Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I would like to state some rules about planetary relationships that will clear some astrology concepts: 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of Mercury. 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. confused yet??? I am! How can the same planet be enemy, friends or neutrals? are we looking at this relationship for aspect purpose only? How does the planet fare if the ruler of that house is enemy? Using the rules above, can I say that Mercury will not really damage Mars signfications, but Mars will try to damage Mercury's signfications, either by aspect or house rulership? If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, is this a good placement? What I don't undestand is that Me is neutral to Mars, but Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge this placement? In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is recieving 7th aspect of its enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is also casting its 3rd (and friendly) aspect to the 10th house. In practice, my career is NOT damaged yet, there were some obstacles, delays but in the end I believe it worked out for the best. So it leads me to think that the Mars-ruled sign tried to damage Mercury (career, intelligence) signfications, but Saturn was also casting its aspect - so although Saturn's aspect did cause obstacles and delays, it worked out ok in the end. I am about to start Mercury Mahadasha next year (after an interesting 19 years of Saturn Mahadasha)! If we use the concept of Dasha Sandhi, then my Mercury mahadasha has already started. So basically is my Mercury placed well or not? The MD has me worried! SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 There are permanant relationship betwen planets; and temporary relationship too, for any chart in question. The planets when they create association affect each other's natural characteristics, but work towrds their repective karkatvas (for their house lordship and natural ones), house occupation and house aspected. Whenever, the characteristics of associated planets are confronting, they have possibilities of influencing negatively (afflicting or rendering other weak). But if you blend the characteristics well in your approach for that specific house/karkatava in question, can give wonderful results as well. For effective characteristics assessment (including modifications for the influences in the chart) - please do consider sign dispositor and constellation dispositor as very important factor. Coming to mercury - being 5th and 8th lord is major planet for bulk income (unearned income, income from share markets). Being 5th lord in 10th (6th from 5th) will carry greater attention towards children; being 8th lord in 10th (3rd from 8th - 3rd being house of communication and 8th of confidentiality) will carry greater burden towards confidentiality at work. Favourable aspects to mercury will boost its performance (even for gains) and unfavourable ones will harm it. Saturn being lagnesh is yoga graha and will certainly be helpful factor; and so is mars' aspect (3rd lord and 10th lord) - aspecting 10th house (its own sign as well upachaya house 10th). You may extend the interpretations now from these (with more factors and for the events). Yes, there are few negatives engaged for their associations (including of 8th lord in 10th) - but let us focus more on their characteristics and see, how best we can blend to draw the balance. if the lord of 5th and 8th conjuncts, in its dasha bhukti - native has possibility of bulk income / gains. Mercury mahadasha gives lots of inconsistency in its results (for its fast movements, close conjunction with sun and frequent retrogressions.) regards / Prafulla , "astrozeal" <astrozeal> wrote: > > I would like to state some rules about planetary relationships that > will clear some astrology concepts: > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of Mercury. > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > confused yet??? I am! > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or neutrals? are we > looking at this relationship for aspect purpose only? How does the > planet fare if the ruler of that house is enemy? Using the rules > above, can I say that Mercury will not really damage Mars > signfications, but Mars will try to damage Mercury's signfications, > either by aspect or house rulership? > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, is this a good > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me is neutral to Mars, but > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge this placement? > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is recieving 7th aspect of its > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is also casting its 3rd > (and friendly) aspect to the 10th house. > > In practice, my career is NOT damaged yet, there were some > obstacles, delays but in the end I believe it worked out for the > best. > > So it leads me to think that the Mars-ruled sign tried to damage > Mercury (career, intelligence) signfications, but Saturn was also > casting its aspect - so although Saturn's aspect did cause obstacles > and delays, it worked out ok in the end. > > I am about to start Mercury Mahadasha next year (after an > interesting 19 years of Saturn Mahadasha)! If we use the concept of > Dasha Sandhi, then my Mercury mahadasha has already started. So > basically is my Mercury placed well or not? The MD has me worried! > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hi Prafulla. "Mercury mahadasha gives lots of inconsistency in its results (for its fast movements, close