Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun ji Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any of the intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than that. It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list moderator. Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists can never earn as much as business executives and sales people." This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation based on the following two postulates: Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for Money, we get: Money = Work / Knowledge Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, regardless of the amount of Work done. Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc have less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning pure knowledge "vidhya". regards / Prafulla Gang vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear prafulla ji > > all your observations are correct. > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. as > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or suvarna > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did you > find > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is taught, > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. If it > is > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in current > times. > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth was > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > learned > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So guru was > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the best > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed in > current > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails to > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even from > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > materialistic > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru can be > one > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be candidate > > for final say. > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will render > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu (moden > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, manipulation, > > competitive fierceness). > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit rahu > is > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - the > native > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic pursuits. > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share their > > experience) - > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / 11th > house > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old days > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > critical > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets need > to be > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor will > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main candidate > for > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic and > > competitive pursuits. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or calling > him > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > examples > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > child > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > tatvam > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > killer > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised that > this > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after the > arrest > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. result of > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > nature > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not respected. > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst all > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only planetary > status > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per samhitas > and > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given in > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern books > are > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > exaltation > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > either > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only give > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is that > they > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > language. > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person goes > to a > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living habits > and > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so instead > of > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn his > bread > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting these > in > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started painting > that > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences these > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a foreign > land. > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > colourful > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If you > fail, > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu .(They are > one > > > for me) > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about Universal > number > > > 142. > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I thought I > will > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing that > > > > limitation is > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > Therefore, > > > Rahu > > > > alone > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify the > > > dwandhas - > > > > Pairs of > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under purview > of the > > > > space. It > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > given > > > name. > > > > It is > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam and > > > Anantam. > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > satya. > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen Universe is > > > Satya in the > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in limitedness, > Rahu can > > > > shock us > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their senses. > So we > > > > need the > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will provide > with > > > the > > > > viveka > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. Surya as > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement of > all in > > > > this, if > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that grasps us, > also > > > > releases > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance of a > > > > particular trait > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > acceptance. > > > The whole > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is nothing > but > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > Nature > > > amounts to > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas attack. > To the > > > > one who > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. For > him, > > > the > > > > destiny > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > destroyed > > > > because > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the node of > > > Moon as my > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal North > South > > > > magnatic > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or Guru- > Kaal > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you would > be > > > starting > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > Astrology" > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They follow > the > > > nature > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose part > of > > > life and > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is considered > good by > > > many > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > personality, > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself and > the > > > society, > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a guru > when > > > one > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > population. > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied Guru. > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and honor > in the > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all the > bad > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. However, > it > > > has a > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > things > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different points. > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless circle of > > > seeking > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - it > can > > > bring > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual masters > > > say: "Take > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of this > poor > > > fellow > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in the > 7th. > > > House > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow does > > > have some > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > inspite > > > of > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its > > > implications > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the route > of > > > Jupiter > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good in > > > terms per > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated Capitalist > (Jup) > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the fact > that > > > there > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > either > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist > council- > > > now > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just that > the > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > completely > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced and > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi mein > > > Chhed > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I last checked! RR vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any of the > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than that. > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list moderator. > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists can > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation based on > the following two postulates: > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for Money, we > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc have > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning pure > knowledge "vidhya". > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. as > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or suvarna > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did you > > find > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is taught, > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. If it > > is > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in current > > times. > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth was > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > learned > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So guru was > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the best > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed in > > current > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails to > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even from > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > materialistic > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru can be > > one > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be candidate > > > for final say. > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will render > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu (moden > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, manipulation, > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit rahu > > is > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - the > > native > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic pursuits. > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share their > > > experience) - > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / 11th > > house > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old days > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > critical > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets need > > to be > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor will > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main candidate > > for > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic and > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or calling > > him > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > examples > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > child > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > tatvam > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > killer > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised that > > this > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after the > > arrest > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. result of > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > nature > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not respected. > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst all > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only planetary > > status > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per samhitas > > and > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given in > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern books > > are > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > exaltation > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > either > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only give > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is that > > they > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > language. > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person goes > > to a > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living habits > > and > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so instead > > of > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn his > > bread > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting these > > in > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started painting > > that > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences these > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a foreign > > land. > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > colourful > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If you > > fail, > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > <nameisego@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu .(They are > > one > > > > for me) > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about Universal > > number > > > > 142. > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I thought I > > will > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing that > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > Therefore, > > > > Rahu > > > > > alone > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify the > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under purview > > of the > > > > > space. It > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > given > > > > name. > > > > > It is > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam and > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > satya. > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen Universe is > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in limitedness, > > Rahu can > > > > > shock us > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their senses. > > So we > > > > > need the > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will provide > > with > > > > the > > > > > viveka > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. Surya as > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement of > > all in > > > > > this, if > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that grasps us, > > also > > > > > releases > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance of a > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > acceptance. > > > > The whole > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is nothing > > but > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > Nature > > > > amounts to > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas attack. > > To the > > > > > one who > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. For > > him, > > > > the > > > > > destiny > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > destroyed > > > > > because > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the node of > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal North > > South > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or Guru- > > Kaal > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you would > > be > > > > starting > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They follow > > the > > > > nature > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose part > > of > > > > life and > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is considered > > good by > > > > many > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > personality, > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself and > > the > > > > society, > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a guru > > when > > > > one > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > population. > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied Guru. > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and honor > > in the > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all the > > bad > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. However, > > it > > > > has a > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > things > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different points. > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless circle of > > > > seeking > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - it > > can > > > > bring > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual masters > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of this > > poor > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in the > > 7th. > > > > House > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow does > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > inspite > > > > of > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its > > > > implications > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the route > > of > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good in > > > > terms per > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated Capitalist > > (Jup) > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the fact > > that > > > > there > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > either > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist > > council- > > > > now > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just that > > the > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > completely > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced and > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi mein > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Dear Rohiniji, I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot be stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. blessings Renuji vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <clarity2020 wrote: > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I last > checked! > > RR > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any of > the > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than > that. > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > moderator. > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists can > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation based > on > > the following two postulates: > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for Money, > we > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc have > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning pure > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. as > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > suvarna > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did you > > > find > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is > taught, > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. If > it > > > is > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in current > > > times. > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth was > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > > learned > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So guru > was > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the best > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed in > > > current > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails to > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even > from > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > materialistic > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru can > be > > > one > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > candidate > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will render > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu > (moden > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > manipulation, > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit > rahu > > > is > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - the > > > native > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > pursuits. > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share > their > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / > 11th > > > house > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old > days > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > > critical > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets > need > > > to be > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor > will > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > candidate > > > for > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic > and > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > calling > > > him > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > > examples > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > > child > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > > tatvam > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > > killer > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised > that > > > this > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after the > > > arrest > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. result > of > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > > nature > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > respected. > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst > all > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only planetary > > > status > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per samhitas > > > and > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given in > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern > books > > > are > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > > exaltation > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > > either > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only give > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is > that > > > they > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > > language. > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person > goes > > > to a > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living > habits > > > and > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > instead > > > of > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn his > > > bread > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting > these > > > in > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > painting > > > that > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences > these > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a foreign > > > land. > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > > colourful > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If you > > > fail, > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu .