Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is capable of anything. Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with me someone would have to establish that they are worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great a way to look at people or life with always a suspicion at the back of u'r mind. Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. I thought this made one work and work and work. Which is all we do. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity with ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived your sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator of self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and let us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there since you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You have a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated since costs could be high. Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations bring a natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In your case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I hope, even if they appear so at times :-) It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when the planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is moon or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even more for the same effort! It is all in the perception. Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than the 'constantly on guard' position! RR , <> wrote: > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > capable of anything. > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > me someone would have to establish that they are > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > a way to look at people or life with always a > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > is all we do. > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hi i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived by the most trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps of friends but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to them . saturn is also lagnesh to me too 10th march 1974 bombay 06:30am regards Prashu On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity with > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived your > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator of > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and let > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there since > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You have > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > since costs could be high. > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations bring a > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In your > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I hope, > even if they appear so at times :-) > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when the > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is moon > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even more > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > RR > > , > <> wrote: > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > capable of anything. > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Doshi ji, Excuse me? You have heaps of friends that you cannot trust? Why are you publicly calling them *friends*, then? This sounds like a really complicated case! I will let the experts from the "bhava" vs 'rashi' camp take over the astrology ER. , "Prashant Doshi" <prashuastro> wrote: > > Hi > > i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived by the most > trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps of friends > but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to them . > > saturn is also lagnesh to me too > > 10th march 1974 > bombay 06:30am > > regards > > Prashu > > On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb> wrote: > > > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity with > > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived your > > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator of > > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the > > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and let > > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a > > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there since > > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You have > > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > > since costs could be high. > > > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations bring a > > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In your > > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I hope, > > even if they appear so at times :-) > > > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one > > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when the > > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is moon > > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even more > > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up > > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > > > RR > > > > , > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > > capable of anything. > > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 ketu is more of surgical in nature. It is really interesting to watch it, if giving hidden results (deceit, treason, distrust etc). Does not ketu create a inbuilt sacrifice at subconscious level for the events / persons etc. regards / Prafulla , "Prashant Doshi" <prashuastro> wrote: > > Hi > > i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived by the most > trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps of friends > but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to them . > > saturn is also lagnesh to me too > > 10th march 1974 > bombay 06:30am > > regards > > Prashu > > On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb> wrote: > > > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity with > > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived your > > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator of > > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the > > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and let > > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a > > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there since > > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You have > > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > > since costs could be high. > > > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations bring a > > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In your > > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I hope, > > even if they appear so at times :-) > > > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one > > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when the > > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is moon > > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even more > > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up > > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > > > RR > > > > , > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > > capable of anything. > > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 dear Crystal ji, yes i call them friends becuase they are friends only , and not my best friend whom u can expect things , or i can say default friends.I have exp in my friendship where people have stop talking or stop been in touch for no reason. In short , now i cannot trust any one ,just for my safe guard, i dont hurt any one , nor do i have any grudge on any one , but the only thing is that it take heaps a lot more time for me to trust any one. cheers Prashu On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: > > Doshi ji, > > Excuse me? You have heaps of friends that you cannot trust? Why are > you publicly calling them *friends*, then? > > This sounds like a really complicated case! I will let the experts > from the "bhava" vs 'rashi' camp take over the astrology ER. > > > , "Prashant Doshi" > <prashuastro> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived by > the most > > trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps > of friends > > but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to them . > > > > saturn is also lagnesh to me too > > > > 10th march 1974 > > bombay 06:30am > > > > regards > > > > Prashu > > > > On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb> wrote: > > > > > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity > with > > > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived > your > > > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > > > > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator > of > > > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the > > > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and > let > > > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a > > > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there > since > > > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You > have > > > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > > > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > > > since costs could be high. > > > > > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations > bring a > > > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In > your > > > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I > hope, > > > even if they appear so at times :-) > > > > > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one > > > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when > the > > > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is > moon > > > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even > more > > > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > > > > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > > > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > > > > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up > > > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > > > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > > > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > > > capable of anything. > > > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Prafulla, I like your analogy about ketu and surgery! Ketu is afterall "like mars" as astrologer-poet-sages stated (It is interesting how all ancient astrology text had been written in verse!). Unlike mars, though ketu probably comes with the anaesthesia built- in. The pain does get felt but much later :-) and perhaps much less than it would have been felt at the time of surgery without the numbing of senses, like the pain that mars produces! RR , "Prafulla Gang" <ripra_solutions> wrote: > > ketu is more of surgical in nature. It is really interesting to watch > it, if giving hidden results (deceit, treason, distrust etc). Does not > ketu create a inbuilt sacrifice at subconscious level for the events / > persons etc. > > regards / Prafulla > > , "Prashant Doshi" > <prashuastro@> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived by > the most > > trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps of > friends > > but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to them . > > > > saturn is also lagnesh to me too > > > > 10th march 1974 > > bombay 06:30am > > > > regards > > > > Prashu > > > > On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb@> wrote: > > > > > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity with > > > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) deceived your > > > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > > > > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural indicator of > > > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in the > > > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception and let > > > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would be a > > > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there since > > > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. You have > > > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > > > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > > > since costs could be high. > > > > > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations bring a > > > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In your > > > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I hope, > > > even if they appear so at times :-) > > > > > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make one > > > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful when the > > > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it is moon > > > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even more > > > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > > > > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > > > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > > > > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard up > > > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > > > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > > > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > > > capable of anything. > > > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear Ranjan ji OK..I understood now.. I observed, ketu also rendering conclusive / speedier solution (whatever means) for the issues involved in - may be withdrawl (sacrifice), conclusive fight to resolve etc. It will not normally drag the issue. Lal kitab has interesting analogy to mars + ketu in third house - dog like lion. Afflicting ketu is often reflected in terms of pain in the feet (self or of son), spitting while talking etc (lal kitab). I too observed this in many cases. Surprisingly, if a disease / injury is caused by ketu - (aspect / period), it gets cured very quickly (unlike when caused by rahu / shani). Few doctors (I know), watch ketu too for conducting surgery as well, for speediest recovery. Of course, this got to be read with other planetary combinations / dasha bhukti etc. regards / Prafulla , "crystal pages" <rrgb> wrote: > > Prafulla, > > I like your analogy about ketu and surgery! Ketu is afterall "like > mars" as astrologer-poet-sages stated (It is interesting how all > ancient astrology text had been written in verse!). > > Unlike mars, though ketu probably comes with the anaesthesia built- > in. The pain does get felt but much later :-) and perhaps much less > than it would have been felt at the time of surgery without the > numbing of senses, like the pain that mars produces! > > RR > > > > > , "Prafulla Gang" > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > ketu is more of surgical in nature. It is really interesting to > watch > > it, if giving hidden results (deceit, treason, distrust etc). Does > not > > ketu create a inbuilt sacrifice at subconscious level for the > events / > > persons etc. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > , "Prashant Doshi" > > <prashuastro@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > i have saturn and ketu in the fifith , i have also been decived > by > > the most > > > trusted one , now i also dont trust any one , though i have heaps > of > > friends > > > but dont trust any one , nor talk anything personal or imp to > them . > > > > > > saturn is also lagnesh to me too > > > > > > 10th march 1974 > > > bombay 06:30am > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Prashu > > > > > > On 5/23/06, crystal pages <rrgb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Very interesting! Assuming that this postulate that a nativity > with > > > > ketu in 6th always gets (has high probability of being) > deceived your > > > > sharing this personal experience adds a very interesting layer. > > > > > > > > Obviously saturn is not only lagnesh but also a natural > indicator of > > > > self-discipline and niyama in general (2nd lord) and placed in > the > > > > 6th with ketu makes <you> always on the lookout for deception > and let > > > > us just say it, makes you a micromanager. To most, this would > be a > > > > big stress, always in the suspicious mode, but ketu helps there > since > > > > you have learned the mistrust through intuitive experiences. > You have > > > > a 'nose' for other people's mistakes. This makes you a very good > > > > editor or manager in operations where errors cannot be tolerated > > > > since costs could be high. > > > > > > > > Nodes when they associate with lagnesha in certain situations > bring a > > > > natural flair for benefitting from their house of occupancy. In > your > > > > case, it is subordinates and enemies (not one and the same, I > hope, > > > > even if they appear so at times :-) > > > > > > > > It is not just saturn, but lagnesh in 6th always tends to make > one > > > > work more than others for the same gains. It is less painful > when the > > > > planet involved are saturn and mars (with a node) but when it > is moon > > > > or venus (soft, luxury loving planets) the burden is felt even > more > > > > for the same effort! It is all in the perception. > > > > > > > > Having gemini in 6th is an advantage because you would tend to > > > > rationalize and pragmatize things and efforts and that helps. > > > > > > > > Based on dasha and transits, you may not have to keep the guard > up > > > > all the time, although it becomes a habit pretty soon and doing > > > > anything differently causes more anxiety and anguish than > > > > the 'constantly on guard' position! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have Sat+Ketu in 6th house in Gemini. > > > > > As far as being cheated by those trusted most..i'm not > > > > > aware as my biggest flaw in personality is I never > > > > > trust anyone and/or/either believe that anyone is > > > > > capable of anything. > > > > > Most people would trust till they are betrayed, with > > > > > me someone would have to establish that they are > > > > > worthy of trust. A huge problem as its not that great > > > > > a way to look at people or life with always a > > > > > suspicion at the back of u'r mind. > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally my husband also has Sat in 6th. > > > > > I thought this made one work and work and work. Which > > > > > is all we do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE > > > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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