Interpretation of Navamsha (Kindly Clarify Further)

[Guest guest]

Dear Rafal-Ji, Namazkar and many thanks for your clarification.

 

I have no doubts about the utility of Vargas.

What is eluding me is when we get contradictory indications in the

Rashi and the corresponding Varga.

As an example: Let's assume, 7H is strong in Rashi, e.g. benefic 7L

is well placed with good avastha, with no afflictions to 7H or 7L,

while in the Navamsha the situation is the opposite; e.g. 7L is

debilitated, badly placed and afflicted. The question is, what would

be the corresponding indication. Probably the influences on

relationships will be mixed, but how does the strength in the Rashi

and that in the Navamsha play out. What would be the case, if the

reverse was the case, e.g. 7H was strong in Navamsha but weak in

Rashi.

 

A parallel issue comes up, when a Graha is strong in Rashi but weak

in Navamsha. How would this play out when the dasha of this Graha

comes?

 

I will be obliged if you can kindly clarify further.

 

With deep respects, Gilbert.

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme> wrote:

>

> Dear Gilbert,

>

> I dont know exactly what You mean by saying relatioship is strong.

>

> Yes..the navamsa is very accurate chart for this matter, it will

tell us about inherent and independent from our view characteristics

of person which we treat seriously. But You must always be careful

which relationship You are analyzing, considering planets in seventh

house while being on second relationship is mistaken approach.

>

> Debilitation usually lmeans lack or negativity of quality of mood

represented by Graha, it can mean service-attitude for example.

>

> Upapada in Rasi will tell us the external manifestation which is

revealed for us - how we see the partner.

>

> Trikona to seventh house in navamsa will tell us about abilities

of first spouse, You can treat the seventh house as Lagna and read

chart accordingly.

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

[Guest guest]

vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Gilbert,

comments below.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"gilbert_benny_hadley" <gilbert_benny_hadley >

<>

Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:25 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Interpretation of Navamsha (Kindly Clarify Further)

 

 

Dear Rafal-Ji, Namazkar and many thanks for your clarification.

 

I have no doubts about the utility of Vargas.

What is eluding me is when we get contradictory indications in the

Rashi and the corresponding Varga.

[Rafal] This problem to be solve needs three things:

1. Theoretical definitions and awarness of difference between Vargas, Bhavas, Arudha's.

2. Contemplation & Meditation about how this is seen in real-life.

3. Examples to confirm and learn

 

As an example: Let's assume, 7H is strong in Rashi, e.g. benefic 7L

is well placed with good avastha, with no afflictions to 7H or 7L,

while in the Navamsha the situation is the opposite; e.g. 7L is

debilitated, badly placed and afflicted. The question is, what would

be the corresponding indication. Probably the influences on

relationships will be mixed, but how does the strength in the Rashi

and that in the Navamsha play out. What would be the case, if the

reverse was the case, e.g. 7H was strong in Navamsha but weak in

Rashi.

[Rafal]

Rasi is about attitude (kendra bhava) and Navamsa is real partner. You can hear audio given by Sanjay on Atri-class about Vivaha. If Rahu is in Rasi 7 then You has awful attitude but get qualified and controlled spouse with Guru in 7 Navamsa. Debilitation I take mainly in Rasi to see poor background (lording UL) or health problem (2 from UL). Do some chart reading and see how it work - take the experience.

 

A parallel issue comes up, when a Graha is strong in Rashi but weak

in Navamsha. How would this play out when the dasha of this Graha

comes?

[Rafal] Deva Keralam and Sarwartha Cintamani says that Navamsa exaltation can give king while Exaltation in Rasi can mean nothing if Navamsa is debilitated so the bhagya is of utmost importance. Usually the dasa starts well but give no result (phala=bhagya).

 

I will be obliged if you can kindly clarify further.

 

With deep respects, Gilbert.

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> Dear Gilbert,

>

> I dont know exactly what You mean by saying relatioship is strong.

>

> Yes..the navamsa is very accurate chart for this matter, it will

tell us about inherent and independent from our view characteristics

of person which we treat seriously. But You must always be careful

which relationship You are analyzing, considering planets in seventh

house while being on second relationship is mistaken approach.

>

> Debilitation usually lmeans lack or negativity of quality of mood

represented by Graha, it can mean service-attitude for example.

>

> Upapada in Rasi will tell us the external manifestation which is

revealed for us - how we see the partner.

>

> Trikona to seventh house in navamsa will tell us about abilities

of first spouse, You can treat the seventh house as Lagna and read

chart accordingly.

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today