For the REAL Record

[Guest guest]

RECAP: THAT LADY WAS NOT "DYING" IN THE PRISON. (LANGUISHING, YES. DYING,

NO.) BELIEVE ME, SHE WAS GETTING MORE FACILITIES IN THAT PRISON THAN ANYONE

ELSE. PROBABLY MORE THAN SHE HAD WHEN SHE WAS "FREE", EXCEPT THAT SHE WAS

NOT FREE. THE ONLY TIME SHE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL WAS TO GET STITCHES ON HER

HEAD AS OF THE RESULT OF AN EPILECTIC FIT, NOT BECAUSE OF SOMEONE'S

AGRESSION. THE OTHER TIME SHE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL WAS AS A RESULT OF HER

OWN AGRESSION (VERIFIED BY THE AUSTRALIAN EMBASSY REPRESENTATIVE).

 

Re: Subodh and Prabhupadacarya prabhus' reply to Bhima das:

Are we using the Free Forum for personal contentions and dirty fighting

here? I've heard that Ramakanta prabhu bans such things. Keep it clean,

guys.

 

Hare Krishna. Your servant, Parvati devi dasi

 

 

 

> >Bhima (das) wrote:

> >> For The Record

>

> >We owe a vote of thanks to our God-sister Parvati for the real record.

>

>

>

> >Also I would like to personaly thank you Parvati for giving the real

> >sauce to those whose only business is to create upheaval in our Vrindavan

> >temple.

>

> The delegation Parvati gave the sauce to was the delegation I formed to

> help a devotee who we witnessed was dying in jail. No one on our

> delegation has any involvement in an upheaval in Vrindavan temple. I

> select sincere senior devotees who I have known for more than five years

> as credible, knowledgeable,compassionate and honest persons with the rare

> quality of integrity, who have been serving in ISKCON for nearly 20 years

> each.

>

> >Prabhupadacarya wrote:

>

> >> For the Record

>

> >I think that if we are to get a clear picture of what went on with this

> >Mataji from Australia we would need to hear from Devakinandan Prabhu.

>

> >I had not heard of Prabhupadacarya until his name appeared around the

> >time of the unfortunate problem with Mahamantra. It appears that

> >Prabhupacarya has a history of being out spoken about things he has

> >little knowledge of. Again now Prabhupacarya without understanding the

> >real situation is making his judgemental comments. So, we sort of see a

> >pattern here in Pa's behavior.

>

> >I request those devotees who have seen this message and are concerned

> >about what really happened in this situation please write to Devakinandan

> >the temple president of Vrindavan.

>

> >Devakinandan sacrificed tremendously to come from Mumbai and help in

> >Vrindavan on the request of the Gbc body. It is not easy to manage in

> >Vrindavan still Devakinandan worked hard and at the same time continued

> >his service in Mumbai.

>

> >You should also know that Subodh has been illegally occupying the

> >Vrindavan Temple restaurant and is fighting in the court. Subhod has made

> >changes in the restaurant which is illegal to do without permission.

> >However, worse then that he is not even paying the fixed rent which is

> >only $550 per month to the Deities who own the restaurant.

>

> THe amazing here is that what you just admonished Prabhupadacarya Prabhu

> for you have just now done against me. You said "Speaking out about things

> you have little knowledge of without understanding the real situation and

> making judgemental comments." I find this very hypocritical and libelous

> and request you to please immediately retract these erroneous statements.

>

> The fact is that I am the legal tennant of the restaurant and have two

> court orders to prove that. I am also not fighting any legal cases against

> ISKCON. The court decision favoring the legality of the written contract I

> have with ISKCON was made during the court case filed by Ghanshyam against

> ISKCON, I have never filed a case against ISKCON and never plan to do so

> please don't force me in that situation by libel statements that are sure

> to cause interruption in the patronage of Govindas.

>

> I have a 5 year contract with ISKCON to operate the restaurant and am not

> required thereunder to pay any rent to ISKCON until my investment is

> recouped, rather ISKCON was to repay me Rs. 25,000 per month according to

> our written agreement, and I have not received even one of those payments

> to date.Yet I have made several payments not required under contractual

> obligation to the temple,despite the fact that I was not making any

> profits in order to help support the temple.So far I have invested a huge

> sum of laxmi in the restaurant and not in a position to simply walk away

> from all this simply due to a change in temple administration who want to

> undo the agreement I entered with previous administration.When the new

> administration came I continued to pay the temple but they refused to give

> me a receipt for my last payment even after having promising and there is

> where it stands today.I am waiting for my receipt so that I can make my

> next payment.Bhima Prabhu please ask Devakinandan Prabhu as to why is he

> being so unreasonable in not accepting the laxmi in the usual fashion by

> issuing me a rent receipt as was being done by previous management in good

> faith.

>

> Regarding the changes mentioned above, there were no unauthorized changes

> made by me. Perhaps you are misinformed about this. Have you even stepped

> foot into the restaurant personally in the last 1 year or so? I wonder how

> you can claim this.I think you are confusing the fact that we have

> upgraded some of the old fixtures that made the restaurant look old and

> dingy and whatever we did it has been with written consent of the new

> management.

>

> I have always indicated my willingness to mediate our differences in the

> past and after speaking with Bhima Prabhu I am always willing to cooperate

> in a just manner where all parties are satisfied.We had several mediation

> sessions earlier where considerable headway was made with the help of

> Prabhupada Acharya and Braj Bihari Das,who helped us reach an agreement to

> not file any further suits against one another.I preserved my word of

> honor but they violated the agreement and filed a suit against

> me.Mediation has a value when you deal with persons having enough

> integrity to keep their words.Despite this failure on the part of

> Vrindavan Management I am willing to give mediation another try with any

> other authority of integrity who can legally represent ISKCON Vrindavan.

>

> Thanks and waiting for appropriate response

>

> Your humble servant

> Subodh