GURU- CHANDAN YOGA - how yoga will work 26/5- p3 it not u

May 26, 2006

Hi Prfulla,

it is not u sure u got it isin't the target. I mane clearl the one who dubbed Yoga arishta , chandal and Chandan....

as eery topic there r numbers threads in bits for that source and fortunately after soem dressing by several memenrs has written better in last 2 months can prev yrs...! used to ridicule, `take a drift', you never know from wherre my questiosn come..' etc r some of the trademark lines

WE NEED so called experts comment on subject, not their autobiographies, or beating about the bush articels in installments.

AND ABOUT WHAT U SAID ON DIFFERENT ASTROLOGERS USING DIFF METHODS, AND ALSO the various elelments in a chart analysis

WHY DOES THIS NOT APPLY TO THE very subject now u started Guru Chandal Yoga itself or Gajakesari Yoga in Dusthanas

my examples r there pl see them and tell me

I DI DNOT GIVE ANY ASTRO BASED info other than lfie events for them and also the combination in 6th and 12th Gajakesari yoga

and hwo it can work in todays times for such people. they can get good loans, generosu grnts from anyone.

u can study the carts and let me know what u feel

I PREFER ONLY READING CHARTS rarely I comment on such topics as it was gooing too far stepped in u can c how many such threads u will fine me or incharts...

Good luck u r doing well though.

Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: Dear Mr Kumar

I do not know, which astrologer member is your target in personal

attacks. But Nothing is superficial; and if it is, who knows the

utimate one??

Yes, you are correct - yogas are planetary combinations under certain

conditions and can be either good or bad for specific native

(depending upon combination); that is why perhaps, sage parashar has

not termed them as arishta.

Yes, you are correct that rahu / guru can be less malefic or good, in

current yuga. But it needs to be weighed for specific native. Is not it?

Moon/guru - I have seen not working for many charts..and who knows,

what has been the reasons for the events - not necessarily the

combinations you quoted (lots of overriding factors including aspects,

associations, positioning, D charts, SAV etc). I know, planets in

kendra from moon strengthen the moon; and so is the jupiter - but when

we want to derive conclusive candidates, it may still not qualify.

Most astrologers have their own way to read the event and very often

many such event candidates supercede one another. So we must be open

to evaluate the relevance thereof and work out the possibility to

derive consistent application of astrological factors. I do not think,

any one of us are rediculing the sages or their works. These works, in

fact, are the basis of astrology; but can be subject to current yuga.

We all have, at some or other, started with these books and modified

as we learnt from fellow astrologers, our experiences and multiplicity

of techniques.

So, do not be judgemental on individuals; after all, we all are

sharing our opinions and perspectives - and that too, based upon our

own experiences. Let us comment on the astrological issues, instead of

commenting on individuals. In my view, with all the differences (which

is natural, understandable and acceptable)each astrologer's view must

be respected (not necessarily agreed)- unless "someone" declares

himself as ultimate authority and in that case, I am willing to learn

from him without any arguments.

Stay to the thread. One need not be so aggressive in attacking

individuals - if the interpretations do not suit you.

I too, have different opinions on many areas, but it has always been a

learning ground from the experiences from others...

regards / Prafulla Gang

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> Hi Prafulla, pt arjun and others...

>

> It is strange that there is superificial interpration and/or

understanding of the words and matter around now. I am no authority

but hhwat little i had come across as i learn in lfie I know my past

25 yrs of work is v little distance covered in this field.

>

> THE sudden acceptence of Guru chandala yoga not arisha a as word

>

> NOW DARIDRA YOGA, VAMSA NASHA YOGA, ARISHTA YOGAS. Putrashokha

yoga etc.

>

> these are names of some malefic yogas too

> YOGA MEANS a combination good or bad, and its result is implied ni

the name preceeding Yoga. and the threads r they serious or playful,

whimsical efforts here i can't understand form the so called superman

around who comments on every thread in bits every few secs can't have

a crystalised way of presentign it.

>

> NOW I HAD ALSO SAID in current age it is less of a malefic, as

being materialsitic is no sin today rather is ones prowess, acievemtn

or success yardstick. unless ill-placed.

