Renunciation and Spirituality - - -

May 23, 2006

Jesus preached wonderful knowledge. The ordinary fishermen were convinced and followed Him as the Lord. The priests of church were great saints who were unmarried and left everything for the sake of God. Those priests were certainly higher than ordinary people. The ordinary people followed Jesus because they were convinced in their minds, intelligence and consciousness. They clarified their doubts with Jesus directly and were convinced. This is called as Atma Pramanam. These ordinary people did not look for the voting of the priests to Jesus. Infact, the priests opposed Jesus and crucified Him. Inspite of that, the ordinary people followed Jesus since they were convinced. A priest has left everything for the sake of God. No doubt they are greater people since they have greater urge. The greater urge itself cannot qualify any person. A student may have a greater urge for the answer but he might have not understood the answer given by the teacher. Another student might have

not so much urge but has understood the answer. Between these two students who is greater? Janaka was a king and did not leave the kingdom. Suka was a saint and left everything with extreme urge for God. Sage Vyasa appointed Janaka as examiner of Suka. Who is greater between these two? Though Janaka was a householder and did not leave anything, he is the student with answer. Suka is a saint who left everything and got answer from Janaka only. Quest is appreciable but cannot be the qualification. Capacity to understand the answer lies with the internal mental development (Samskara).

The external orange robe, the quest for God, leaving everything and roaming every where, attaining a post of Pithadhipati, studying scriptures by tradition etc., are certainly appreciable but are not the qualifications of greatness. A student may be in the uniform dress. He may have lot of urge to get the knowledge. He might have left his house and roamed from school to school. He might have become a teacher of a school. He might have studied the course according to discipline. He might have memorized and got through the examination and He might have thus got the degree and became the teacher. But still his doubts in the subject were not answered. Einstein and Ramanujam did not get a pass and could not get the degree. But they have perfectly understood the subject. Therefore, attainment lies in their internal samskaras and attaining the real preacher. Both the samskaras and Guru (Preacher) are important for the attainment and not the other points. Both the pearl shell and

the rain drop are essential for the formation of a pearl. Except these two, all the other factors are ephemeral only. You should judge anything by yourself and in association with others through discussions and debates. In coming to the conclusion you can take the help of the discussions with others. But you should use your own intelligence and consciousness in final conclusion. In this way the participation of others is helpful. But to see whether somebody lifted his hand or not for voting is a point is foolishness. You can discuss with him about the point. You should lift your hand based on your final conclusion. Even a clever person may go wrong in that particular point. Your vote should not depend on his vote.

A householder might have followed Swami today after a long discussion. Is he not the same Mandana Misra internally as well as externally? He is Mandana Misra internally because he decided based on the personal discussion with Swami. He is also Mandana Misra in the external dress of this time related to a householder. He is certainly Mandana Misra because he decided himself based on the long debate but did not look for the vote of other persons. Mandana Misra did not enquire whether a Pithathipati or saint debated with Sankara or not before following Sankara. His decision is not based on the vote of a second person. Mandana Misra never enquired about such information before coming to the conclusion. His conclusion was based on the answers given by Sankara to his points. When Mandana Misra was convinced by himself, he followed Sankara. But there were other scholars also who were convinced by Sankara and did not follow Sankara whether they were Saints or householders. The

degree of samskaras, jealousy and egoism varies in the people whether they are saints or householders. A householder may have greater samskara and lesser egoism. When he is convinced he can become the follower.

A saint may have lower samskara and even if he is convinced, he may not become the follower. Based on the degree of egoism the results vary. Somebody may not be convinced at all due to the mental rigidity. Some one may be convinced but appreciates in his mind only because of higher egoism. Some one may express the appreciation to a few people only. Some one may express the appreciation to several people. Some one may desire to appreciate before the entire world and may become the follower to propagate the knowledge. All this depends upon the degree of samskaras and the degree of egoism, whether he is a saint or a householder. A saint-Pithadhipati may appreciate in his mind only due to higher egoism. The sanyasa cannot be the indication of the internal Samskara. Since a student left his house and stays in the hostel for attaining the knowledge, you cannot say that he became the scholar. A day-scholar coming from his house to the college every day without leaving the house

may become the scholar. Some householder appreciated in mind and also expressed to his circle and also gave in writing as certificate. That is a lesser degree of egoism. Some one might have come forward to propagate his appreciation to the entire world, which shows the least degree of egoism. Now in all these three cases, Swami is the common preacher. The rain drop is the same. In the sea it has become salt water, in the river it has become drinking water and in the pearl shell it has become the pearl. The saint was the sea, the scholar who gave the certificate is the river and that devotee is the pearl shell. Before becoming the pearl, the pearl shell did not enquire about the fate of the raindrop in the sea and in the river. Since the raindrop did not become pearl in sea and river, did the pearl formation was effected by the point?

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

surya

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