Guru Chandaal Yog .........Let us Re Think

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I agree and to the fact that, we need to rework on karkatava

(specially relating to worldly affairs) in modern dynamics.

 

I have yet to discover on role of rahu (beyond being karmic planets

and as defined in books). In my limited experience - guru (though a

somya graha - indicator of many positive results) does not work as

dhana karaka.

 

BTW - IT industry is governed not only by rahu, but a blend of saturn,

venus and budha (the second group of all natural friends) - rahu /

ketu being extension of shani- also form the part of it. The other

planetary group - sun, moon, mars and jupiter has no significant role

in technology.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

 

vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

>

> Friends,

> And if I remember right,

> Maharshi Parashar has written,

> If there third and 6th house has malefics/Krur planets from Aroodh

Lagna, the person becomes wealthy.

>

> Prafulla ji, I have always seen that Guru tends to thrive in a

house after sucking it out .

> In second house, he , in what I have seen sofar, gives a lot of

financial crisis in native's life. A long time back I gave a lot of

examples in this forum posting under Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva heading.

>

> IMHO., we need to take a fresher and closer look at Karakatwa of

planets.

> Today, Rahu is the planet that rules Computers. Rahu means wealth.

> Jupiter means a teacher and see where teachers are today?

>

> It is futile to mold ones understanding based on scriptures and go

by the book.

> Everything in this universe is changing. So naturally the roles of

planets also change. What was a chandal 3000 years back, is a computer

engineer today.

> What was a Guru then is a primary school teacher today.

> What was King then, is an Upper division cleark today.

> Let us be practical and scale down the attributes of planets to

realty level.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

 

 

> Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions wrote:

> Dear Ranjan ji

>

> Yes, I never disagree of the role of benefic Guru (and enjoy too with

> exalted guru in my chart as well).

>

> In fact, my contention was never against role of planet Guru (as the

> thread might appear). I was just quesioning (probably dragged it

> little further than required), if it works as dhana karka in the

> current age.

>

> Jupiter is certainly a somya planet and if benefic for a chart, will

> bless with good things (e.g. its karkatavs - good children, eternal

> peace, content life, religious pursuits, good karmic pursuits in this

> life and satvik approach etc). And also do agree that not necessarily

> "wealth" (as may be provided by other planets) can provide such nice

> contentment.

>

> regards / Prafulla

>

> vedic astrology, "crystal pages"

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > Many years ago, when I was a teenager, I had a friend Suresh. He was

> > born a vaishya (went on to become a lawyer) but he was one who was

> > raised on scriptures. His father (also a lawyer and a vrishchika

> > lagna) had the most extensive library of hindu scriptures and many

> > other books from all cultures.

> >

> > Suresh, a dhanu with moon in eighth and jupiter in kumbha and sun in

> > mesha who was the main reason that I stayed on in jyotish (Thanks

> > Suresh!) taught me a big lesson when this jupitarian once during our

> > regular discussions stated: People ask for wealth, for health, for

> > beautiful brides and healthy and famous children. If God comes to me,

> > Ranjan, I will just ask for absolute and permanent contentment,

> > eternal santosh!"

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> > <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Souvik

> > >

> > > Jupiter is not a bad planet; in fact no planet is a bad planet, if

> > > they are respresented by gods / symbolic attributes. It is their

> > > respective role for a chart / event, which is being discussed in

> > > relative context.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is satvik planet, blesses with knowledge etc..all fine, but

> > is

> > > it a main candidate for worldly pursuits. Very often, when we find

> > > jupiter not giving "desired" results, we find some overlapping

> > factor

> > > (if jupiter is most benefic for dhana related results, how can it be

> > > working in reverse direction, by any minor influences) and likewise,

> > > when jupiter is seem to be giving benefic results, we often ignore

> > > other key significators. In modern age - wealth flows from

> > technology,

> > > industry, war, commerce etc, and none of them are represented

> > by "dhan

> > > karka Jupiter". Even in old days, wealth used to flow from wars (one

> > > kingdom winning another kingdom) and commerce - again not

> > represented

> > > by jupiter.

> > >

> > > Rahu / Ketu has never been depicted even by Parashar as outright

> > > ashubha planet (though may be cruel). They work as yoga graha - if

> > > associated with a yoga karka planet (for specific native) in

> > kendra /

> > > trikona. and if not so, they are ashubha.

> > >

> > > These two planets are considered as karmic planets as well (and

> > their

> > > dispositors - karmic controlling planets). It is beautifully

> > explained

> > > by Late Shri Manik Chand Jain in his two books. The fact (no matter,

> > > what we assume) remains that our birth is result of past karmas.

> > >

> > > Many may not agree for even ketu's potential of big wordly success

> > in

> > > dasha / bhukti, but with the above definition, it is observed to be

> > > giving good results.

> > >

> > > In old days, wealth never used to individualistic, but collective

> > for

> > > kingdom or family. Jupiter being karka of family, might have been

> > made

> > > dhan karka then? and based upon family status only, individual was

> > > considered wealthy or poor. Jupiter is also karka of status, for the

> > > simple fact that those days, knowledge used to be blessed by royal

> > > favours.

> > >

> > > Please do not construe that, i am against jupiter. I am just

> > > requesting to relook into planetary significators in current age and

> > > find a rational conclusion.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta"

> > > <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected member,

> > > >

> > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of this poor fellow

> > > > called Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in the 7th. House

> > is

> > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow does have some

> > > > really good things to offer as well.

> > > >

> > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but inspite of what

> > it

> > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its implications

> > to

> > > > Rahu.

> > > >

> > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the route of Jupiter

> > and

> > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good in terms per

> > say.

> > > >

> > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated Capitalist(Jup)

> > mentality

> > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the fact that there

> > is

> > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in either theories.

> > > >

> > > > That is how the world is.

> > > >

> > > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist council- now

> > that

> > > > is definitely an issue.

> > > >

> > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just that the

> > > > combination is not the best of things to happen individually.

> > > >

> > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a completely

> > > > different turn.

> > > >

> > > > BTW, I have this yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Souvik

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates Truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced and destroyer

> > of

> > > > the place he occupies.

> > > > >

> > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi mein Chhed

> > Karta

> > > > Hai.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

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