>

> NOW THE DATA here r some.

>

> 1-7-65, 00.32,Bangalore, male dark complesxion very well to do

finincially v sound-rich but married just 2 yrs ago only son.

>

> same date 1-7-65, 23.32, 16 57 N, 82 57 E. female married in June

95, girl in 96 aug, son in apr 99, avg FINANCE at start worked, good

looking part of a 6 member family, married into a well to do family.

but with many adjustments issues threre betwen members there and

within themselves.

>

> 20-7-65, 4.54 hr, 16 42 N, 81 06 E. 1st man to study beyond 10th

did graduation , went outside village, state 1st man to build a

concrete house, in village. went to US as a dependent and became the

Boss of his wife. in 6 months.

>

> 18-11-68, 23.15 Hyd a Parsi male married a rich Tamil well to do

tho but is doing great after marriage.

> male, 1-12-57, 02.04, Hrs Madras a son of a great singer is a good

dubbing artist, sings well no luck tho in that area.

>

> male 20-6-65, 06.1pm, Madras, well to do man solid resources

gifted many friends money to build their houses from his earnings his

father died when he was stuyding in the gas explosion in 1982 Delhi

Asiad preprations in Hotel, even people who asked him some money got

full cost say 20-45 laks each from him as gift no1 repays him nor see

him later. is not married has no plasn to, wants to live as he wants

not at women's dictates now has just a companion a greek women i think.

> ***

> about GAJAKESARI YOGA in dusthans question it works still

> if in Kendras u get it royally if in dusthana u get it from some1

not ur own earned

>

> case 1M 27-9-62, 18.11 hrs, 17 27 N, 82 35 E. he lived like a

prince as his 5 elder brothers funded what he like all his life. wore

the most expensive clothes for 11 months thrrew it, got new ones.

> now after marriage in 95, a gril in 96, and 99- 96 girl died in

3rd yr. is v rich now traveled overseas and helps none of his

brothers sons.

> drives them away if they come to him for guidence as he as to feed

them just 3 months ago helped one nephew strangely though, but sent

him away moment he got a job. he lived with us for 20 yrs earlier FREE.

>

> case 2m. 14-7-74, 23 54, Madras he is a tiwn the twin bro born 4

hrs later is mentally retarded as was not know the docs left and

later were called back to deliver the baby so is stunted child.

>

> so when we make satments the calssics or earler works have

material for us to see, use and tune it for our times not ridicule or

take a dfift at them....

>

> the course of Ganga has changed will change but Ganga remains

Ganga isn't it. [even with the pollution in it]

>

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: Dear Arjun ji

>

> I also feel that, we must look at guru / rahu with open mind and put

> it to test in real life examples.

>

> Ranjan ji has provided a thoughtful clue, as to why is it called yoga

> not arishta!!!

>

> If we extend the conjunction of guru / rahu to parashari; rahu is

> never defined as malefic planet. It is explicitly stated that - if

> rahu / ketu are in kendra / trikona and have relationship with yoga

> graha, they work as yogakarka; else they are malefic.

>

> For any two planets to work as positive combination, will require both

> of them to be positive for chart in question, and if one of is

> negative, then associated planet will also be affected negatively (so

> will be the house positioned in, aspected houses and so on). Hence,

> any two planets when are in conjunction, are capable of forming a

> positive yoga. Yes, the natural characteristics of planets may differ

> (sun / saturn, mars / saturn, rahu / guru etc) and this will not

> withhold the results (though means of the results may vary).

>

> If we extend the above rationale, then guru / rahu can be a positive

> planetary combination (even with the natural characteristic getting

> hammering or say "modified"). In my experience - rahu / guru (even

> when it voilates parashari definition) is good combination from

> materialistics perspective.

>

> Now look at jupiter / moon as gaj kesari yoga. Does it work as

> positive or negative? If you apply the above logic, in the charts -

> where moon/jupiter is dusthasthana lord - this yoga will bring

> negative results. Even for karka lagna natives, if guru is exalted

> with moon in lagna, will harm the native from health perspective.

