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Ammachi, Prajna - Brianna <prajnaji>

wrote:

>

> Bhajan is the focus of my sadhana, but for me the

> deepest point of connection is the silence between bhajans.

> But it is true that what enables each of us to transcend

> is unique to that individual.

>   

>   Again, I would refer anyone with questions about

> their personal sadhana to Amma herself.

> And how fortunate we are that she is so near!

>   

>   love,

>   

>   Prajna

> >>>>>

 

All Good Points; especially about silence between bhajans Q!

 

Here is what Amma says:

After medicine is injected, it takes some time before it spreads

throughout the body. In the same way, after doing spiritual

practices, one should spend some time in silence. If one starts

talking of worldly things after two hours of meditation, even five

years of meditation will be useless. - Ammachi, For My Children, 

p109

 

Silence and Love ! cannot get away from this teaching of Amma !

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Please, Amarnath, make an effort to UNDERSTAND the placement of Amma's

or any other spiritual teaching.   What they do at the ashram, from my

understanding, and what's good in general after a period of meditating

is to lie in corpse pose to let the blood circulate evenly throughout

the body.

 

This is not the same as what you're quoting below.   The Beneficial

Effect of silence (non-talking) between bhajans is something more

adhered to by SSB bhajan-satsangs.   They use the Akhanda (without

breaks/division) format, so that everyone can maintain their

concentration gained by the bhajan singing (another song starts

immeditately after one ends).  

 

When I led Ammachi satsangs, I used the same format, but relaxed a

little to include a mini-pause to ask if anyone else wanted to sing

(the strict SSB format can lead to anxiety).    In later years when I

attended and sang, I'd automatically start singing another song if the

pause was too long, which quickly woke others up, because they thought

I was trying to hog-time, and they were quick to start singing

themselves.

 

Another technique of maintaining concentration through the principle of

Akhanda is to sing with a drone note, and more importantly, for the

lead singer to hold over the end of a line until the group joins in (if

the song allows).  Also effective for Archana chanting in a group

(slight pause between lead and group, slowly overlapping, so that group

starts in with response when lead says "Namaha".

 

I've been to some guru's satsangs where there's all kinds of talking

betweem songs or commentary on the song just sung...   yuck!

 

tom

 

Ammachi, "amarnath" <anatol_zinc> wrote:

>

>

> All Good Points; especially about silence between bhajans Q!

>

> Here is what Amma says:

> After medicine is injected, it takes some time before it spreads

> throughout the body. In the same way, after doing spiritual

> practices, one should spend some time in silence. If one starts

> talking of worldly things after two hours of meditation, even five

> years of meditation will be useless. - Ammachi, For My Children, 

> p109

>

> Silence and Love ! cannot get away from this teaching of Amma !

>

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Satya Sai Baba

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  Max Dashu

  Ammachi

  Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:36 PM

  Re: Q about I => silence between bhajans

 

 

  >  The Beneficial Effect of silence (non-talking) between bhajans is

  >something more

  >adhered to by SSB bhajan-satsangs.

 

  What is SSB?

 

  Max

  --

  Max Dashu

 

  Art in Goddess Reverence

  http://www.maxdashu.net

 

 

 

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Dear Thomas,

 

Sorry that you felt my quote of Amma was inappropriate somehow. The

point you were making was unclear to me and I do not wish to judge

it one way or another. The only thing I can do is clarify a little

what my opinion is; your opinion may be different; each of us(

everyone ) is entitled to our opinions; some of our opinions may be

useful to others is why we are sharing I assume.

 

To clarify my opinion: I know that innocently noticing Silence

between bhajans and deliberately resting and/or keeping silent after

spiritual practices are different situations; yet the common thread

is Silence and worth pointing out especially with Amma's Aphorism.

 

The reason I feel Amma's Aphorism was significant to mention is that

some may not be aware of the significance of resting and/or keeping

silence after some spiritual practices and this may be difficult in

our busy daily lives but not impossible.

 

Further, IMHO, Silence cannot be confined by rules of any kind. Of

course, let everyone follow the guidelines of their spiritual

practices with all Love and Awareness as best they can. But, it

seems to be the experience of many that Silence will come of it's

own accord even unexpectantly ~ even in the MIDDLE of a dynamic

bhajan; and it would be foolish not to surrender to it.

 

God is One but has many names some are Silence, Awareness, Love. In

Sanskrit and Vedic culture, the common trio is Sat-Chit-Ananda(

existence, consciousness, bliss ) but perhaps in our present

American culture Silence-Awareness-Love is a little easier to grasp

and talk about. When Amma was asked what Her religion is, Her answer

was Love( not Ananda ) and when we read "Awaken Children" there are

many examples of interconnectedness  between Silence-Awareness-Love.

In most recent issue of Matruvani, Amma makes the point that

spiritual language( including scriptures ) needs to be flexible and

updated according to the times and culture.

 

My simple view( just my opinion) is that Silence is God resting(

Unmanifest); Love is God flowing( manifesting); and Awareness is God

Awake to both. Love-Silence-Awareness perhaps works best for me; by

loving silence and awareness, we act lovingly to everyone,

everything.

 

If you wish to share you view of God in words, please do so. 

Thanks for listening.

 

Amma Bless,

amarnath

 

Ammachi, "Tom" <tomgull> wrote:

>

> Please, Amarnath, make an effort to UNDERSTAND the placement of

Amma's

> or any other spiritual teaching.   What they do at the ashram,

from my

> understanding, and what's good in general after a period of

meditating

> is to lie in corpse pose to let the blood circulate evenly

throughout

> the body.

>

> This is not the same as what you're quoting below.   The

Beneficial

> Effect of silence (non-talking) between bhajans is something more

> adhered to by SSB bhajan-satsangs.  .....> tom

>

> Ammachi, "amarnath" <anatol_zinc@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > All Good Points; especially about silence between bhajans Q!

> >

> > Here is what Amma says:

> > After medicine is injected, it takes some time before it spreads

> > throughout the body. In the same way, after doing spiritual

> > practices, one should spend some time in silence. If one starts

> > talking of worldly things after two hours of meditation, even

five

> > years of meditation will be useless. - Ammachi, For My

Children, 

> > p109

> >

> > Silence and Love ! cannot get away from this teaching of Amma !

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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