conjunction with sun and frequent etrogressions.)" How true ! I have Mercury as the fifth lord in the first house, (Taurus ascendant), conjunct with Mars, Rahu, and Sun (Sun is combusting Mercury deeply). Eversince I started Mercury Mahadasha my career has been witnessing wild swings. Not that I had any great career during my Saturn Mahadasha. But I was hoping life to stablize in Mercury major period. Instead, it is really taking me on a roller coaster drive. One reason could be it is badly afflicted by Mars, and Rahu too, apart from being deeply combusted. Then Saturn is aspecting it from the 11th house. Well, the bottom line is, as you say, Mercury is capable of giving very inconsistent results. Thanks for the wonderful post. Take care Manoj --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: > There are permanant relationship betwen planets; and > temporary > relationship too, for any chart in question. The > planets when they > create association affect each other's natural > characteristics, but > work towrds their repective karkatvas (for their > house lordship and > natural ones), house occupation and house aspected. > > Whenever, the characteristics of associated planets > are confronting, > they have possibilities of influencing negatively > (afflicting or > rendering other weak). But if you blend the > characteristics well in > your approach for that specific house/karkatava in > question, can give > wonderful results as well. For effective > characteristics assessment > (including modifications for the influences in the > chart) - please do > consider sign dispositor and constellation > dispositor as very > important factor. > > Coming to mercury - being 5th and 8th lord is major > planet for bulk > income (unearned income, income from share markets). > Being 5th lord in > 10th (6th from 5th) will carry greater attention > towards children; > being 8th lord in 10th (3rd from 8th - 3rd being > house of > communication and 8th of confidentiality) will carry > greater burden > towards confidentiality at work. Favourable aspects > to mercury will > boost its performance (even for gains) and > unfavourable ones will harm > it. Saturn being lagnesh is yoga graha and will > certainly be helpful > factor; and so is mars' aspect (3rd lord and 10th > lord) - aspecting > 10th house (its own sign as well upachaya house > 10th). You may extend > the interpretations now from these (with more > factors and for the > events). Yes, there are few negatives engaged for > their associations > (including of 8th lord in 10th) - but let us focus > more on their > characteristics and see, how best we can blend to > draw the balance. > > if the lord of 5th and 8th conjuncts, in its dasha > bhukti - native has > possibility of bulk income / gains. Mercury > mahadasha gives lots of > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > movements, close > conjunction with sun and frequent retrogressions.) > > regards / Prafulla > > , "astrozeal" > <astrozeal> > wrote: > > > > I would like to state some rules about planetary > relationships that > > will clear some astrology concepts: > > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of Mercury. > > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > > > confused yet??? I am! > > > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or > neutrals? are we > > looking at this relationship for aspect purpose > only? How does the > > planet fare if the ruler of that house is enemy? > Using the rules > > above, can I say that Mercury will not really > damage Mars > > signfications, but Mars will try to damage > Mercury's signfications, > > either by aspect or house rulership? > > > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, is > this a good > > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me is > neutral to Mars, but > > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge this > placement? > > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is recieving > 7th aspect of its > > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is > also casting its 3rd > > (and friendly) aspect to the 10th house. > > > > In practice, my career is NOT damaged yet, there > were some > > obstacles, delays but in the end I believe it > worked out for the > > best. > > > > So it leads me to think that the Mars-ruled sign > tried to damage > > Mercury (career, intelligence) signfications, but > Saturn was also > > casting its aspect - so although Saturn's aspect > did cause obstacles > > and delays, it worked out ok in the end. > > > > I am about to start Mercury Mahadasha next year > (after an > > interesting 19 years of Saturn Mahadasha)! If we > use the concept of > > Dasha Sandhi, then my Mercury mahadasha has > already started. So > > basically is my Mercury placed well or not? The MD > has me worried! > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Dear Manoj Mercury is afflicted by 12th lord mars. Combustion does not affect mercury, except when sun is lord of dusthana (when sun is negative planet for a chart). All planets / combinations can not give the results beyond lagna's strength and 12th lord in lagna is affecting it a bit (read with lagna lord's strength). Mercury with rahu makes a native - like "madmast hathi"; if rahu's ambition blended well with action (mars) and intelligence/analytical skills / creativity (mercury being 2nd and 5th lord) - it will make you successful in your career pursuits. I always observed mercury to be very fluctuating (not necessarily adverse) in its dasha / bhukti. Being 2nd house lord too, in 12th from its positioning with 7th lord (another maraka planet)- one should be careful for health