> likewise, leo lagna, kumbha lagna and makara lagna natives, will not

> experience this yoga. unfortunately, instead of accepting the

> vulnerability of such combinations, we astrologers try to find some

> other overriding factors to justify its "non working". Since, I

> stopped readings charts 7 years back - my all chart datas are lying in

> backup files, it is not possible for me to post them now. But, all the

> above notes, are truly based upon the charts - I observed at some

> stage of my astological pursuance.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , "crystal pages" <rrgb@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji,

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Although, just to be cautious and pragmatic -- someone less

friendly

> > than you may look askance at my post and say that the original

'guru

> > chandal' was not written in the more permissive english (one letter

> > change gets the snake up on the sandal tree!) but sanskrit where

> > different sounds are involved, like the hard D and A in chandal

> > versus soft d and a in chandan :-)

> >

> > But it is not about semantics -- I say to the doom-sayers -- let

them

> > convince the wise assembly with examples if this is such a big

> > problem! And if it is indeed such a big problem -- why is it

called a

> > YOGA and not an ARISHTA?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear RR ji

> > >

> > > thanks for this new dimension. i liked this very much as i

> > > personally believe there is no guru chandal yoga at all. even

if a

> > > chandal comes in contact with a guru, the chandal also becomes a

> > > realised person and becomes a benefic. so guru chandal yoga

shall

> > > be treated as guru chandan yoga.

> > >

> > > in praise of planet guru as well as human guru as well as the

guru

> > > who is the guru of the devatas.

> > >

> > > pandit arjun

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > From what I have been reading about this yoga for many years in

> > > > forums like this, pros and cons generally not accompanied by

> > > charts

> > > > in true Jyotish *tradition* (pick any scripture all the way

up to

> > > the

> > > > 19th century, truth be told brutally!) I am beginning to wonder

> > if

> > > > with all the oral to written transliteration and language

changes

> > > and

> > > > all the dyslexias and careless tiping -- is it possible

(HORRORS!)

> > > >

> > > > That GURU CHANDAN YOGA

> > > > got mistyped into by some careless sage and became:

> > > >

> > > > GURU CHANDAL YOGA?

> > > >

> > > > We all know that those snakes, rahu and ketu really love to

live

> > > on

> > > > CHANDAN (SANDALWOOD) trees!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > (aka BAD BOY)

> > > >

> > > > , shashi shekhar

sharma

> > > > <polite_astro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > .HARE

> > RAM.

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > GURU- CHANDAL Yoga is quite dreadful Yoga but if it is

placed

> > > > merely in 6th house.It abolishes all the good effects of other

> > > > benefic Yogas.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > > > >

> > > > > tella <sarada_addepalli@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear lalkitab,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please advice me Whether

> > > > >

> > > > > these birth dates should do the donation for saturn or not

> > > > >

> > > > > june 11th 1988

> > > > > time is 20:24

> > > > > place of birth is Tenali

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that he has chandra mahardasa and saturn antardasa.

he in 12th

> > > > > grade please help.

> > > > >

> > > > > the second one

> > > > >

> > > > > june 7th 1958

> > > > > time is 00:50

> > > > > place is Tenali

> > > > > Please advice what do they have to donate.

> > > > > I know that he has Sani mahadasa

>

> > > > > Tella

>

> Prashantkumar G B

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May 26, 2006

Dear Mr. Kumar

I believe, each forum member has freedom to pursue their astrological

interests (e.g. I do not read charts, just pursue technical

discussions); and have strong belief that each one is free to

participate, to share their knowledge/experiences. It is after all, a

learning ground for many like me. It is not important, that who is

target; but the fact remains that, our forum member is target.

On this forum, let us not get into unwarranted personal attacks. We

all are here to puruse the common interest, and let us stick to that.

No one can assume the rights and responsibility to direct the thread

to suit his way of thinking. and there can not be any justifications

for such comments.

