Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Ashutoshji, Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. Lately a few private emails have asked about the different interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and carats to us all. What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? Regards, rohiniranjan SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Rohini Ji, The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations may be chargeable] - crystal pages Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 astrology gemstone question Dear Ashutoshji, Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. Lately a few private emails have asked about the different interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and carats to us all. What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? Regards, rohiniranjan SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Ashutoshji! how very interesting! Carat also started as a seed (carob seed) and so did ratti! And they say east and west had different symbolical origins :-) Now my next question, and please take this in a friendly way and indeed it is directed to everyone knowledgeable on this forum: How were the optimum weights of a gemstone for a planet defined? I have read in accounts that for remedying a planet x,y,z carats or rattis must be used but not x', y',z' The prescriptions were very strongly made and very specifically but no reasons given. This bothers me, even if it does not others ... RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Rohini Ji, I was expecting this question from you. The earlier mail of yours was only a preparation for this mail. You are far knowledgeable about astrological subjects than all of us combined. There are several ways of calculating the gemstones' weights depending on their quality, the natives' planets' strengths etc and their importance in the horoscope. My own methods are slightly different from the popular ones and are a result of my own research in gemtherapy. I cannot discuss them in this open forum, due to some professional reasons. One of the very popular and usefull ways is to take one ratti for every ten kilograms of body weight, for precious gems, except diamond. For semi-precious, the weight should be more than the bodyweight-gemweight ratio. For highly precious gems, the gemweight can be less than this ratio. This is just one of the methods and not a rule. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations may be chargeable] - crystal pages Sunday, 28 May, 2006 11:34 Re: astrology gemstone question Dear Ashutoshji! how very interesting! Carat also started as a seed (carob seed) and so did ratti! And they say east and west had different symbolical origins :-) Now my next question, and please take this in a friendly way and indeed it is directed to everyone knowledgeable on this forum: How were the optimum weights of a gemstone for a planet defined? I have read in accounts that for remedying a planet x,y,z carats or rattis must be used but not x', y',z' The prescriptions were very strongly made and very specifically but no reasons given. This bothers me, even if it does not others ... RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Ashutoshji, When I ask a question, I become impatient (old football injury!) because more often than not I do not receive answers, so while waiting for someone to respond, a quick search on the internet revealed the history of carats and the carob seed reference (lapidary based and not astrological answer which was what I really sought). It was more a lucky break than anything else. But then the question came from the text by Harish Johari in which he absolutely specifies xyz but not x'y'z' hence the question to you. In all honesty, I tend to avoid prescribing gemstones because it involves someone else spending a lot of money with hardly any guarantees, so I want to make sure there is a good rationale for this recommendation. Unfortunately, Harish Johari or others I have read or asked from never gave a clear answer as to why they recommend a certain size/weight for gems and different practitioners differ in their recommendations. Your method (1 ratti/10kg) is very similar to what my pharmacist friend uses for physical drugs/medicinals. I think he calls it Clark's formula for children or something. Interesting consonances. I did not mean to put you on the spot to reveal your proprietary methods in a public forum and that is why I had the caveat (others may respond ... etc) so that you do not feel pressed to respond. It is your goodness of heart that you did, anyway. Thanks for sharing what you could. RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > I was expecting this question from you. The earlier mail of yours was only a preparation for this mail. You are far knowledgeable about astrological subjects than all of us combined. > > There are several ways of calculating the gemstones' weights depending on their quality, the natives' planets' strengths etc and their importance in the horoscope. > > My own methods are slightly different from the popular ones and are a result of my own research in gemtherapy. I cannot discuss them in this open forum, due to some professional reasons. > > One of the very popular and usefull ways is to take one ratti for every ten kilograms of body weight, for precious gems, except diamond. For semi-precious, the weight should be more than the bodyweight-gemweight ratio. For highly precious gems, the gemweight can be less than this ratio. This is just one of the methods and not a rule. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 11:34 > Re: astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji! > > how very interesting! Carat also started as a seed (carob seed) and > so did ratti! And they say east and west had different symbolical > origins :-) > > Now my next question, and please take this in a friendly way and > indeed it is directed to everyone knowledgeable on this forum: > > How were the optimum weights of a gemstone for a planet defined? > > I have read in accounts that for remedying a planet x,y,z carats or > rattis must be used but not x', y',z' > > The prescriptions were very strongly made and very specifically but > no reasons given. > > This bothers me, even if it does not others ... > > RR > > , "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a > plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its > seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost > equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a > measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, > drugs and medicines. > > > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was > standardised to 180 milligrams. > > > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. > Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi > ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the > new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to > Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples > near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are > clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, > nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems > in carats. > > > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured > in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new > standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- > group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > > > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > > astrology