order for application of Udu dasa II question

***

_____

[] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

22 May 2006 10:03

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Vijay,

Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are badly

placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna is

strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i

remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check this

events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra nakshatra

should also work..

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Vijay Goel <goyalvj >

Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

-

Vijay Goel <goyalvj >

Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Learned members,

In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

Thanks

Vijay Goel

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

May 22, 2006

vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Guruji,

Yes I know where it is but in place where I am I dont have book to see this...but anyway Shastihayani..as we said.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, May 22, 2006 10:24 AM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rafal, Namaskar

The order is clearly given:

1.. Astottari (ke)

2.. Shodashottari (ra)

3.. Dvadasottari (ve)

4.. Pancottari (lg)

5.. Satabdika (lg)

6.. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

7.. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

8.. Shastihayani (su)

9.. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

[] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

22 May 2006 10:03

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Vijay,

Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are badly placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna is strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check this events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra nakshatra should also work..

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Vijay Goel

Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

-

Vijay Goel

Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Learned members,

In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

Thanks

Vijay Goel

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

May 23, 2006

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa

governors but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed

by Budha ? Kindly explain.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar

>

> The order is clearly given:

>

> 1. Astottari (ke)

> 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> 4. Pancottari (lg)

> 5. Satabdika (lg)

> 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> 8. Shastihayani (su)

> 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

>

> According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can

> dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than

others.

>

> Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> 22 May 2006 10:03

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are

badly

> placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika

(lagna is

> strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if

i

> remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check

this

> events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

nakshatra

> should also work..

>

> Regards

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

>

> Vijay Goel <goyalvj

>

> Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

>

> -

>

> Vijay Goel <goyalvj

>

> Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

>

> order for application of Udu dasa II question

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

> In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

>

> Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

>

> Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

>

> As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

> Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

>

> Thanks

>

> Vijay Goel

>

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

>

May 23, 2006

Dear visti,

Namaskar,

I am seeing you have used more than once phrase like this

"Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it." Or have you tried Vimshottari dasa ?

I have read Udu dasa Book several times and lot of literature on Vimshottari Dasa from time i started reading jyotish like many on the list .

Of course lecture of Param guru Sanjay ji i have not heard in workshop in west on Vimshottari dasa.

Can you kindly hint , what you mean to teach when you gives this subtile hint.

To me Vimshottari dasa is like Geeta of Lord Krishna where every body can derive any meaning he likes , may he be a karmyogi, gyan yogi , sankya matablambi etc ora vedanti.Likewise It is a mixture and easy to justify any event by use of PAC of KN RAO terminology from Vimshottari dasa.

What are the important riders you want students to use when apply Udu dasa,

It is not necessary that you reply my mail.

I shall wait for your lecture in your Jamini group, if you choose to educate.

I am also waiting for reply to my request on prasna.

Thanking you in anticipation.

BUT YOUR REPLY IS WELCOME IN ANY CASE.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, May 22, 2006 1:54 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rafal, Namaskar

The order is clearly given:

1.. Astottari (ke)

2.. Shodashottari (ra)

3.. Dvadasottari (ve)

4.. Pancottari (lg)

5.. Satabdika (lg)

6.. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

7.. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

8.. Shastihayani (su)

9.. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

[] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

22 May 2006 10:03

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Vijay,

Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are badly placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna is strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check this events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra nakshatra should also work..

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Vijay Goel

Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

-

Vijay Goel

Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Learned members,

In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

Thanks

Vijay Goel

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

May 23, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Srivastava, Namaskar

I will teach this in a future Jaimini-SJC class. The Vimshottari dasa is

heavily used and therefore requires alot of thought and consideration before

venturing into it. Therefore i feel more comfortable 'speaking' about it

rather than 'writing'. Also the knowledge will last longer.

Please remind me of your prasna-request? I see soo many mails that i just

run away some times.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

_____

[] On

Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga

23 May 2006 08:31

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear visti,

Namaskar,

I am seeing you have used more than once phrase like this

"Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it." Or have

you tried Vimshottari dasa ?

I have read Udu dasa Book several times and lot of literature on

Vimshottari Dasa from time i started reading jyotish like many on the list .

Of course lecture of Param guru Sanjay ji i have not heard in workshop in

west on Vimshottari dasa.

Can you kindly hint , what you mean to teach when you gives this subtile

hint.

