gives challenges.

>    associaton of 11th lord and 6th lord gives health issues as well, esp

> in 2nd house.

>    regards / Prafulla Gang

>    Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it

> will  elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it,

> but  if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit

> gently  on your shoulder.

>    >

>    > tarun_vst

>    > Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:05:44 +0100 (BST)

>    >

>    > prafulla ji--JR] ketu+ venus True/Mean? :ajiri/raman

> 1/6

>    >

>    > Sir , basically im civil engg. i wished to study more but some

> problems

>    > didnt allowed me.

>    >  abt profession or foregin connections...right now i dont have any

> such.

>    >  but now i m trying to enter in exports business with my brother.

>    >  he is having a sound business in furniture and jewelry exports. and

> as

>    > my 9th lord and 2nd lord in

>    >  12th house so i am also trying to get in exports only.

>    >  as i have mercury in 11th house so i am unable to have one fixed

> job or

>    > work..lot of changes

>    >  happens in my work.

>    >  Sir what are the expect results of saturn in 2nd and sun in 11th

> house

>    > ??

>    >  i tried to explore it much but didnt find any right answer.

>    >  Thanks and Best Regards

>    >  Tarun

>    >  www.thevinayak.com

>    >  --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

>    >  > Dear Tarun

>    >  >

>    >  > for the boderline cases, read bhava chalit too; or read the

> effects of

>    > the planets in terms of

>    >  > promixity to bhava madhaya. Your rahu / ketu at 29' and lagna at

> 2'

>    > makes the effect full..can

>    >  > be reflected in resultants from transit.

>    >  >

>    >  > BTW, your rahu / mars and jup/ketu in D9 forming association; so

> read

>    > rahu's close influence on

>    >  > mars. Verify, if you have foreign involvement of works (either

> job, or

>    > trade etc).

>    >  >

>    >  > Real challenge in your chart is for saturn, sun, rahu, ketu at

> bhava

>    > madhaya - giving

>    >  > unavoidable results (good or bad - either)- esp saturn in 2nd

> house

>    > and 12th lord sun in 11th

>    >  > house.

>    >  >

>    >  > BTW venus is lacking desire (for debilitation), but in 12th house

>    > (kala purusha's exaltation) -

>    >  > it is generally good. See, if your foreign links is around

> creative

>    > works.

>    >  >

>    >  > regards / Prafulla Gang

>    >  >

>    >  > Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it

> will

>    > elude you, if you capture

>    >  > it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind

> on

>    > other things, it might just

>    >  > come and sit gently on your shoulder.

>    >  >

>    >  >

>    >  > >

>    >  > > tarun_vst

>    >  > > Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:28:19 +0100 (BST)

>    >  > >

>    >  > > Re: His Chart tarun!Re: ketu+ venus True/Mean?

>    > :ajiri/raman

>    >  > > 1/6

>    >  > >

>    >  > > Dear Prashant ji

>    >  > >  Thanks for your mail and proper guidence.

>    >  > >  Sir in my view both are correct in their assumption. but

> Lahiri

>    > preside

>    >  > > because he remained

>    >  > >  president of natinal calender.

>    >  > >  if we go in for deep study we must see the swiss ephermis

> because

>    > they

>    >  > > have used latest equipments

>    >  > >  for determination of planets position in respect of Equator.

>    >  > >  I am not supporting western astrology because they are weak in

>    >  > > pertaining the dasha system.

>    >  > >  well i m still a newbie in astrology as i m running in saturn

> rahu

>    >  > > period so its hard for me to

>    >  > >  keep memory updated.

>    >  > >  Thanks and Best Regards

>    >  > >  Tarun

>    >  > >  www.thevinayak.com

>    >  > >  --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>    >  > >  > Hi Tarun

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   Raman, Lahiri did not live too far, the distance between

>    > Bangalore

>    >  > > where B V Raman LIVED 12

>    >  > >  > DEG 59' N.  and Lahiri in UP-Varanasi is  18 deg 52' as u

> SAID is

>    > less

>    >  > > than the min twice the

>    >  > >  > distance to the  Equator. so there is no basis for the

> assumed

>    >  > > difference

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   about the ayanamsa debate it is like the MANDAL commission

> who

>    >  > > studied  just 37 villages and

>    >  > >  > detirmined the OBC strata of India itself an an AD  HOC

> setup,

>    >  > > result,no socological or

>    >  > >  > scientific basis to study [and has  hurt them most as the

> ones

>    > listed

>    >  > > get most and rest of

>    >  > >  > really backward  suffer].

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   N C Lahiri was supposed to preside over 33 Panchangas

> present

>    > in

>    >  > > the  country in 1956 as

>    >  > >  > chairman of National Calander  review  committee,  to arrvie

> at

>    > the

>    >  > > most accepted, accurate one

>    >  > >  > but was  NOT COMPETITENT, PERTIET enough so set up his own

> may be

>    > a

>    >  > > mean of all  33 systems

>    >  > >  > around...!

