Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Om Namah Sivaya “Everyone is going toward God. They will all realize Him if they have sincerity and longing of heart.” -----Sri Ramakrishna Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular Verse 1531 : Formal Faiths know not God Within He hides in your heart Yet does He pervade all; He is the Munificent One; The Lord Supreme; Of austere penance He is seated on the lotus of our hearts; The cunning Master-Thief In stealth enters this hollow abode of human flesh And then leave it; None knows His deep design . Verse 1539 : To Attain the Supreme Goal Those who are assailed by doubts And those who are freed from doubts When together commingle, Drive the wild beasts of Karma twain to caves, And persevere in the pursuit Then shall the Supreme Goal be reached They that are rid of the terrors of the wild Shall see the Path that to Para leads. Verse 1541 : The End of Seeking To be born and to live again and again here below, Verily is the curse of all; It is the seed of Karma twain; If you but listen to Him that knows The origin of swirl that is birth and death, No more shall you seek The ways of the perishing men. Sivaya Namah Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Selvakumar - Namaste. It has been a long time. > > The origin of swirl that is birth and death, Janma and Mrityu are a swirling phenomena. Pl. allow me to write/swirl a few. Imagine a jatak who is totally untrained and unprepared to die and say were to die in a state of great anxiety and bewilderment. Desperately holding on to the solide state of "I" he panics, for the basis of this "Aham" identity, the shareera itself begins to disintegrate. In other words the prithvi tatva begins to disintegrate and the jala tatva begins to grow stronger. The manah now is filled with a silver blue mirage. One now feels trapped and suffocated. Then what happens? The jala tatva now sinks into the agni counterpart and a "swirl" of smoke appears in the rashi of makara where kali mata enjoys the consumption. As the agni tatva dissolutes, the shareera becomes to grow cooler and a deepawali emerges like the crackling sparks over burning agni on a starry ratri. Finally the vayu tatva dissolves as the breathing begins to grow more shallow and one feels like a leaf floating in the wind - a vision of a dying flame in a dark room. As it normally happens with a dying flame there is a sudden burst, a last effort as the flame grows brighter and explodes into a final burst of energy and dies out. To the outer one appears to be dead. This is the Arudha. In fact the Arudha is the Shareera who's karaka is the Moon. is it not? But one has still not attained mrityu. The 4 gross tatvas and the conceptual manahs associated with them are no more but there are sitll subtler levels of consciousness to be absorbed. In other words the subtle white drop recieved by pitama at conception is located at the top of the sahasrara (the fontanel) and the red drop received from Mother is located at the navel come towards each other to eventually meet at the hridaya (the 4th bhava in jyotish shastra). As the white drop descends one perceives akaasha and as the red drop rises pervaded by redness. The two drops meet enclosing the fundamental consciousness and the experience is pitch black darkness. This darkness goes to complete pitch dark as one falls into total consciousness (the merger of the two drops). But still this is not the antya. Within this spherical enclosure where the two drops meet resides the very subtle consciousness. Even for an unattianed person after about 3 days the sphere opens and the manah is illuminated. This infinite clarity of light is the last and most subtle of all states of consciousness experienced in ones lifetime - "the jyoti in jyotisha". For the ordinary thse absoprtions are uncontrolled. For those who are trained tapaswis and have experienced nirvikalpa maintain clear awareness during this dissolution and awakening. There is a vast difference between the two (the state of awareness being the difference). Because of this awareness the fear factor is no more. For such a tapaswi as he floats above satya loka on the bindu of chandra this arising of clear light with shunyata is an experience of inexpressable bliss. For such a person death is actually a new life - adwaita. This experience cannot be described in words. Can shabda talk about nishabda? More Later. With Best Wishes, SVC , Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk> wrote: > > Om Namah Sivaya > "Everyone is going toward God. They will all realize Him if they have sincerity and longing of heart." > > -----Sri Ramakrishna > > Tirumantiram by Rishi Tirumular > > Verse 1531 : Formal Faiths know not God Within > > He hides in your heart > Yet does He pervade all; > He is the Munificent One; > The Lord Supreme; > Of austere penance > He is seated on the lotus of our hearts; > The cunning Master-Thief > In stealth enters this hollow abode of human flesh > And then leave it; > None knows His deep design . > > Verse 1539 : To Attain the Supreme Goal > > Those who are assailed by doubts > And those who are freed from doubts > When together commingle, > Drive the wild beasts of Karma twain to caves, > And persevere in the pursuit > Then shall the Supreme Goal be reached > They that are rid of the terrors of the wild > Shall see the Path that to Para leads. > > Verse 1541 : The End of Seeking > > To be born and to live again and again here below, > Verily is the curse of all; > It is the seed of Karma twain; > If you but listen to Him that knows > The origin of swirl that is birth and death, > No more shall you seek > The ways of the perishing men. > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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