To me Vimshottari dasa is like Geeta of Lord Krishna where every body can

derive any meaning he likes , may he be a karmyogi, gyan yogi , sankya

matablambi etc ora vedanti.Likewise It is a mixture and easy to justify any

event by use of PAC of KN RAO terminology from Vimshottari dasa.

What are the important riders you want students to use when apply Udu dasa,

It is not necessary that you reply my mail.

I shall wait for your lecture in your Jamini group, if you choose to

educate.

I am also waiting for reply to my request on prasna.

Thanking you in anticipation.

BUT YOUR REPLY IS WELCOME IN ANY CASE.

-

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Monday, May 22, 2006 1:54 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rafal, Namaskar

The order is clearly given:

1. Astottari (ke)

2. Shodashottari (ra)

3. Dvadasottari (ve)

4. Pancottari (lg)

5. Satabdika (lg)

6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

8. Shastihayani (su)

9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can

dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

_____

[] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

22 May 2006 10:03

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Vijay,

Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are badly

placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna is

strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i

remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check this

events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra nakshatra

should also work..

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

Vijay Goel <goyalvj >

Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

-

Vijay Goel <goyalvj >

Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear Learned members,

In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

Thanks

Vijay Goel

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

May 23, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Ketu governer of Dvisaptati Sama? No... why? Haven't you read the FREE Udu

Dasa book given by Sanjayji?

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

_____

[] On

Behalf Of Sourav

23 May 2006 07:42

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa governors

but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed by Budha ?

Kindly explain.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar

>

> The order is clearly given:

>

> 1. Astottari (ke)

> 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> 4. Pancottari (lg)

> 5. Satabdika (lg)

> 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> 8. Shastihayani (su)

> 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

>

> According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can

> dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

>

> Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> []

On

> Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> 22 May 2006 10:03

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> Dear Vijay,

>

> Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are

badly

> placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna

is

> strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i

> remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check this

> events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

nakshatra

> should also work..

>

> Regards

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

>

> Vijay Goel <goyalvj

>

> Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

>

> Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

>

> -

>

> Vijay Goel <goyalvj

>

> Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

>

> order for application of Udu dasa II question

>

> Dear Learned members,

>

> In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

>

> Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

>

> Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

>

> As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

> Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

>

> Thanks

>

> Vijay Goel

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

>

May 23, 2006

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Please correct me if I am missing

something. I am having the book Vimsottari & Udu Dasas and also verified

it from the softcopy you uploaded recently in this File

Section. It is written Ketu is governor of Dwisaptati Sama Dasa.

Also please explain the Shat Trimsa Sama Dasa governor as Budha.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Ketu governer of Dvisaptati Sama? No... why? Haven't you read the FREE

Udu

> Dasa book given by Sanjayji?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Sourav

> 23 May 2006 07:42

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Visti-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

> Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa

governors

> but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed by

Budha ?

> Kindly explain.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

>

> , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar

> >

> > The order is clearly given:

> >

> > 1. Astottari (ke)

> > 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> > 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> > 4. Pancottari (lg)

> > 5. Satabdika (lg)

> > 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> > 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> > 8. Shastihayani (su)

> > 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

> >

> > According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma,

can

> > dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than

others.

> >

> > Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

[]

> On

> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> > 22 May 2006 10:03

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

> question

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they

are

> badly

> > placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika

(lagna

> is

> > strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so

if i

> > remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would

check this

> > events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

> nakshatra

> > should also work..

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> >

> > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> >

> > Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

> >

> > Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

> >

> > -

> >

> > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> >

> > Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

> >

> > order for application of Udu dasa II question

> >

> > Dear Learned members,

> >

> > In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

> >

> > Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

> >

> > Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

> >

> > As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna

in

> > Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Vijay Goel

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

>

> >

May 23, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Please read page 47 (third chapter - page 9) of the book.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

_____

[] On

Behalf Of Sourav

23 May 2006 15:06

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Please correct me if I am missing

something. I am having the book Vimsottari & Udu Dasas and also verified it

from the softcopy you uploaded recently in this File Section. It

is written Ketu is governor of Dwisaptati Sama Dasa.

Also please explain the Shat Trimsa Sama Dasa governor as Budha.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Ketu governer of Dvisaptati Sama? No... why? Haven't you read the FREE Udu

> Dasa book given by Sanjayji?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> []

On

> Behalf Of Sourav

> 23 May 2006 07:42

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Visti-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

> Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa governors

> but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed by Budha ?