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   this was to facilitate a National holiday policy on

> festivals

>    > were

>    >  > > standardised it is better

>    >  > >  > than no standard at all.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   RAMANS' is one of the 33 and many older western works

> prior to

>    >  > > ramna  and his grandfather laud

>    >  > >  > the ancient Indian sages for their  accurate  detirmination

>    > precession

>    >  > > of the Equinx at Zita

>    >  > >  > Piscum.  without the aid of much of modern tools,

> caliculations.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   Wheel of lie is one written in 18th century.zita Piscum is

>    > nothing

>    >  > > but  revathi, Raman's is

>    >  > >  > Revathi Paksha and Lahiri's is chaitra Paksha so  please

> test the

>    > same

>    >  > > and find what works for u

>    >  > >  > use min 3 levels of dasa  to study disspassionately.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   again the North/ south debate is also part of the problem

> here

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   NO MUSICIAN IN NORTH SINGS, CARNATIC MUSIC BUT PREFERS TO

> SING

>    > EVEN

>    >  > > West Asian intrusions like

>    >  > >  > Ghazals.

>    >  > >  >   but South Indians do sing Hindustani several of them are

>    > stalwarts

>    >  > > at both.

>    >  > >  >   and Ghazals too.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   North has disowned and discredited Parashara and even

> doubted

>    > if he

>    >  > > is  father of Astrology as

>    >  > >  > his origins seem to be from the present state of  Kerala I

> am not

>    >  > > saying he is a Malyalee, sure

>    >  > >  > there r many scholars  even now of sanskrit there and ADI

>    > SHANKARA too

>    >  > > is from there whose

>    >  > >  > works had inspired Swami Vivelaananda most all his speeches

>    > profusely

>    >  > > quote him and without

>    >  > >  > swami vivekananda there is no Hinduism, it has  managed a

>    > breather for

>    >  > > a hundred to max 200 yrs

>    >  > >  > more is due to him and  is also Due die anyway. the mass

>    > production of

>    >  > > Islamic pouuplation in

>    >  > >  > India and the Church also converting as many OBC's as

> posible in

>    > a

>    >  > > war  footing.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   TODAY IF YOU TALK OF HINDUISM or its casue you run the

> risk of

>    > being

>    >  > > dubbed communal,

>    >  > >  > obscuranist, so no one can save it.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   Again As swami Vivekananda [he said of the then education

>    > system of

>    >  > > Maculay which we still

>    >  > >  > have] we are taught that our foregthers were  apes, our

> fathers

>    >  > > barbarians and bastards and we

>    >  > >  > mean, primitive  people. [Hindus of course]

>    >  > >  > and the last 2 popes do make every point to say the church

> must

>    >  > > enligthen India...!

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   I am sorry for the length here as had to mix astro and

> masala

>    > here.

>    >  > >  >   I DON'T INTEND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF ANY RELIGION here

> itis

>    > just

>    >  > > a  statemnt of what we

>    >  > >  > see and no personal bias I have good friends,  relatives

> among

>    > them

>    >  > > too.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst >  wrote:        Dear RR ji,

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   no problem at all. you are very senior to me.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   sir even in my chart i have the same prob.. if i use raman

>    > ayanamsa

>    >  > > my dasha changes by 18

>    >  > >  > months.

>    >  > >  >   the rahu placement in my chart also changes.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   actually raman livd in south india and his location was

> much

>    > near to

>    >  > > equator in comparison to

>    >  > >  >   Kashi viswanath (base frm where Lahiri gave his

> calculations)

>    > so the

>    >  > > diff is easily expected.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   my dob 19-07-1983

>    >  > >  >   time:- 10.35 am

>    >  > >  >   place:- Jodhpur Rajasthan

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   sir one shows mars rahu combination in 10th and one shows

> rahu

>    > in

>    >  > > 9th .

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   i was always confused abt whom to follow.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   but if we consider mean node then too my chart changes and

> if i

>    >  > > consider true node then too my

>    >  > >  >   chart changes..

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   but as far as for Miss astro.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   i wil say venus ketu combination is not matching .because

> venus

>    > and

>    >  > > ketu dont give much better

>    >  > >  >   results as she is descibing.

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   thanks and regards

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   tarun

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   --- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

>    >  > >  >

>    >  > >  >   > Tarun ji,

>    >  > >  >   > <my apologies for mistyping your name as Varun last

> time!>

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > This is a very interesting situation indeed, because

> ketu and

>    >  > > venus

>    >  > >  >   > though in different signs are hardly 3 degrees apart if

> using

>    >  > > Raman

>    >  > >  >   > ayanamsha, but if using Lahiri we run into another

> conundrum!

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > If you are using true nodes, ketu and venus are in same

> sign

>    > and

>    >  > >  >   > house (9th)

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > BUT, if one is using mean nodes,then the two are in

> different

>    >  > > signs :-

>    >  > >  >   > )

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > Thanks Miss Astro for sharing this chart that brings us

>    > against

>    >  > > yet

>    >  > >  >   > another wall in Jyotish -- "idhar jaaoon yaa udhar

> jaaoon --

>    >  > > kidhar

>    >  > >  >   > jaoon?" as some poet said! :-)

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > I am assuming that since you did not react strongly and

>    > comment on

>    >  > >  >   > the two being in different sign, that you utilize true

> nodes?

>    >  > >  >   >

>    >  > >  >   > Ayanamsha, equal vs unequal houses, mean vs true nodes,

> isn't

>    >  > > Jyotish

>    >  > >  >   > rich with material that will keep us all engaged for

>    > lifetimes?

>    >  >

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