Guru Chandaal Yog .........Let us Re Think

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Friends,

And if I remember right,

Maharshi Parashar has written,

If there third and 6th house has malefics/Krur planets from Aroodh Lagna, the person becomes wealthy.

Prafulla ji, I have always seen that Guru tends to thrive in a house after sucking it out .

In second house, he , in what I have seen sofar, gives a lot of financial crisis in native's life. A long time back I gave a lot of examples in this forum posting under Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva heading.

IMHO., we need to take a fresher and closer look at Karakatwa of planets.

Today, Rahu is the planet that rules Computers. Rahu means wealth.

Jupiter means a teacher and see where teachers are today?

It is futile to mold ones understanding based on scriptures and go by the book.

Everything in this universe is changing. So naturally the roles of planets also change. What was a chandal 3000 years back, is a computer engineer today.

What was a Guru then is a primary school teacher today.

What was King then, is an Upper division cleark today.

Let us be practical and scale down the attributes of planets to realty level.

Tatvam-Asi

 

Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote:

Dear Ranjan ji

 

Yes, I never disagree of the role of benefic Guru (and enjoy too with

exalted guru in my chart as well).

 

In fact, my contention was never against role of planet Guru (as the

thread might appear). I was just quesioning (probably dragged it

little further than required), if it works as dhana karka in the

current age.

 

Jupiter is certainly a somya planet and if benefic for a chart, will

bless with good things (e.g. its karkatavs - good children, eternal

peace, content life, religious pursuits, good karmic pursuits in this

life and satvik approach etc). And also do agree that not necessarily

"wealth" (as may be provided by other planets) can provide such nice

contentment.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

vedic astrology, "crystal pages"

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> Many years ago, when I was a teenager, I had a friend Suresh. He was

> born a vaishya (went on to become a lawyer) but he was one who was

> raised on scriptures. His father (also a lawyer and a vrishchika

> lagna) had the most extensive library of hindu scriptures and many

> other books from all cultures.

>

> Suresh, a dhanu with moon in eighth and jupiter in kumbha and sun in

> mesha who was the main reason that I stayed on in jyotish (Thanks

> Suresh!) taught me a big lesson when this jupitarian once during our

> regular discussions stated: People ask for wealth, for health, for

> beautiful brides and healthy and famous children. If God comes to me,

> Ranjan, I will just ask for absolute and permanent contentment,

> eternal santosh!"

>

> RR

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Souvik

> >

> > Jupiter is not a bad planet; in fact no planet is a bad planet, if

> > they are respresented by gods / symbolic attributes. It is their

> > respective role for a chart / event, which is being discussed in

> > relative context.

> >

> > Jupiter is satvik planet, blesses with knowledge etc..all fine, but

> is

> > it a main candidate for worldly pursuits. Very often, when we find

> > jupiter not giving "desired" results, we find some overlapping

> factor

> > (if jupiter is most benefic for dhana related results, how can it be

> > working in reverse direction, by any minor influences) and likewise,

> > when jupiter is seem to be giving benefic results, we often ignore

> > other key significators. In modern age - wealth flows from

> technology,

> > industry, war, commerce etc, and none of them are represented

> by "dhan

> > karka Jupiter". Even in old days, wealth used to flow from wars (one

> > kingdom winning another kingdom) and commerce - again not

> represented

> > by jupiter.

> >

> > Rahu / Ketu has never been depicted even by Parashar as outright

> > ashubha planet (though may be cruel). They work as yoga graha - if

> > associated with a yoga karka planet (for specific native) in

> kendra /

> > trikona. and if not so, they are ashubha.

> >

> > These two planets are considered as karmic planets as well (and

> their

> > dispositors - karmic controlling planets). It is beautifully

> explained

> > by Late Shri Manik Chand Jain in his two books. The fact (no matter,

> > what we assume) remains that our birth is result of past karmas.

> >

> > Many may not agree for even ketu's potential of big wordly success

> in

> > dasha / bhukti, but with the above definition, it is observed to be

> > giving good results.

> >

> > In old days, wealth never used to individualistic, but collective

> for

> > kingdom or family. Jupiter being karka of family, might have been

> made

> > dhan karka then? and based upon family status only, individual was

> > considered wealthy or poor. Jupiter is also karka of status, for the

> > simple fact that those days, knowledge used to be blessed by royal

> > favours.

> >

> > Please do not construe that, i am against jupiter. I am just

> > requesting to relook into planetary significators in current age and

> > find a rational conclusion.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta"

> > <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected member,

> > >

> > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of this poor fellow

> > > called Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in the 7th. House

> is

> > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow does have some

> > > really good things to offer as well.

> > >

> > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but inspite of what

> it

> > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its implications

> to

> > > Rahu.

> > >

> > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the route of Jupiter

> and

> > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good in terms per

> say.

> > >

> > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated Capitalist(Jup)

> mentality

> > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the fact that there

> is

> > > no good in either or that there are no faults in either theories.

> > >

> > > That is how the world is.

> > >

> > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist council- now

> that

> > > is definitely an issue.

> > >

> > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just that the

> > > combination is not the best of things to happen individually.

> > >

> > > However, when you take lordships this may take a completely

> > > different turn.

> > >

> > > BTW, I have this yoga.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Souvik

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ?

> > > >

> > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates Truth.

> > > >

> > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced and destroyer

> of

> > > the place he occupies.

> > > >

> > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi mein Chhed

> Karta

> > > Hai.

> > > >

> > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

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