perspective. Venus / mars become karmic controlling planets and transit of natural malefics over L1 / L7 need to be handled with care. Did you observe - 12t lord in 2nd house giving lots of money and parental bliss. regards / Prafulla Gang , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000> wrote: > > Hi Prafulla. > "Mercury mahadasha gives lots of > inconsistency in its results (for its fast movements, > close conjunction with sun and frequent > etrogressions.)" > How true ! I have Mercury as the fifth lord in the > first house, (Taurus ascendant), conjunct with Mars, > Rahu, and Sun (Sun is combusting Mercury deeply). > Eversince I started Mercury Mahadasha my career has > been witnessing wild swings. Not that I had any great > career during my Saturn Mahadasha. But I was hoping > life to stablize in Mercury major period. Instead, it > is really taking me on a roller coaster drive. One > reason could be it is badly afflicted by Mars, and > Rahu too, apart from being deeply combusted. Then > Saturn is aspecting it from the 11th house. > Well, the bottom line is, as you say, Mercury is > capable of giving very inconsistent results. > Thanks for the wonderful post. > Take care > Manoj > > > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: > > > There are permanant relationship betwen planets; and > > temporary > > relationship too, for any chart in qu estion. The > > planets when they > > create association affect each other's natural > > characteristics, but > > work towrds their repective karkatvas (for their > > house lordship and > > natural ones), house occupation and house aspected. > > > > Whenever, the characteristics of associated planets > > are confronting, > > they have possibilities of influencing negatively > > (afflicting or > > rendering other weak). But if you blend the > > characteristics well in > > your approach for that specific house/karkatava in > > question, can give > > wonderful results as well. For effective > > characteristics assessment > > (including modifications for the influences in the > > chart) - please do > > consider sign dispositor and constellation > > dispositor as very > > important factor. > > > > Coming to mercury - being 5th and 8th lord is major > > planet for bulk > > income (unearned income, income from share markets). > > Being 5th lord in > > 10th (6th from 5th) will carry greater attention > > towards children; > > being 8th lord in 10th (3rd from 8th - 3rd being > > house of > > communication and 8th of confidentiality) will carry > > greater burden > > towards confidentiality at work. Favourable aspects > > to mercury will > > boost its performance (even for gains) and > > unfavourable ones will harm > > it. Saturn being lagnesh is yoga graha and will > > certainly be helpful > > factor; and so is mars' aspect (3rd lord and 10th > > lord) - aspecting > > 10th house (its own sign as well upachaya house > > 10th). You may extend > > the interpretations now from these (with more > > factors and for the > > events). Yes, there are few negatives engaged for > > their associations > > (including of 8th lord in 10th) - but let us focus > > more on their > > characteristics and see, how best we can blend to > > draw the balance. > > > > if the lord of 5th and 8th conjuncts, in its dasha > > bhukti - native has > > possibility of bulk income / gains. Mercury > > mahadasha gives lots of > > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > > movements, close > > conjunction with sun and frequent retrogressions.) > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , "astrozeal" > > <astrozeal@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I would like to state some rules about planetary > > relationships that > > > will clear some astrology concepts: > > > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > > > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of Mercury. > > > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > > > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > > > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > > > > > confused yet??? I am! > > > > > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or > > neutrals? are we > > > looking at this relationship for aspect purpose > > only? How does the > > > planet fare if the ruler of that house is enemy? > > Using the rules > > > above, can I say that Mercury will not really > > damage Mars > > > signfications, but Mars will try to damage > > Mercury's signfications, > > > either by aspect or house rulership? > > > > > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, is > > this a good > > > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me is > > neutral to Mars, but > > > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge this > > placement? > > > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is recieving > > 7th aspect of its > > > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is > > also casting its 3rd > > > (and friendly) aspect to the 10th house. > > > > > > In practice, my career is NOT damaged yet, there > > were some > > > obstacles, delays but in the end I believe it > > worked out for the > > > best. > > > > > > So it leads me to think that the Mars-ruled sign > > tried to damage > > > Mercury (career, intelligence) signfications, but > > Saturn was also > > > casting its aspect - so although Saturn's aspect > > did cause obstacles > > > and delays, it worked out ok in the end. > > > > > > I am about to start Mercury Mahadasha next year > > (after an > > > interesting 19 years of Saturn Mahadasha)! If we > > use the concept of > > > Dasha Sandhi, then my Mercury mahadasha has > > already started. So > > > basically is my Mercury placed well or not? The MD > > has me worried! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hi Prafulla. Thanks for your post again. It indeed gave me fresh pespective on some of the issues. Just one last thing: "Did you observe - 12t lord in 2nd house giving lots > of money and parental bliss". I couldn't understand this. I am guessing your above observation is related to general astrological principle and not related to my horoscope. I suppose in my case, the 12th lord (Mars) is in the first house. Lastly, you are very right about 12th lord in the first house. To make the matters worst, the lagna lord Venus is in the 12th house. So what Saturn could have given and what Mercury would be giving !!!!!. Life is completely screwed man. Thanks once again Bye for now Manoj --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: > Dear Manoj > > Mercury is afflicted by 12th lord mars. Combustion > does not affect > mercury, except when sun is lord of dusthana (when > sun is negative > planet for a chart). All planets / combinations can > not give the > results beyond lagna's strength and 12th lord in > lagna is affecting it > a bit (read with lagna lord's strength). Mercury > with rahu makes a > native - like "madmast hathi"; if rahu's ambition > blended well with > action (mars) and intelligence/analytical skills / > creativity (mercury > being 2nd and 5th lord) - it will make you > successful in your career > pursuits. > > I always observed mercury to be very fluctuating > (not necessarily > adverse) in its dasha / bhukti. Being 2nd house lord > too, in 12th from > its positioning with 7th lord (another maraka > planet)- one should be > careful for health perspective. Venus / mars become > karmic controlling > planets and transit of natural malefics over L1 / L7 > need to be > handled with care. > > Did you observe - 12t lord in 2nd house giving lots > of money and > parental bliss. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > , Manoj > Sharma > <manojsharma662000> wrote: > > > > Hi Prafulla. > > "Mercury mahadasha gives lots of > > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > movements, > > close conjunction with sun and frequent > > etrogressions.)" > > How true ! I have Mercury as the fifth lord in the > > first house, (Taurus ascendant), conjunct with > Mars, > > Rahu, and Sun (Sun is combusting Mercury deeply). > > Eversince I started Mercury Mahadasha my career > has > > been witnessing wild swings. Not that I had any > great > > career during my Saturn Mahadasha. But I was > hoping > > life to stablize in Mercury major period. Instead, > it > > is really taking me on a roller coaster drive. One > > reason could be it is badly afflicted by Mars, and > > Rahu too, apart from being deeply combusted. Then > > Saturn is aspecting it from the 11th house. > > Well, the bottom line is, as you say, Mercury is > > capable of giving very inconsistent results. > > Thanks for the wonderful post. > > Take care > > Manoj > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: > > > > > There are permanant relationship betwen planets; > and > > > temporary > > > relationship too, for any chart in qu > > estion. The > > > planets when they > > > create association affect each other's natural > > > characteristics, but > > > work towrds their repective karkatvas (for their > > > house lordship and > > > natural ones), house occupation and house > aspected. > > > > > > Whenever, the characteristics of associated > planets > > > are confronting, > > > they have possibilities of influencing > negatively > > > (afflicting or > > > rendering other weak). But if you blend the > > > characteristics well in > > > your approach for that specific house/karkatava > in > > > question, can give > > > wonderful results as well. For effective > > > characteristics assessment > > > (including modifications for the influences in > the > > > chart) - please do > > > consider sign dispositor and constellation > > > dispositor as very > > > important factor. > > > > > > Coming to mercury - being 5th and 8th lord is > major > > > planet for bulk > > > income (unearned income, income from share > markets). > > > Being 5th lord in > > > 10th (6th from 5th) will carry greater attention > > > towards children; > > > being 8th lord in 10th (3rd from 8th - 3rd being > > > house of > > > communication and 8th of confidentiality) will > carry > > > greater burden > > > towards confidentiality at work. Favourable > aspects > > > to mercury will > > > boost its performance (even for gains) and > > > unfavourable ones will harm > > > it. Saturn being lagnesh is yoga graha and will > > > certainly be helpful > > > factor; and so is mars' aspect (3rd lord and > 10th > > > lord) - aspecting > > > 10th house (its own sign as well upachaya house > > > 10th). You may extend > > > the interpretations now from these (with more > > > factors and for the > > > events). Yes, there are few negatives engaged > for > > > their associations > > > (including of 8th lord in 10th) - but let us > focus > > > more on their > > > characteristics and see, how best we can blend > to > > > draw the balance. > > > > > > if the lord of 5th and 8th conjuncts, in its > dasha > > > bhukti - native has > > > possibility of bulk income / gains. Mercury > > > mahadasha gives lots of > > > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > > > movements, close > > > conjunction with sun and frequent > retrogressions.) > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > , > "astrozeal" > > > <astrozeal@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I would like to state some rules about > planetary > > > relationships that > > > > will clear some astrology concepts: > > > > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > > > > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of > Mercury. > > > > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > > > > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > > > > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > > > > > > > confused yet??? I am! > > > > > > > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or > > > neutrals? are we > > > > looking at this relationship for aspect > purpose > > > only? How does the > > > > planet fare if the ruler of that house is > enemy? > > > Using the rules > > > > above, can I say that Mercury will not really > > > damage Mars > > > > signfications, but Mars will try to damage > > > Mercury's signfications, > > > > either by aspect or house rulership? > > > > > > > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, > is > > > this a good > > > > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me > is > > > neutral to Mars, but > > > > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge > this > > > placement? > > > > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is > recieving > > > 7th aspect of its > > > > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is > === message truncated === SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dear Manoj Yes, that was general comment. I have not considered / applied exchange related effects (12th lord in lagna and lagna in 12th house). Most astrologers consider them giving good results. regards / Prafulla , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000> wrote: > > Hi Prafulla. > Thanks for your post again. It indeed gave me fresh > pespective on some of the issues. Just one last thing: > "Did you observe - 12t lord in 2nd house giving lots > > of money and parental bliss". > I couldn't understand this. I am guessing your above > observation is related to general astrological > principle and not related to my horoscope. I suppose > in my case, the 12th lord (Mars) is in the first > house. > Lastly, you are very right about 12th lord in the > first house. To make the matters worst, the lagna lord > Venus is in the 12th house. So what Saturn could have > given and what Mercury would be giving !!!!!. Life > is completely screwed man. > Thanks once again > Bye for now > Manoj > > > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: > > > Dear Manoj > > > > Mercury is afflicted by 12th lord mars. Combustion > > does not affect > > mercury, except when sun is lord of dusthana (when > > sun is negative > > planet for a chart). All planets / combinations can > > not give the > > results beyond lagna's strength and 12th lord in > > lagna is affecting it > > a bit (read with lagna lord's strength). Mercury > > with rahu makes a > > native - like "madmast hathi"; if rahu's ambition > > blended well with > > action (mars) and intelligence/analytical skills / > > creativity (mercury > > being 2nd and 5th lord) - it will make you > > successful in your career > > pursuits. > > > > I always observed mercury to be very fluctuating > > (not necessarily > > adverse) in its dasha / bhukti. Being 2nd house lord > > too, in 12th from > > its positioning with 7th lord (another maraka > > planet)- one should be > > careful for health perspective. Venus / mars become > > karmic controlling > > planets and transit of natural malefics over L1 / L7 > > need to be > > handled with care. > > > > Did you observe - 12t lord in 2nd house giving lots > > of money and > > parental bliss. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > , Manoj > > Sharma > > <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Prafulla. > > > "Mercury mahadasha gives lots of > > > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > > movements, > > > close conjunction with sun and frequent > > > etrogressions.)" > > > How true ! I have Mercury as the fifth lord in the > > > first house, (Taurus ascendant), conjunct with > > Mars, > > > Rahu, and Sun (Sun is combusting Mercury deeply). > > > Eversince I started Mercury Mahadasha my career > > has > > > been witnessing wild swings. Not that I had any > > great > > > career during my Saturn Mahadasha. But I was > > hoping > > > life to stablize in Mercury major period. Instead, > > it > > > is really taking me on a roller coaster drive. One > > > reason could be it is badly afflicted by Mars, and > > > Rahu too, apart from being deeply combusted. Then > > > Saturn is aspecting it from the 11th house. > > > Well, the bottom line is, as you say, Mercury is > > > capable of giving very inconsistent results. > > > Thanks for the wonderful post. > > > Take care > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > There are permanant relationship betwen planets; > > and > > > > temporary > > > > relationship too, for any chart in qu > > > > estion. The > > > > planets when they > > > > create association affect each other's natural > > > > characteristics, but > > > > work towrds their repective karkatvas (for their > > > > house lordship and > > > > natural ones), house occupation and house > > aspected. > > > > > > > > Whenever, the characteristics of associated > > planets > > > > are confronting, > > > > they have possibilities of influencing > > negatively > > > > (afflicting or > > > > rendering other weak). But if you blend the > > > > characteristics well in > > > > your approach for that specific house/karkatava > > in > > > > question, can give > > > > wonderful results as well. For effective > > > > characteristics assessment > > > > (including modifications for the influences in > > the > > > > chart) - please do > > > > consider sign dispositor and constellation > > > > dispositor as very > > > > important factor. > > > > > > > > Coming to mercury - being 5th and 8th lord is > > major > > > > planet for bulk > > > > income (unearned income, income from share > > markets). > > > > Being 5th lord in > > > > 10th (6th from 5th) will carry greater attention > > > > towards children; > > > > being 8th lord in 10th (3rd from 8th - 3rd being > > > > house of > > > > communication and 8th of confidentiality) will > > carry > > > > greater burden > > > > towards confidentiality at work. Favourable > > aspects > > > > to mercury will > > > > boost its performance (even for gains) and > > > > unfavourable ones will harm > > > > it. Saturn being lagnesh is yoga graha and will > > > > certainly be helpful > > > > factor; and so is mars' aspect (3rd lord and > > 10th > > > > lord) - aspecting > > > > 10th house (its own sign as well upachaya house > > > > 10th). You may extend > > > > the interpretations now from these (with more > > > > factors and for the > > > > events). Yes, there are few negatives engaged > > for > > > > their associations > > > > (including of 8th lord in 10th) - but let us > > focus > > > > more on their > > > > characteristics and see, how best we can blend > > to > > > > draw the balance. > > > > > > > > if the lord of 5th and 8th conjuncts, in its > > dasha > > > > bhukti - native has > > > > possibility of bulk income / gains. Mercury > > > > mahadasha gives lots of > > > > inconsistency in its results (for its fast > > > > movements, close > > > > conjunction with sun and frequent > > retrogressions.) > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > , > > "astrozeal" > > > > <astrozeal@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would like to state some rules about > > planetary > > > > relationships that > > > > > will clear some astrology concepts: > > > > > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > > > > > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of > > Mercury. > > > > > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > > > > > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > > > > > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > > > > > > > > > confused yet??? I am! > > > > > > > > > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or > > > > neutrals? are we > > > > > looking at this relationship for aspect > > purpose > > > > only? How does the > > > > > planet fare if the ruler of that house is > > enemy? > > > > Using the rules > > > > > above, can I say that Mercury will not really > > > > damage Mars > > > > > signfications, but Mars will try to damage > > > > Mercury's signfications, > > > > > either by aspect or house rulership? > > > > > > > > > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, > > is > > > > this a good > > > > > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me > > is > > > > neutral to Mars, but > > > > > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge > > this > > > > placement? > > > > > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is > > recieving > > > > 7th aspect of its > > > > > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is > > > === message truncated === > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dear friend, The temporary and natural relationships are not random or arbitrary. The former is based on the planets' mutual location in a chart while the latter is dependent on the planets' rulership etc. Sloka 55 of Chapter 3 (planetary basics, Sharma Edition describes it on page 37) gives the key. It is very easy and makes sense,as opposed to cramming the relationship matrix! While you are at it, read the 56th sloka also. What the heck --read the entire chapter, it is short!! RR , "astrozeal" <astrozeal> wrote: > > I would like to state some rules about planetary relationships that > will clear some astrology concepts: > 1. Mercury is supposed to be neutral to Mars. > 2. But Mars is supposed to be an enemy of Mercury. > 3. Saturn is friends with Mercury. > 4. Mercury is neutral to saturn > 5. Saturn is enemy to Mars. > > confused yet??? I am! > > How can the same planet be enemy, friends or neutrals? are we > looking at this relationship for aspect purpose only? How does the > planet fare if the ruler of that house is enemy? Using the rules > above, can I say that Mercury will not really damage Mars > signfications, but Mars will try to damage Mercury's signfications, > either by aspect or house rulership? > > If Mercury is placed in 10th house in Scorpio, is this a good > placement? What I don't undestand is that Me is neutral to Mars, but > Mars is enemy to Mercury, so how do we judge this placement? > In my chart, Mercury in 10th house is recieving 7th aspect of its > enemy Mars. The only benefit is that Saturn is also casting its 3rd > (and friendly) aspect to the 10th house. > > In practice, my career is NOT damaged yet, there were some > obstacles, delays but in the end I believe it worked out for the > best. > > So it leads me to think that the Mars-ruled sign tried to damage > Mercury (career, intelligence) signfications, but Saturn was also > casting its aspect - so although Saturn's aspect did cause obstacles > and delays, it worked out ok in the end. > > I am about to start Mercury Mahadasha next year (after an > interesting 19 years of Saturn Mahadasha)! If we use the concept of > Dasha Sandhi, then my Mercury mahadasha has already started. So > basically is my Mercury placed well or not? The MD has me worried! > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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