Coming to your questioning of the examples quoted, I could have

certainly participated. But, I will not do as part of contest to prove

the points here and there. and I hope, you do not have any problems

for my opinion on guru/moon combination (for my own experiences).

regards / Prafulla Gang

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar> wrote:

>

> Hi Prfulla,

> it is not u sure u got it isin't the target. I mane clearl the one

who dubbed Yoga arishta , chandal and Chandan....

> as eery topic there r numbers threads in bits for that source and

fortunately after soem dressing by several memenrs has written better

in last 2 months can prev yrs...! used to ridicule, `take a drift',

you never know from wherre my questiosn come..' etc r some of the

trademark lines

>

> WE NEED so called experts comment on subject, not their

autobiographies, or beating about the bush articels in installments.

>

> AND ABOUT WHAT U SAID ON DIFFERENT ASTROLOGERS USING DIFF METHODS,

AND ALSO the various elelments in a chart analysis

> WHY DOES THIS NOT APPLY TO THE very subject now u started Guru

Chandal Yoga itself or Gajakesari Yoga in Dusthanas

> my examples r there pl see them and tell me

> I DI DNOT GIVE ANY ASTRO BASED info other than lfie events for

them and also the combination in 6th and 12th Gajakesari yoga

> and hwo it can work in todays times for such people. they can get

good loans, generosu grnts from anyone.

> u can study the carts and let me know what u feel

>

> I PREFER ONLY READING CHARTS rarely I comment on such topics as

it was gooing too far stepped in u can c how many such threads u will

fine me or incharts...

>

> Good luck u r doing well though.

>

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions> wrote: Dear Mr Kumar

>

> I do not know, which astrologer member is your target in personal

> attacks. But Nothing is superficial; and if it is, who knows the

> utimate one??

>

> Yes, you are correct - yogas are planetary combinations under certain

> conditions and can be either good or bad for specific native

> (depending upon combination); that is why perhaps, sage parashar has

> not termed them as arishta.

>

> Yes, you are correct that rahu / guru can be less malefic or good, in

> current yuga. But it needs to be weighed for specific native. Is

not it?

>

> Moon/guru - I have seen not working for many charts..and who knows,

> what has been the reasons for the events - not necessarily the

> combinations you quoted (lots of overriding factors including aspects,

> associations, positioning, D charts, SAV etc). I know, planets in

> kendra from moon strengthen the moon; and so is the jupiter - but when

> we want to derive conclusive candidates, it may still not qualify.

>

> Most astrologers have their own way to read the event and very often

> many such event candidates supercede one another. So we must be open

> to evaluate the relevance thereof and work out the possibility to

> derive consistent application of astrological factors. I do not think,

> any one of us are rediculing the sages or their works. These works, in

> fact, are the basis of astrology; but can be subject to current yuga.

> We all have, at some or other, started with these books and modified

> as we learnt from fellow astrologers, our experiences and multiplicity

> of techniques.

>

> So, do not be judgemental on individuals; after all, we all are

> sharing our opinions and perspectives - and that too, based upon our

> own experiences. Let us comment on the astrological issues, instead of

> commenting on individuals. In my view, with all the differences (which

> is natural, understandable and acceptable)each astrologer's view must

> be respected (not necessarily agreed)- unless "someone" declares

> himself as ultimate authority and in that case, I am willing to learn

> from him without any arguments.

>

> Stay to the thread. One need not be so aggressive in attacking

> individuals - if the interpretations do not suit you.

>

> I too, have different opinions on many areas, but it has always been a

> learning ground from the experiences from others...

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Prafulla, pt arjun and others...

> >

> > It is strange that there is superificial interpration and/or

> understanding of the words and matter around now. I am no authority

> but hhwat little i had come across as i learn in lfie I know my past

> 25 yrs of work is v little distance covered in this field.

> >

> > THE sudden acceptence of Guru chandala yoga not arisha a as word

> >

> > NOW DARIDRA YOGA, VAMSA NASHA YOGA, ARISHTA YOGAS. Putrashokha

> yoga etc.

> >

> > these are names of some malefic yogas too

> > YOGA MEANS a combination good or bad, and its result is implied ni

> the name preceeding Yoga. and the threads r they serious or playful,

> whimsical efforts here i can't understand form the so called superman

> around who comments on every thread in bits every few secs can't have

> a crystalised way of presentign it.

> >

> > NOW I HAD ALSO SAID in current age it is less of a malefic, as

> being materialsitic is no sin today rather is ones prowess, acievemtn

> or success yardstick. unless ill-placed.

> >

> > NOW THE DATA here r some.

> >

> > 1-7-65, 00.32,Bangalore, male dark complesxion very well to do

> finincially v sound-rich but married just 2 yrs ago only son.

> >

> > same date 1-7-65, 23.32, 16 57 N, 82 57 E. female married in June

> 95, girl in 96 aug, son in apr 99, avg FINANCE at start worked, good

> looking part of a 6 member family, married into a well to do family.

> but with many adjustments issues threre betwen members there and

> within themselves.

> >

> > 20-7-65, 4.54 hr, 16 42 N, 81 06 E. 1st man to study beyond 10th

> did graduation , went outside village, state 1st man to build a

> concrete house, in village. went to US as a dependent and became the

> Boss of his wife. in 6 months.

> >

> > 18-11-68, 23.15 Hyd a Parsi male married a rich Tamil well to do

> tho but is doing great after marriage.

> > male, 1-12-57, 02.04, Hrs Madras a son of a great singer is a good

> dubbing artist, sings well no luck tho in that area.

> >

> > male 20-6-65, 06.1pm, Madras, well to do man solid resources

> gifted many friends money to build their houses from his earnings his

> father died when he was stuyding in the gas explosion in 1982 Delhi

> Asiad preprations in Hotel, even people who asked him some money got

> full cost say 20-45 laks each from him as gift no1 repays him nor see

> him later. is not married has no plasn to, wants to live as he wants

> not at women's dictates now has just a companion a greek women i

think.

> > ***

> > about GAJAKESARI YOGA in dusthans question it works still

> > if in Kendras u get it royally if in dusthana u get it from some1

> not ur own earned

> >

> > case 1M 27-9-62, 18.11 hrs, 17 27 N, 82 35 E. he lived like a

> prince as his 5 elder brothers funded what he like all his life. wore

> the most expensive clothes for 11 months thrrew it, got new ones.

> > now after marriage in 95, a gril in 96, and 99- 96 girl died in

> 3rd yr. is v rich now traveled overseas and helps none of his

> brothers sons.

> > drives them away if they come to him for guidence as he as to feed

> them just 3 months ago helped one nephew strangely though, but sent

> him away moment he got a job. he lived with us for 20 yrs earlier

FREE.

> >

> > case 2m. 14-7-74, 23 54, Madras he is a tiwn the twin bro born 4

> hrs later is mentally retarded as was not know the docs left and

> later were called back to deliver the baby so is stunted child.

> >

> > so when we make satments the calssics or earler works have

> material for us to see, use and tune it for our times not ridicule or

> take a dfift at them....

> >

> > the course of Ganga has changed will change but Ganga remains

> Ganga isn't it. [even with the pollution in it]

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: Dear Arjun ji

> >

> > I also feel that, we must look at guru / rahu with open mind

and put

> > it to test in real life examples.

> >

> > Ranjan ji has provided a thoughtful clue, as to why is it

called yoga

> > not arishta!!!

> >

> > If we extend the conjunction of guru / rahu to parashari; rahu is

> > never defined as malefic planet. It is explicitly stated that - if

> > rahu / ketu are in kendra / trikona and have relationship with

yoga

> > graha, they work as yogakarka; else they are malefic.

> >

> > For any two planets to work as positive combination, will

require both

> > of them to be positive for chart in question, and if one of is

> > negative, then associated planet will also be affected

negatively (so

> > will be the house positioned in, aspected houses and so on).

Hence,

> > any two planets when are in conjunction, are capable of forming a

> > positive yoga. Yes, the natural characteristics of planets may

differ

> > (sun / saturn, mars / saturn, rahu / guru etc) and this will not

> > withhold the results (though means of the results may vary).