> Kindly explain.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

>

> , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar

> >

> > The order is clearly given:

> >

> > 1. Astottari (ke)

> > 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> > 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> > 4. Pancottari (lg)

> > 5. Satabdika (lg)

> > 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> > 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> > 8. Shastihayani (su)

> > 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

> >

> > According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can

> > dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

> >

> > Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> > []

> On

> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> > 22 May 2006 10:03

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

> question

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> >

> > Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are

> badly

> > placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika

(lagna

> is

> > strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i

> > remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would check

this

> > events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

> nakshatra

> > should also work..

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> >

> > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> >

> > Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

> >

> > Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

> >

> > -

> >

> > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> >

> > Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

> >

> > order for application of Udu dasa II question

> >

> > Dear Learned members,

> >

> > In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

> >

> > Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

> >

> > Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

> >

> > As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

> > Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Vijay Goel

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

>

> >

May 23, 2006

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Then there is a conflict of

information. In Chapter 13 (p. 217), Sanjay-ji writes twice that

Dwisaptati Sama Dasa's governer is Ketu. When I last spoke to him about

a couple of months ago, he told me Ketu is governor. Please let me know

your opinion on this ?

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Please read page 47 (third chapter - page 9) of the book.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Sourav

> 23 May 2006 15:06

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Visti-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Please correct me if I am missing

> something. I am having the book Vimsottari & Udu Dasas and also

verified it

> from the softcopy you uploaded recently in this File

Section. It

> is written Ketu is governor of Dwisaptati Sama Dasa.

>

> Also please explain the Shat Trimsa Sama Dasa governor as Budha.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==================================================================

>

> , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> >

> > Ketu governer of Dvisaptati Sama? No... why? Haven't you read the

FREE Udu

> > Dasa book given by Sanjayji?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

><http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

[]

> On

> > Behalf Of Sourav

> > 23 May 2006 07:42

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

> question

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Visti-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

> > Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa

governors

> > but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed by

Budha ?

> > Kindly explain.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The order is clearly given:

> > >

> > > 1. Astottari (ke)

> > > 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> > > 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> > > 4. Pancottari (lg)

> > > 5. Satabdika (lg)

> > > 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> > > 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> > > 8. Shastihayani (su)

> > > 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

> > >

> > > According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma,

can

> > > dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than

others.

> > >

> > > Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

[]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> > > 22 May 2006 10:03

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa

II

> > question

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay,

> > >

> > > Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they

are

> > badly

> > > placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika

> (lagna

> > is

> > > strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar

so if i

> > > remember correctly the Shastihayani should be used, but I would

check

> this

> > > events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

> > nakshatra

> > > should also work..

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> > >

> > > Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

question

> > >

> > > Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> > >

> > > Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

> > >

> > > order for application of Udu dasa II question

> > >

> > > Dear Learned members,

> > >

> > > In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

> > >

> > > Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

> > >

> > > Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

> > >

> > > As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna

in

> > > Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that

> the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today

> >

> > >

May 25, 2006

|| hare räma kåñna ||

Dear Guruji, Pranaam,

Just to point out that the 5th section of the VUD

book is missing from the files section of this

group - perhaps you could upload it for

completeness? I think it's all there on the SJERC website though.

Best wishes,

Samir

At 18:48 23/05/2006, you wrote:

>||Hare Rama Krsna||

>Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>Please read page 47 (third chapter – page 9) of the book.

>Best wishes,

>***

>Visti Larsen

>For services and articles visit:

>***

>

>----------

>

>[] On Behalf Of Sourav

>23 May 2006 15:06

>

>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

>

>|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

>Dear Visti-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Please

> correct me if I am missing something. I am

> having the book Vimsottari & Udu Dasas and also

> verified it from the softcopy you uploaded

> recently in this File Section. It

> is written Ketu is governor of Dwisaptati Sama Dasa.

>

>Also please explain the Shat Trimsa Sama Dasa governor as Budha.

>

>Best wishes,

>

>Sourav

>

>==================================================================

>

>, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar

> >

> > Ketu governer of Dvisaptati Sama? No... why? Haven't you read the FREE Udu

> > Dasa book given by Sanjayji?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of Sourav

> > 23 May 2006 07:42

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for

> application of Udu dasa II question

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Visti-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Shouldn't it be Ketu as governor of

> > Dwi-saptati Sama Dasa below ? Also, I understood the other dasa governors

> > but I couldn't understand why Shattrimsa Sama Dasa is governed by Budha ?