gemstone question > > > > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum > that > > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with > interest > > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some > jewellers > > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this > to > > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis > and > > carats to us all. > > > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them > are > > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > > > Regards, > > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 .HARE RAM. Dear Mr.Ashutosh, To wear any Gemstone according to body weight seems unlogical.Wearing flawless gemstone is more important than weight but i see such practice in some astrologers.Ok this is your own thinking. Shashie Shekhar astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear Rohini Ji, I was expecting this question from you. The earlier mail of yours was only a preparation for this mail. You are far knowledgeable about astrological subjects than all of us combined. There are several ways of calculating the gemstones' weights depending on their quality, the natives' planets' strengths etc and their importance in the horoscope. My own methods are slightly different from the popular ones and are a result of my own research in gemtherapy. I cannot discuss them in this open forum, due to some professional reasons. One of the very popular and usefull ways is to take one ratti for every ten kilograms of body weight, for precious gems, except diamond. For semi-precious, the weight should be more than the bodyweight-gemweight ratio. For highly precious gems, the gemweight can be less than this ratio. This is just one of the methods and not a rule. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations may be chargeable] - crystal pages Sunday, 28 May, 2006 11:34 Re: astrology gemstone question Dear Ashutoshji! how very interesting! Carat also started as a seed (carob seed) and so did ratti! And they say east and west had different symbolical origins :-) Now my next question, and please take this in a friendly way and indeed it is directed to everyone knowledgeable on this forum: How were the optimum weights of a gemstone for a planet defined? I have read in accounts that for remedying a planet x,y,z carats or rattis must be used but not x', y',z' The prescriptions were very strongly made and very specifically but no reasons given. This bothers me, even if it does not others ... RR , "astrologerashutosh" wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Dear Sharma ji, I do not recall Ashutoshji ever saying that weight alone is the important factor. The question asked to him, by me, was about weight, and he responded to that, specifically as would be expected of someone of his precision and direct-to-point nature. I am sure someone of Ashutoshji's practical experience in the field of gemology and gem prescriptions would take into consideration not just the weight and purity but many other factors. Wouldn't you agree? :-) RR , shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro> wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Dear Mr.Ashutosh, > To wear any Gemstone according to body weight seems unlogical.Wearing flawless gemstone is more important than weight but i see such practice in > some astrologers.Ok this is your own thinking. > > Shashie Shekhar > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > Dear Rohini Ji, > > I was expecting this question from you. The earlier mail of yours was only a preparation for this mail. You are far knowledgeable about astrological subjects than all of us combined. > > There are several ways of calculating the gemstones' weights depending on their quality, the natives' planets' strengths etc and their importance in the horoscope. > > My own methods are slightly different from the popular ones and are a result of my own research in gemtherapy. I cannot discuss them in this open forum, due to some professional reasons. > > One of the very popular and usefull ways is to take one ratti for every ten kilograms of body weight, for precious gems, except diamond. For semi-precious, the weight should be more than the bodyweight-gemweight ratio. For highly precious gems, the gemweight can be less than this ratio. This is just one of the methods and not a rule. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 11:34 > Re: astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji! > > how very interesting! Carat also started as a seed (carob seed) and > so did ratti! And they say east and west had different symbolical > origins :-) > > Now my next question, and please take this in a friendly way and > indeed it is directed to everyone knowledgeable on this forum: > > How were the optimum weights of a gemstone for a planet defined? > > I have read in accounts that for remedying a planet x,y,z carats or > rattis must be used but not x', y',z' > > The prescriptions were very strongly made and very specifically but > no reasons given. > > This bothers me, even if it does not others ... > > RR > > , "astrologerashutosh" > wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a > plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its > seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost > equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a > measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, > drugs and medicines. > > > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was > standardised to 180 milligrams. > > > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. > Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi > ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the > new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to > Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples > near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are > clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, > nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems > in carats. > > > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured > in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new > standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- > group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > > > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > > astrology gemstone question > > > > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum > that > > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with > interest > > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some > jewellers > > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this > to > > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis > and > > carats to us all. > > > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them > are > > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > > > Regards, > > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Respected Ashutosh ji, Ratti seed is neither from a weed nor a plant. It is from a creeper { bel } which grows profusely along the banks of Ganga from Rishikesh down to Haridwar. It could be growing at other places too. But I have seen it growing in that region. As children we were so fascinated by the bright colours that we used to pick the seeds and bring them home. Our mother would make us throw the seeds away and wash our hands. It is a general belief that keeping the ratti seeds in the house will cause 'grah-klesh'. with naman to all gurujan, Varun Trivedi , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Dear Varun, Thanks for further elaborating the description of ratti. I am well aware that it is a creeper. But it is actually a weed, a wild plant. In fact, most of the plants used in ayurveda too, are actually weeds and every weed is a herb, as we all know. Ratti flowers' pollen and its leaves can produce skin allergies when coming in contact with skin. That was one of the reasons that your mother made you wash your hands after throwing the seeds. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations may be chargeable] - varun_trvd Monday, 29 May, 2006 11:19 Re: astrology gemstone question Respected Ashutosh ji, Ratti seed is neither from a weed nor a plant. It is from a creeper { bel } which grows profusely along the banks of Ganga from Rishikesh down to Haridwar. It could be growing at other places too. But I have seen it growing in that region. As children we were so fascinated by the bright colours that we used to pick the seeds and bring them home. Our mother would make us throw the seeds away and wash our hands. It is a general belief that keeping the ratti seeds in the house will cause 'grah-klesh'. with naman to all gurujan, Varun Trivedi , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 .HARE RAM. Dear Mr.Varun, You are quite right.In fact it is a creeper and in north india it is realy a belief that keeping it in the houses will cause Grah-Klesh.It is called "CHAUNTLI" in North India's villages but it is called "GUNJA" in Ayurveda.There are three types of so called Ratti as Black,White and Red.The Red is used like a ratti and others are used in Ayurveda.Specialy Black is used for Goddess Laxmi for getting her divine grace. With all the good wishes Shashi Shekhar Sharma Mobile-09818310075 varun_trvd <varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Respected Ashutosh ji, Ratti seed is neither from a weed nor a plant. It is from a creeper { bel } which grows profusely along the banks of Ganga from Rishikesh down to Haridwar. It could be growing at other places too. But I have seen it growing in that region. As children we were so fascinated by the bright colours that we used to pick the seeds and bring them home. Our mother would make us throw the seeds away and wash our hands. It is a general belief that keeping the ratti seeds in the house will cause 'grah-klesh'. with naman to all gurujan, Varun Trivedi , "astrologerashutosh" wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, drugs and medicines. > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was standardised to 180 milligrams. > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems in carats. > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > - > crystal pages > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > astrology gemstone question > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum that > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with interest > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some jewellers > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address this to > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis and > carats to us all. > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of them are > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > Regards, > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Ashutoshi, That is very interesting to know about ratti causing contact skin allergies! An itchy person soon turns into a very negative and *angry* person and no wonder ratti was believed to cause griha klesha :-) RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Varun, > > Thanks for further elaborating the description of ratti. I am well aware that it is a creeper. But it is actually a weed, a wild plant. In fact, most of the plants used in ayurveda too, are actually weeds and every weed is a herb, as we all know. > > Ratti flowers' pollen and its leaves can produce skin allergies when coming in contact with skin. That was one of the reasons that your mother made you wash your hands after throwing the seeds. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > - > varun_trvd > > Monday, 29 May, 2006 11:19 > Re: astrology gemstone question > > > Respected Ashutosh ji, > > Ratti seed is neither from a weed nor a plant. It is from a creeper > { bel } which grows profusely along the banks of Ganga from > Rishikesh down to Haridwar. It could be growing at other places too. > But I have seen it growing in that region. > As children we were so fascinated by the bright colours that we used > to pick the seeds and bring them home. Our mother would make us > throw the seeds away and wash our hands. It is a general belief that > keeping the ratti seeds in the house will cause 'grah-klesh'. > > with naman to all gurujan, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > , "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > > The original Ratti is actually a seed of a > plant, rather a weed. The plant has a unique quality that all its > seeds, from all plants, grown in any kind of climate, are almost > equal in weight. The weight is around 120 to 122 milligrams. > > > > Due to this special virtue of this seed, it was used as a > measuring unit to measure small amounts of precious metals, gems, > drugs and medicines. > > > > When the metric system was introduced, the ratti was > standardised to 180 milligrams. > > > > A carat is 200 milligrams. One carat has hundred cents. > Diamonds are usually measured in cents. > > > > In most of the Indian cities and towns, the old ratti > (desi ratti, 122 milligrams) is popular. Whereas in Delhi and > Jaipur, the new ratti (180 milligrams) is used. > > > > If a person buys a gem of 5 ratti from Delhi and goes to > Haridwar, the same gem becomes 7.37 rattis. There are many temples > near Haridwar and Rishikesh which sell gems at a cheaper rate but > are clever enough to use the desi ratti. > > > > It is proper to buy gems in carats rather than rattis, > nowadays. That way no confusion remains. > > > > Just convert the required rattis into carats and buy gems > in carats. > > > > The desi ratti was used when the body weight was measured > in Ser and Man. With the use of KIlograms (metric system) the new > standardised ratti (180 milligram) should be used. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on this group but off- > group consultations may be chargeable] > > > > > > > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Sunday, 28 May, 2006 10:05 > > astrology gemstone question > > > > > > Dear Ashutoshji, > > > > Namashkar! Haven't spoken to you directly (through this forum > that > > is) for sometime but have been following your postings with > interest > > and admiration as you continue to serve the populace. > > > > Lately a few private emails have asked about the different > > interpretations and views about rattis and carats by some > jewellers > > and jyotishis, so I am impelled by these requests to address > this to > > you. Please clarify and give the definitive opinion about rattis > and > > carats to us all. > > > > What is the relationship between rattis, carats and grammes etc? > > > > > > what is the best unit to approach a jeweller, and not all of > them are > > jyotish-saavy, when ordering a gem? > > > > Regards, > > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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