> >

> > If we extend the above rationale, then guru / rahu can be a

positive

> > planetary combination (even with the natural characteristic

getting

> > hammering or say "modified"). In my experience - rahu / guru (even

> > when it voilates parashari definition) is good combination from

> > materialistics perspective.

> >

> > Now look at jupiter / moon as gaj kesari yoga. Does it work as

> > positive or negative? If you apply the above logic, in the

charts -

> > where moon/jupiter is dusthasthana lord - this yoga will bring

> > negative results. Even for karka lagna natives, if guru is exalted

> > with moon in lagna, will harm the native from health perspective.

> > likewise, leo lagna, kumbha lagna and makara lagna natives,

will not

> > experience this yoga. unfortunately, instead of accepting the

> > vulnerability of such combinations, we astrologers try to find

some

> > other overriding factors to justify its "non working". Since, I

> > stopped readings charts 7 years back - my all chart datas are

lying in

> > backup files, it is not possible for me to post them now. But,

all the

> > above notes, are truly based upon the charts - I observed at some

> > stage of my astological pursuance.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Although, just to be cautious and pragmatic -- someone less

> friendly

> > > than you may look askance at my post and say that the original

> 'guru

> > > chandal' was not written in the more permissive english (one

letter

> > > change gets the snake up on the sandal tree!) but sanskrit

where

> > > different sounds are involved, like the hard D and A in chandal

> > > versus soft d and a in chandan :-)

> > >

> > > But it is not about semantics -- I say to the doom-sayers -- let

> them

> > > convince the wise assembly with examples if this is such a big

> > > problem! And if it is indeed such a big problem -- why is it

> called a

> > > YOGA and not an ARISHTA?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear RR ji

> > > >

> > > > thanks for this new dimension. i liked this very much as i

> > > > personally believe there is no guru chandal yoga at all. even

> if a

> > > > chandal comes in contact with a guru, the chandal also

becomes a

> > > > realised person and becomes a benefic. so guru chandal yoga

> shall

> > > > be treated as guru chandan yoga.

> > > >

> > > > in praise of planet guru as well as human guru as well as the

> guru

> > > > who is the guru of the devatas.

> > > >

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

<rrgb@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > From what I have been reading about this yoga for many

years in

> > > > > forums like this, pros and cons generally not

accompanied by

> > > > charts

> > > > > in true Jyotish *tradition* (pick any scripture all the way

> up to

> > > > the

> > > > > 19th century, truth be told brutally!) I am beginning to

wonder

> > > if

> > > > > with all the oral to written transliteration and language

> changes

> > > > and

> > > > > all the dyslexias and careless tiping -- is it possible

> (HORRORS!)

> > > > >

> > > > > That GURU CHANDAN YOGA

> > > > > got mistyped into by some careless sage and became:

> > > > >

> > > > > GURU CHANDAL YOGA?

> > > > >

> > > > > We all know that those snakes, rahu and ketu really love to

> live

> > > > on

> > > > > CHANDAN (SANDALWOOD) trees!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > (aka BAD BOY)

> > > > >

> > > > > , shashi shekhar

> sharma

> > > > > <polite_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > >

.HARE

> > > RAM.

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > GURU- CHANDAL Yoga is quite dreadful Yoga but if it is

> placed

> > > > > merely in 6th house.It abolishes all the good effects of

other

> > > > > benefic Yogas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tella <sarada_addepalli@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear lalkitab,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advice me Whether

> > > > > >

> > > > > > these birth dates should do the donation for saturn or not

> > > > > >

> > > > > > june 11th 1988

> > > > > > time is 20:24

> > > > > > place of birth is Tenali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know that he has chandra mahardasa and saturn antardasa.

> he in 12th

> > > > > > grade please help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the second one

> > > > > >

> > > > > > june 7th 1958

> > > > > > time is 00:50

> > > > > > place is Tenali

> > > > > > Please advice what do they have to donate.

> > > > > > I know that he has Sani mahadasa

> >

> > > > > > Tella

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

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> > Please fix times for this in advance -*-

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