> > Kindly explain.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The order is clearly given:

> > >

> > > 1. Astottari (ke)

> > > 2. Shodashottari (ra)

> > > 3. Dvadasottari (ve)

> > > 4. Pancottari (lg)

> > > 5. Satabdika (lg)

> > > 6. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

> > > 7. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

> > > 8. Shastihayani (su)

> > > 9. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

> > >

> > > According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can

> > > dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

> > >

> > > Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > []

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> > > 22 May 2006 10:03

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II

> > question

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay,

> > >

> > > Ashtottari and Shodashottari has Ketu and Rahu as Karakas and they are

> > badly

> > > placed from AK. There is choice between Shastihayani and Satabdika (lagna

> > is

> > > strong). So there we should go by natural order given by Parasar so if i

> > > remember correctly the Shastihayani should

> be used, but I would check this

> > > events in life...chandra in Lagna so vimshottari based on chandra

> > nakshatra

> > > should also work..

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> > >

> > > Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

> > >

> > > Also Shodadottari dasa ia applicable.

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel <goyalvj@

> > >

> > > Monday, May 22, 2006 10:11 AM

> > >

> > > order for application of Udu dasa II question

> > >

> > > Dear Learned members,

> > >

> > > In the chart 14 Aug 1975; time 5:28:00; 75E49' 26N55', India)

> > >

> > > Ashotattari dasa,Dwisaptati dasa,Shastisama dasa are applicable.

> > >

> > > Please advice the preference dasa of applicability.

> > >

> > > As i heard audio of Shri Visti that it is neccesary for Hora Lagna in

> > > Kashinath hora for timing of income\wealth.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Vijay Goel

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed -

> do one free chart reading today

> >

> > >

May 25, 2006

Dear Visti,

Namaskar, my prasna question is replied in an another mail.

In last sept issue of Astrological Magazine a few pointer were spelled by Gyatri devi vasudev in her editorial for selecting Bhukti giving marriage.W.R.T. application of Vimshottari Dasa.Results are not encouraging

It will be useful if you can guide how to shortlist bhukti that will give marriage.

I will await your lecture on Vimshoattri dasa .In caseyou have no time to write pointer you may consider this question in your lecture .

Hari om Tatsat.

-

Visti Larsen

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:12 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Srivastava, Namaskar

I will teach this in a future Jaimini-SJC class. The Vimshottari dasa is heavily used and therefore requires alot of thought and consideration before venturing into it. Therefore i feel more comfortable 'speaking' about it rather than 'writing'. Also the knowledge will last longer.

Please remind me of your prasna-request? I see soo many mails that i just run away some times.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

***

[] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga

23 May 2006 08:31

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

Dear visti,

Namaskar,

I am seeing you have used more than once phrase like this

"Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it." Or have you tried Vimshottari dasa ?

I have read Udu dasa Book several times and lot of literature on Vimshottari Dasa from time i started reading jyotish like many on the list .

Of course lecture of Param guru Sanjay ji i have not heard in workshop in west on Vimshottari dasa.

Can you kindly hint , what you mean to teach when you gives this subtile hint.

To me Vimshottari dasa is like Geeta of Lord Krishna where every body can derive any meaning he likes , may he be a karmyogi, gyan yogi , sankya matablambi etc ora vedanti.Likewise It is a mixture and easy to justify any event by use of PAC of KN RAO terminology from Vimshottari dasa.

What are the important riders you want students to use when apply Udu dasa,

It is not necessary that you reply my mail.

I shall wait for your lecture in your Jamini group, if you choose to educate.

I am also waiting for reply to my request on prasna.

Thanking you in anticipation.

BUT YOUR REPLY IS WELCOME IN ANY CASE.

-

Visti Larsen

Monday, May 22, 2006 1:54 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] order for application of Udu dasa II question

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Rafal, Namaskar

The order is clearly given:

1.. Astottari (ke)

2.. Shodashottari (ra)

3.. Dvadasottari (ve)

4.. Pancottari (lg)

5.. Satabdika (lg)

6.. Chaturshiti Sama (tenth lord)

7.. Dvisaptati Sama (mo)

8.. Shastihayani (su)

9.. Shat Trimsa Sama (me)

According to the tradition the atma-bala, or strength of the atma, can dominate over this order and make one dasa more applicable than others.

Vimshottari Dasa ALWAYS works... if you know how to interpret it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit: