Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Dear Chandrashekhar ji As you have mentioned earlier in this thread,how a yoga works ,is important .Your guidance is helpful. After reading your points on digbala - i feel,though sthanabala is important,digbala gives the planet the right dishabodha or where/how to proceed.In other words the direction of the planet is proper,and hence able to give the results in full.Hope i have understood it correctly. Respect Pradeep , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > I knew what you meant. Though the word bhanga is used, it means > reduction in results. So one may not be like a King but exalted Venus > would still, give some good results being in Kendra is logical. This is > more so as any of the 4 kendras would be occupied by exalted Shukra and > whereas in 4th it will have digbala, in 10th it will be bereft of > digbala. So results ought to differ. > Chandrashekhar. > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Sorry for using the word nullification -it is weakening or > > diminishing as you have rightly said. > > > > Pradeep > > , "vijayadas_pradeep" > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed reply.As blemish caused to Jupiter being > > the > > > reason for nullification was clear in your mail,i did not mention > > saturn > > > again.As i had not read the original shloka, my doubts were - why > > does > > > blemish caused to Jupiter affects just Malavya and not other > > > Mahapurushas.As Malavya happens,not only when Venus is > > exalted ,but > > > also when in taurus and Libra,dispositor role of Jupiter, didn't > > give a > > > complete answer.Thus my doubt of it being the exaltation lord.But > > your > > > mail has clarified all doubts,as original shloka is specific and > > points > > > to exaltaion of Shukra and hence blemish caused to dispositor. > > > > > > Bhoga and Spirituality were equally good explanations. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > It is not Jupiter alone , it has to be aspected or conjunct > > Saturn for > > > > cancellation of Malavya yoga. Saturn and Jupiter when > > influencing each > > > > other indicate the possibility of spiritual awakening. Malavya > > yoga > > > > being created by Venus relates to Bhoga which is exactly opposite > > > > spirituality and this might be the reason that the results of > > Malavya > > > > yoga get nullified ( I would say diminished). However if we look > > at > > > the > > > > original shloka it also talks of Venus in exaltation going waste > > and > > > one > > > > troubled by planets with Malavya yoga when Jupiter is aspected or > > > > conjunct Shani. The principle there is the blemish to the > > dispositor > > > of > > > > Shukra causing the yoga going waste. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > What could be the reason behind Jupiter nullifying Malavya.Why > > it is > > > > > specific on Malavya and not Bhadra/Ruchaka etc. > > > > > Can Jupiter being the exaltation lord of Shukra a reason. > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > It does exist in C K Nadi and I had referred the same in the > > > thread on > > > > > > the subject before it got diluted. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ++Om Datta Guru++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought would post as an afterthought though the thread is > > dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandubhai (C.S.Patel) in one of his articles in Feb 1984 > > > > > Astrological > > > > > > > Magazine writes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrakala Nadi.Vol.2, Part 1, Page 5 verse No 27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In a nativity, if Jup is associated with OR aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > > > > Malavya Yoga is nullified. The good results of Ven are not > > > > > experienced > > > > > > > and the native is troubled by blemish." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anybody knows of any such verse in Chandrakala nadi pls > > post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dear Pradeep you have understood right. Not only sthanabala, even strength from navamsha is also importance along with the Bala of Chandra for assessing the strength with which a yoga shall fructify. Even amongst the Kendra there is different strength to each Kendra and again each of the Kendra is apex of a particular type of Trikona. This has to be factored in for finding out how a yoga will work, in practice. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > As you have mentioned earlier in this thread,how a yoga works ,is > important .Your guidance is helpful. > After reading your points on digbala - i feel,though sthanabala is > important,digbala gives the planet the right dishabodha or where/how to > proceed.In other words the direction of the planet is proper,and hence > able to give the results in full.Hope i have understood it correctly. > > Respect > Pradeep > > , Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > I knew what you meant. Though the word bhanga is used, it means > > reduction in results. So one may not be like a King but exalted Venus > > would still, give some good results being in Kendra is logical. This > is > > more so as any of the 4 kendras would be occupied by exalted Shukra > and > > whereas in 4th it will have digbala, in 10th it will be bereft of > > digbala. So results ought to differ. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Sorry for using the word nullification -it is weakening or > > > diminishing as you have rightly said. > > > > > > Pradeep > > > , "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed reply.As blemish caused to Jupiter being > > > the > > > > reason for nullification was clear in your mail,i did not mention > > > saturn > > > > again.As i had not read the original shloka, my doubts were - why > > > does > > > > blemish caused to Jupiter affects just Malavya and not other > > > > Mahapurushas.As Malavya happens,not only when Venus is > > > exalted ,but > > > > also when in taurus and Libra,dispositor role of Jupiter, didn't > > > give a > > > > complete answer.Thus my doubt of it being the exaltation lord.But > > > your > > > > mail has clarified all doubts,as original shloka is specific and > > > points > > > > to exaltaion of Shukra and hence blemish caused to dispositor. > > > > > > > > Bhoga and Spirituality were equally good explanations. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > It is not Jupiter alone , it has to be aspected or conjunct > > > Saturn for > > > > > cancellation of Malavya yoga. Saturn and Jupiter when > > > influencing each > > > > > other indicate the possibility of spiritual awakening. Malavya > > > yoga > > > > > being created by Venus relates to Bhoga which is exactly > opposite > > > > > spirituality and this might be the reason that the results of > > > Malavya > > > > > yoga get nullified ( I would say diminished). However if we look > > > at > > > > the > > > > > original shloka it also talks of Venus in exaltation going waste > > > and > > > > one > > > > > troubled by planets with Malavya yoga when Jupiter is aspected > or > > > > > conjunct Shani. The principle there is the blemish to the > > > dispositor > > > > of > > > > > Shukra causing the yoga going waste. > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > What could be the reason behind Jupiter nullifying Malavya.Why > > > it is > > > > > > specific on Malavya and not Bhadra/Ruchaka etc. > > > > > > Can Jupiter being the exaltation lord of Shukra a reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > > > > > chandrashekhar46@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > It does exist in C K Nadi and I had referred the same in the > > > > thread on > > > > > > > the subject before it got diluted. > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suniljohn_2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ++Om Datta Guru++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought would post as an afterthought though the thread is > > > dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandubhai (C.S.Patel) in one of his articles in Feb 1984 > > > > > > Astrological > > > > > > > > Magazine writes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrakala Nadi.Vol.2, Part 1, Page 5 verse No 27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "In a nativity, if Jup is associated with OR aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > > > > Malavya Yoga is nullified. The good results of Ven are not > > > > > > experienced > > > > > > > > and the native is troubled by blemish." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anybody knows of any such verse in Chandrakala nadi pls > > > post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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