(They > are > > > one > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about Universal > > > number > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I thought > I > > > will > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing > that > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > > Therefore, > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify the > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > purview > > > of the > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > > given > > > > > name. > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam > and > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > > satya. > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen Universe > is > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in limitedness, > > > Rahu can > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > senses. > > > So we > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > provide > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. Surya > as > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement > of > > > all in > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that grasps > us, > > > also > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance of > a > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > acceptance. > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > nothing > > > but > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > > Nature > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > attack. > > > To the > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. For > > > him, > > > > > the > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > > destroyed > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the node > of > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal > North > > > South > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or > Guru- > > > Kaal > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you > would > > > be > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > follow > > > the > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose > part > > > of > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is considered > > > good by > > > > > many > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself and > > > the > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a guru > > > when > > > > > one > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > population. > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied > Guru. > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and > honor > > > in the > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all > the > > > bad > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > However, > > > it > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > > things > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different > points. > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless circle > of > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - > it > > > can > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > masters > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of > this > > > poor > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in > the > > > 7th. > > > > > House > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow > does > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > > inspite > > > > > of > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the > route > > > of > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good > in > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > Capitalist > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the > fact > > > that > > > > > there > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > > either > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist > > > council- > > > > > now > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just > that > > > the > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam- Asi > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced > and > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi > mein > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Renuji By definition - vidhya is wealth too, and by definition..in mahabarat days, even putra and spouse was considered wealth too. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear Rohiniji, > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot be > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > blessings > > Renuji > > > vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I > last > > checked! > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any > of > > the > > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than > > that. > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists > can > > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation > based > > on > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for > Money, > > we > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc > have > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning > pure > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. > as > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > > suvarna > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did > you > > > > find > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is > > taught, > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. > If > > it > > > > is > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in > current > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth > was > > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > > > learned > > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So > guru > > was > > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the > best > > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed > in > > > > current > > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails > to > > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even > > from > > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > > materialistic > > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru > can > > be > > > > one > > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > > candidate > > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will > render > > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu > > (moden > > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > > manipulation, > > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit > > rahu > > > > is > > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - > the > > > > native > > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share > > their > > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / > > 11th > > > > house > > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old > > days > > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > > > critical > > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets > > need > > > > to be > > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor > > will > > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > > candidate > > > > for > > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic > > and > > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > > calling > > > > him > > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > > > examples > > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > > > child > > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > > > tatvam > > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > > > killer > > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised > > that > > > > this > > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after > the > > > > arrest > > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. > result > > of > > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > > > nature > > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > > respected. > > > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst > > all > > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only > planetary > > > > status > > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per > samhitas > > > > and > > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given > in > > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern > > books > > > > are > > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > > > exaltation > > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > > > either > > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only > give > > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is > > that > > > > they > > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > > > language. > > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person > > goes > > > > to a > > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living > > habits > > > > and > > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > > instead > > > > of > > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn > his > > > > bread > > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting > > these > > > > in > > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > > painting > > > > that > > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences > > these > > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a > foreign > > > > land. > > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > > > colourful > > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If > you > > > > fail, > > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu .(They > > are > > > > one > > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about > Universal > > > > number > > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I > thought > > I > > > > will > > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing > > that > > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > > > Therefore, > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify > the > > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > > purview > > > > of the > > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > > > given > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam > > and > > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > > > satya. > > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen > Universe > > is > > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in > limitedness, > > > > Rahu can > > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > > senses. > > > > So we > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > > provide > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. > Surya > > as > > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement > > of > > > > all in > > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that > grasps > > us, > > > > also > > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance > of > > a > > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > > nothing > > > > but > > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > > > Nature > > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > > attack. > > > > To the > > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. > For > > > > him, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the > node > > of > > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal > > North > > > > South > > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or > > Guru- > > > > Kaal > > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you > > would > > > > be > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > > follow > > > > the > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose > > part > > > > of > > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is > considered > > > > good by > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself > and > > > > the > > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a > guru > > > > when > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > > population. > > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied > > Guru. > > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and > > honor > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all > > the > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > > However, > > > > it > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different > > points. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless > circle > > of > > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - > > > it > > > > can > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > > masters > > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I > mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of > > this > > > > poor > > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in > > the > > > > 7th. > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow > > does > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > > > inspite > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change > its > > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the > > route > > > > of > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something > good > > in > > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > > Capitalist > > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > > > either > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a > capitalist > > > > council- > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam- > Asi > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates > > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double > faced > > and > > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi > > mein > > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ > yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Renu, Obviously you have not heard of Alzheimer's! And many other such challenges that do visit our snug human reality and remind us of our fraility, despite all the BIG SWEET TALK that also goes around! Not everyone is as lucky as JOHN NASH ;-) There are many other examples, of course! RR vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear Rohiniji, > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot be > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > blessings > > Renuji > > > vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I > last > > checked! > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any > of > > the > > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than > > that. > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists > can > > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation > based > > on > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for > Money, > > we > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc > have > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning > pure > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. > as > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > > suvarna > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did > you > > > > find > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is > > taught, > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. > If > > it > > > > is > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in > current > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth > was > > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > > > learned > > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So > guru > > was > > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the > best > > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed > in > > > > current > > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails > to > > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even > > from > > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > > materialistic > > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru > can > > be > > > > one > > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > > candidate > > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will > render > > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu > > (moden > > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > > manipulation, > > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit > > rahu > > > > is > > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - > the > > > > native > > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share > > their > > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / > > 11th > > > > house > > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old > > days > > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > > > critical > > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets > > need > > > > to be > > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor > > will > > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > > candidate > > > > for > > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic > > and > > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > > calling > > > > him > > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > > > examples > > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > > > child > > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > > > tatvam > > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > > > killer > > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised > > that > > > > this > > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after > the > > > > arrest > > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. > result > > of > > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > > > nature > > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > > respected. > > > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst > > all > > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only > planetary > > > > status > > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per > samhitas > > > > and > > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given > in > > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern > > books > > > > are > > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > > > exaltation > > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > > > either > > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only > give > > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is > > that > > > > they > > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > > > language. > > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person > > goes > > > > to a > > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living > > habits > > > > and > > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > > instead > > > > of > > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn > his > > > > bread > > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting > > these > > > > in > > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > > painting > > > > that > > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences > > these > > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a > foreign > > > > land. > > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > > > colourful > > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If > you > > > > fail, > > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu . (They > > are > > > > one > > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about > Universal > > > > number > > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I > thought > > I > > > > will > > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing > > that > > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > > > Therefore, > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify > the > > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > > purview > > > > of the > > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > > > given > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam > > and > > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > > > satya. > > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen > Universe > > is > > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in > limitedness, > > > > Rahu can > > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > > senses. > > > > So we > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > > provide > > > > with > > > > > > the > > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. > Surya > > as > > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement > > of > > > > all in > > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that > grasps > > us, > > > > also > > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance > of > > a > > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > > nothing > > > > but > > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > > > Nature > > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > > attack. > > > > To the > > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. > For > > > > him, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the > node > > of > > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal > > North > > > > South > > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or > > Guru- > > > > Kaal > > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you > > would > > > > be > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > > follow > > > > the > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose > > part > > > > of > > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is > considered > > > > good by > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself > and > > > > the > > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a > guru > > > > when > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > > population. > > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied > > Guru. > > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and > > honor > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all > > the > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > > However, > > > > it > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different > > points. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless > circle > > of > > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - > > > it > > > > can > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > > masters > > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I > mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of > > this > > > > poor > > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in > > the > > > > 7th. > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow > > does > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > > > inspite > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change > its > > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the > > route > > > > of > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something > good > > in > > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > > Capitalist > > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > > > either > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a > capitalist > > > > council- > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just > > that > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam- > Asi > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates > > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double > faced > > and > > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi > > mein > > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ > yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 But Prafulla and Renuji-ji, Sorry to be the party pooper! Spouse and children are not considered wealth (as in possession!) any more in modern societies! Since there are no internet connections in any ashrams as far as I know -- I assume that all forum members are living in the normal, modern, wired, connected society that we all know as modern reality! We don't have to like it, of course!! RR vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" <ripra_solutions wrote: > > Dear Renuji > > By definition - vidhya is wealth too, and by definition..in mahabarat > days, even putra and spouse was considered wealth too. > > regards / Prafulla > > vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot be > > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > > > blessings > > > > Renuji > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, > > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I > > last > > > checked! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any > > of > > > the > > > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than > > > that. > > > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists > > can > > > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation > > based > > > on > > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for > > Money, > > > we > > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc > > have > > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning > > pure > > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. > > as > > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > > > suvarna > > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did > > you > > > > > find > > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is > > > taught, > > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. > > If > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in > > current > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth > > was > > > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > > > > learned > > > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So > > guru > > > was > > > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the > > best > > > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed > > in > > > > > current > > > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails > > to > > > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even > > > from > > > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > > > materialistic > > > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru > > can > > > be > > > > > one > > > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > > > candidate > > > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will > > render > > > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu > > > (moden > > > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > > > manipulation, > > > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit > > > rahu > > > > > is > > > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share > > > their > > > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / > > > 11th > > > > > house > > > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old > > > days > > > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > > > > critical > > > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets > > > need > > > > > to be > > > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor > > > will > > > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > > > candidate > > > > > for > > > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic > > > and > > > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > > > calling > > > > > him > > > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > > > > examples > > > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > > > > child > > > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > > > > tatvam > > > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > > > > killer > > > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised > > > that > > > > > this > > > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after > > the > > > > > arrest > > > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. > > result > > > of > > > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > > > > nature > > > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > > > respected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst > > > all > > > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only > > planetary > > > > > status > > > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per > > samhitas > > > > > and > > > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given > > in > > > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern > > > books > > > > > are > > > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > > > > exaltation > > > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > > > > either > > > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only > > give > > > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is > > > that > > > > > they > > > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > > > > language. > > > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person > > > goes > > > > > to a > > > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living > > > habits > > > > > and > > > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > > > instead > > > > > of > > > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn > > his > > > > > bread > > > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting > > > these > > > > > in > > > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > > > painting > > > > > that > > > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences > > > these > > > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a > > foreign > > > > > land. > > > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > > > > colourful > > > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If > > you > > > > > fail, > > > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu . (They > > > are > > > > > one > > > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about > > Universal > > > > > number > > > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I > > thought > > > I > > > > > will > > > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing > > > that > > > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > > > > Therefore, > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify > > the > > > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > > > purview > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > > > > given > > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam > > > and > > > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > > > > satya. > > > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen > > Universe > > > is > > > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in > > limitedness, > > > > > Rahu can > > > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > > > senses. > > > > > So we > > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > > > provide > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. > > Surya > > > as > > > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement > > > of > > > > > all in > > > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that > > grasps > > > us, > > > > > also > > > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance > > of > > > a > > > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > > > nothing > > > > > but > > > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > > > > Nature > > > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > > > attack. > > > > > To the > > > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. > > For > > > > > him, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the > > node > > > of > > > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal > > > North > > > > > South > > > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or > > > Guru- > > > > > Kaal > > > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > > > follow > > > > > the > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is > > considered > > > > > good by > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a > > guru > > > > > when > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > > > population. > > > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied > > > Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and > > > honor > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all > > > the > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > > > However, > > > > > it > > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless > > circle > > > of > > > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - > > > > > it > > > > > can > > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > > > masters > > > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I > > mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of > > > this > > > > > poor > > > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in > > > the > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow > > > does > > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > > > > inspite > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change > > its > > > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the > > > route > > > > > of > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something > > good > > > in > > > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > > > Capitalist > > > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the > > > fact > > > > > that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > > > > either > > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a > > capitalist > > > > > council- > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam- > > Asi > > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates > > > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double > > faced > > > and > > > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi > > > mein > > > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU- DAGABAAZ > > yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Dear Rohini ji, u r 100% rite , where ever lakshmi ji stays , Saraswati ji stays away and visa versa ,thats y it is said that when the child is studing he should not be given heaps of money to spend . In the western countries ,children start working at the age of 16, due to which there are very few who really go to university. regards Prashu On 5/23/06, Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: > > Dear Renuji > > By definition - vidhya is wealth too, and by definition..in mahabarat > days, even putra and spouse was considered wealth too. > > regards / Prafulla > > vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot be > > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > > > blessings > > > > Renuji > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to dwell, > > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since I > > last > > > checked! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as any > > of > > > the > > > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me share a > > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more than > > > that. > > > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and scientists > > can > > > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation > > based > > > on > > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is therefore > > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for > > Money, > > > we > > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists etc > > have > > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people owning > > pure > > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu sampanna. > > as > > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > > > suvarna > > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But did > > you > > > > > find > > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology is > > > taught, > > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by guru. > > If > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in > > current > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, wealth > > was > > > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift tangible/ > > > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who was > > > > > learned > > > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So > > guru > > > was > > > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as the > > best > > > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have changed > > in > > > > > current > > > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often fails > > to > > > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age (even > > > from > > > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > > > materialistic > > > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. Guru > > can > > > be > > > > > one > > > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > > > candidate > > > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will > > render > > > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by rahu > > > (moden > > > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > > > manipulation, > > > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever transit > > > rahu > > > > > is > > > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may share > > > their > > > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd house / > > > 11th > > > > > house > > > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in old > > > days > > > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not for > > > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 will be > > > > > critical > > > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and planets > > > need > > > > > to be > > > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one factor > > > will > > > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > > > candidate > > > > > for > > > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for materialistic > > > and > > > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > > > calling > > > > > him > > > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few more > > > > > examples > > > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed the > > > > > child > > > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech but > > > > > tatvam > > > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict the > > > > > killer > > > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people realised > > > that > > > > > this > > > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods after > > the > > > > > arrest > > > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. > > result > > > of > > > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, that > > > > > nature > > > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > > > respected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best amongst > > > all > > > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only > > planetary > > > > > status > > > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per > > samhitas > > > > > and > > > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were given > > in > > > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and modern > > > books > > > > > are > > > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have any > > > > > exaltation > > > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual results > > > > > either > > > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only > > give > > > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers is > > > that > > > > > they > > > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a positive > > > > > language. > > > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the person > > > goes > > > > > to a > > > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, living > > > habits > > > > > and > > > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > > > instead > > > > > of > > > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to earn > > his > > > > > bread > > > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in getting > > > these > > > > > in > > > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > > > painting > > > > > that > > > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or influences > > > these > > > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a > > foreign > > > > > land. > > > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what is > > > > > colourful > > > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. If > > you > > > > > fail, > > > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu .(They > > > are > > > > > one > > > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about > > Universal > > > > > number > > > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I > > thought > > > I > > > > > will > > > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into believing > > > that > > > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different ways. > > > > > Therefore, > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together signify > > the > > > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > > > purview > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen with a > > > > > given > > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are Jnanam > > > and > > > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite and > > > > > satya. > > > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen > > Universe > > > is > > > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in > > limitedness, > > > > > Rahu can > > > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > > > senses. > > > > > So we > > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > > > provide > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. > > Surya > > > as > > > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is involvement > > > of > > > > > all in > > > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that > > grasps > > > us, > > > > > also > > > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non acceptance > > of > > > a > > > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > > > nothing > > > > > but > > > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything in > > > > > Nature > > > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > > > attack. > > > > > To the > > > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the protector. > > For > > > > > him, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can never be > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu the > > node > > > of > > > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that universal > > > North > > > > > South > > > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog or > > > Guru- > > > > > Kaal > > > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And you > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > > > follow > > > > > the > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who choose > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is > > considered > > > > > good by > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, expansive > > > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of oneself > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you a > > guru > > > > > when > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > > > population. > > > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the embodied > > > Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect and > > > honor > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list all > > > the > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > > > However, > > > > > it > > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory nature of > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand different > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings revolution. > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless > > circle > > > of > > > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other combinations - > > > > > it > > > > > can > > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > > > masters > > > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I > > mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of > > > this > > > > > poor > > > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in > > > the > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow > > > does > > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but > > > > > inspite > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change > > its > > > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the > > > route > > > > > of > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something > > good > > > in > > > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > > > Capitalist > > > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the > > > fact > > > > > that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults in > > > > > either > > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a > > capitalist > > > > > council- > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to happen > > > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may take a > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam- > > Asi > > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates > > > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double > > faced > > > and > > > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi > > > mein > > > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ > > yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear Ranjan ji I know that..I just wrote to vindicate the point that, definitions change with the time. What was wealth at some stage of civilization, may not be contrued wealth. regards / Prafulla vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <clarity2020 wrote: > > But Prafulla and Renuji-ji, > > Sorry to be the party pooper! > > Spouse and children are not considered wealth (as in possession!) any > more in modern societies! Since there are no internet connections in > any ashrams as far as I know -- I assume that all forum members are > living in the normal, modern, wired, connected society that we all > know as modern reality! > > We don't have to like it, of course!! > > RR > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > Dear Renuji > > > > By definition - vidhya is wealth too, and by definition..in > mahabarat > > days, even putra and spouse was considered wealth too. > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > vedic astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > > > > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of wealth which cannot > be > > > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renuji > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati didi decides to > dwell, > > > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality hasn't changed since > I > > > last > > > > checked! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone (please do not read as > any > > > of > > > > the > > > > > intention to offend learned people on the planet), let me > share a > > > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it tells much more > than > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology in advance from list > > > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and > scientists > > > can > > > > > never earn as much as business executives and sales people." > > > > > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation > > > based > > > > on > > > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / Time > > > > > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = Money , It is > therefore > > > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving this equation for > > > Money, > > > > we > > > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, > > > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more you make > > > > > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, sportsmen, artists > etc > > > have > > > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth compared to people > owning > > > pure > > > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya sampanna or vastu > sampanna. > > > as > > > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of vaak bhushanam or > > > > suvarna > > > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / against Jupiter. But > did > > > you > > > > > > find > > > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), traditionally - astrology > is > > > > taught, > > > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik people) ruled by > guru. > > > If > > > > it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have become millionaire, in > > > current > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is often considered as dhan karka. In old days, > wealth > > > was > > > > > > > knowledge / "gyan". Kings used to respect and gift > tangible/ > > > > > > > intangible assets to learned pandits etc. and anyone, who > was > > > > > > learned > > > > > > > used to have such blessings from society and kingdoms. So > > > guru > > > > was > > > > > > > rightly called dhan karka and guru dasha was hailed as > the > > > best > > > > > > > possible dasha on the planet. Now the dynamics have > changed > > > in > > > > > > current > > > > > > > yuga, and guru (no doubt it is somya and satvik ) often > fails > > > to > > > > > > > deliver materialistic success. In modern technology age > (even > > > > from > > > > > > > industrial age), knowledge has no role for wealth. and > > > > > > materialistic > > > > > > > results can be seen only from the other significators. > Guru > > > can > > > > be > > > > > > one > > > > > > > of the factor for an individual success, but can never be > > > > candidate > > > > > > > for final say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to guru chandala yoga (guru / rahu together) will > > > render > > > > > > > excellent materialistic results, for gyan now guided by > rahu > > > > (moden > > > > > > > yuga's ground rules - ambitions, big plans, growth, > > > > manipulation, > > > > > > > competitive fierceness). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming to another interesting observation - whenever > transit > > > > rahu > > > > > > is > > > > > > > over guru and if at the same time transit guru over rahu - > > > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > faces very difficult times in terms of the materialistic > > > > pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While reading so many charts, I observed (members may > share > > > > their > > > > > > > experience) - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -venus, saturn, rahu renders much more wealth than guru > > > > > > > -8th house is critical for big money compared to 2nd > house / > > > > 11th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > -12th house is not as bad (foreign travels) as it was in > old > > > > days > > > > > > > -9th house is bhagya only related to dharma at large, not > for > > > > > > > materialistic pursuits ; in competitive age 3-6-10-11 > will be > > > > > > critical > > > > > > > for success instead of mere bhagya - "9th house" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there can be long list, which we may arrive at..and > planets > > > > need > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > seen from current yuga's perspective. I repeat, no one > factor > > > > will > > > > > > > ever result an event, but when we want to mark the main > > > > candidate > > > > > > for > > > > > > > a result, watch out - jupiter is not geared for > materialistic > > > > and > > > > > > > competitive pursuits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru bashing is back again. to call guru a dagabaaz or > > > > calling > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > making a hole in the thali he eats (good god that few > more > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > were not used like the child killing the mother who fed > the > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > with milk) is all fine in the name of freedom of speech > but > > > > > > tatvam > > > > > > > > ji too knows that they are far from truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when astrologers and scientists alike failed to predict > the > > > > > > killer > > > > > > > > tsunami that destroyed tamilnadu, very few people > realised > > > > that > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > might have been the result of the anger of the gods > after > > > the > > > > > > arrest > > > > > > > > of his holiness shankaracharya jayendra saraswati ji. > > > result > > > > of > > > > > > > > guru bashing? it is clearly written in the shastras, > that > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > would destroy the land where sages and saints are not > > > > respected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guru needs no advocates to show that he is the best > amongst > > > > all > > > > > > > > planets. however, let me put my own understanding: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. as per astronomy, rahu and ketu are non-existing > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. as per mythology, rahu and ketu were given only > > > planetary > > > > > > status > > > > > > > > and they are not planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. rahu and ketu do not form any yogas at all as per > > > samhitas > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > hence no conjunction results with rahu and ketu were > given > > > in > > > > > > > > various samhitas written by sages. (medieval and > modern > > > > books > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > not reckoned) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. since rahu and ketu do not own any houses nor have > any > > > > > > exaltation > > > > > > > > or debilitation points, they do not have individual > results > > > > > > either > > > > > > > > for rasi or bhava. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. rahu and ketu are first rank malefics which can only > > > give > > > > > > > > negative results. the best part of modern astrologers > is > > > > that > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > can project even the worst negative results in a > positive > > > > > > language. > > > > > > > > for example when few bhavas are spoilt by rahu, the > person > > > > goes > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > distant thrown off lands in a different religion, > living > > > > habits > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > various things different to the native's homeland. so > > > > instead > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > saying that the native goes to the farthest land to > earn > > > his > > > > > > bread > > > > > > > > and eke his livelihood as he could not succeed in > getting > > > > these > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > his own homeland, the modern astrologers have started > > > > painting > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > if rahu is in this or that house or aspects or > influences > > > > these > > > > > > > > houses, the native succeeds or shines or settles in a > > > foreign > > > > > > land. > > > > > > > > anyone can easily understand what is reality and what > is > > > > > > colourful > > > > > > > > presentation of negative things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truly rahu is known for deceit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think VA or JR has my work on Rahu in archives. > If > > > you > > > > > > fail, > > > > > > > > please let me know. I will send it to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can we access your work on rahu / ketu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > Good to read your views. > > > > > > > > > > May be you have not read my works on Rahu-Ketu . > (They > > > > are > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > for me) > > > > > > > > > > It would be intersting for you to read about > > > Universal > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > 142. > > > > > > > > > > Then you will understand my thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Tatvam Asiji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 3:00 AM and I am not yet asleep so I > > > thought > > > > I > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > reply back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graha means that it seizes our thinking into > believing > > > > that > > > > > > > > > limitation is > > > > > > > > > > "Reality". Different Grahas do it in different > ways. > > > > > > Therefore, > > > > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > > > cannot be Satya. However, Rahu-Ketu together > signify > > > the > > > > > > > > dwandhas - > > > > > > > > > Pairs of > > > > > > > > > > opposites like: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Likes -Dislikes > > > > > > > > > > 2. Honour -Dishonour > > > > > > > > > > 3. Future - Past > > > > > > > > > > 4. Hapiness - Sorrow > > > > > > > > > > and so on and on and on..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu maybe the magnetic pole, but then it is under > > > > purview > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > space. It > > > > > > > > > > is limited and not satya. Universe is Satya seen > with a > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > > dependent upon the qualities of Satya which are > Jnanam > > > > and > > > > > > > > Anantam. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, space and time always appear as infinite > and > > > > > > satya. > > > > > > > > > Infact, it is > > > > > > > > > > the work of Rahu to make one feel that the seen > > > Universe > > > > is > > > > > > > > Satya in the > > > > > > > > > > form that it is seen. By seeking Anantam in > > > limitedness, > > > > > > Rahu can > > > > > > > > > shock us > > > > > > > > > > into our senses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people are shocked but how many come to their > > > > senses. > > > > > > So we > > > > > > > > > need the > > > > > > > > > > energy of Jupiter and Mercury wherein Mercury will > > > > provide > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > viveka > > > > > > > > > > and Jupiter as a Shiva Tatva in form of a guidance. > > > Surya > > > > as > > > > > > > > > Atmabala, Moon > > > > > > > > > > for clarity, and Mars for courage. There is > involvement > > > > of > > > > > > all in > > > > > > > > > this, if > > > > > > > > > > only we were to will it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very graha under instruction of the Lord that > > > grasps > > > > us, > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > releases > > > > > > > > > > us due to the same Lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any grahas wrong effects are actually a non > acceptance > > > of > > > > a > > > > > > > > > particular trait > > > > > > > > > > of Nature. An individual is only tormented by non- > > > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > > > The whole > > > > > > > > > > nature is called Prakriti in Hindi. The Prakriti is > > > > nothing > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > MahaMaya. It > > > > > > > > > > is nothing but Ma Durga. Non-acceptance of anything > in > > > > > > Nature > > > > > > > > amounts to > > > > > > > > > > non-acceptance of Mahamaya. It is then, the grahas > > > > attack. > > > > > > To the > > > > > > > > > one who > > > > > > > > > > accepts, who flows with Ma - the Ma is the > protector. > > > For > > > > > > him, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > > > > > and grahas remain only namesake for the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good post from you and Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, Guru is destructible and Rahu can > never be > > > > > > destroyed > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is Satya, The Truth. (Don't take the Rahu > the > > > node > > > > of > > > > > > > > Moon as my > > > > > > > > > > > arguing point) > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu as per my thinking stands for that > universal > > > > North > > > > > > South > > > > > > > > > magnatic > > > > > > > > > > > force which always exists in universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is why Satya is known as SHASHWAT SATYA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not call the combination as Guru-Satya yog > or > > > > Guru- > > > > > > Kaal > > > > > > > > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, you also have GTY in 7th house.And > you > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu dasa in 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always admired your posts... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As always I could not agree any more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat > Hindu > > > > > > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grahas are not to be labelled good or bad. They > > > > follow > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > > provided to them by the Lord. It is us who > choose > > > > part > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > life and > > > > > > > > > > > can it > > > > > > > > > > > > good. The other half we call bad. Guru is > > > considered > > > > > > good by > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > > > > bestows prosperity, children, popularity, > expansive > > > > > > > > personality, > > > > > > > > > > > dharma, > > > > > > > > > > > > initiation of projects for the benefit of > oneself > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > society, > > > > > > > > > > > > strengthens memory, gives education, finds you > a > > > guru > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > needs it. Now > > > > > > > > > > > > all these things are very good for 99.5% of the > > > > > > population. > > > > > > > > > > > However, when it > > > > > > > > > > > > comes to Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Guru can bring great attachment to the > embodied > > > > Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It makes one not question the Guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It makes one caught up in seeking respect > and > > > > honor > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > society. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It makes one enforce one's beliefs on others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now what does Rahu do - I am sure most can list > all > > > > the > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > > > things. So for > > > > > > > > > > > > 99.5% of the population Rahu is defined as bad. > > > > However, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > has a > > > > > > > > > > > role in > > > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It bestows knowledge of the transitory > nature of > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It questions the Guru to understand > different > > > > points. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Where there is autocracy, it brings > revolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It never makes one caught up in the endless > > > circle > > > > of > > > > > > > > seeking > > > > > > > > > > > honor and > > > > > > > > > > > > respect in society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When both are together, if with other > combinations - > > > > > > > it > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > > > a balance > > > > > > > > > > > > of two opposing forces. What do most spiritual > > > > masters > > > > > > > > say: "Take > > > > > > > > > > > the Middle > > > > > > > > > > > > Path". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have the combination, you would know what I > > > mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical > of > > > > this > > > > > > poor > > > > > > > > fellow > > > > > > > > > > > > > called Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra > in > > > > the > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever eager to father many children but the > fellow > > > > does > > > > > > > > have some > > > > > > > > > > > > > really good things to offer as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it > but > > > > > > inspite > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > what it > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the name cannot change and so cannot > change > > > its > > > > > > > > implications > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs > the > > > > route > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something > > > good > > > > in > > > > > > > > terms per > > > > > > > > > > > say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated > > > > Capitalist > > > > > > (Jup) > > > > > > > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > > > > > > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change > the > > > > fact > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > no good in either or that there are no faults > in > > > > > > either > > > > > > > > theories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how the world is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, having a communist leader is a > > > capitalist > > > > > > council- > > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is definitely an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, > just > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > combination is not the best of things to > happen > > > > > > > > individually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when you take lordships this may > take a > > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > > > different turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > Tatvam- > > > Asi > > > > > > > > <nameisego@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL > yog ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who > indicates > > > > Truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double > > > faced > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > destroyer of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the place he occupies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, > Usi > > > > mein > > > > > > > > Chhed > > > > > > > > > > > Karta > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU- > DAGABAAZ > > > yog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I agree. COWRI shells in a remote island may hold more value than Gold and knowledge of how to keep your head above water may be more important than knowing alphabet in the same place. --- Prafulla Gang <ripra_solutions > wrote: > Dear Ranjan ji > > I know that..I just wrote to vindicate the point > that, definitions > change with the time. What was wealth at some stage > of civilization, > may not be contrued wealth. > > regards / Prafulla > > vedic astrology, "Rohini > (Crystal Pages)" > <clarity2020 wrote: > > > > But Prafulla and Renuji-ji, > > > > Sorry to be the party pooper! > > > > Spouse and children are not considered wealth (as > in possession!) any > > more in modern societies! Since there are no > internet connections in > > any ashrams as far as I know -- I assume that all > forum members are > > living in the normal, modern, wired, connected > society that we all > > know as modern reality! > > > > We don't have to like it, of course!! > > > > RR > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Prafulla > Gang" > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renuji > > > > > > By definition - vidhya is wealth too, and by > definition..in > > mahabarat > > > days, even putra and spouse was considered > wealth too. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > vedic astrology, "renunw" > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > > > > > > > I think knowledge is wealth. It is a kind of > wealth which cannot > > be > > > > stolen or cheated grabbed by anyone else. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renuji > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" > > > > <clarity2020@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my childhood I had heard: Where Saraswati > didi decides to > > dwell, > > > > > Lakshmi didi stays away from and vice versa! > > > > > > > > > > And that was almost 40 years ago! Reality > hasn't changed since > > I > > > > last > > > > > checked! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Without any offence to you or anyone > (please do not read as > > any > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > intention to offend learned people on the > planet), let me > > share a > > > > > > equation. It is a joke, but ironically, it > tells much more > > than > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is off the subject, so I seek apology > in advance from list > > > > > moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dilbert's "Salary Theorem" states that > "Engineers and > > scientists > > > > can > > > > > > never earn as much as business executives > and sales people." > > > > > > > > > > > > This theorem can now be supported by a > mathematical equation > > > > based > > > > > on > > > > > > the following two postulates: > > > > > > > > > > > > Postulate 1: Knowledge is Power. Postulate > 2: Time is Money. > > > > > > > > > > > > As every engineer knows: Power = Work / > Time > > > > > > > > > > > > And since: Knowledge = Power And: Time = > Money , It is > > therefore > > > > > > true that Knowledge = Work / Money Solving > this equation for > > > > Money, > > > > > we > > > > > > get: Money = Work / Knowledge > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money > approaches infinity, > > > > > > regardless of the amount of Work done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conclusion: The less you know, the more > you make > > > > > > > > > > > > In real life - politicians, businessman, > sportsmen, artists > > etc > > > > have > > > > > > less knowledge ..but much more wealth > compared to people > > owning > > > > pure > > > > > > knowledge "vidhya". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "panditarjun2004" > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear prafulla ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all your observations are correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one has a choice to become vidya > sampanna or vastu > > sampanna. > > > > as > > > > > > > bhartruhari writes "ksheeyante > khilabhushanani satatam vaak > > > > > > > bhushanam bhushanam" one has a choice of > vaak bhushanam or > > > > > suvarna > > > > > > > bhushanam, it is up to you how you > measure the wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, > "Prafulla Gang" > > > > > > > <ripra_solutions@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify you, I am not for / > against Jupiter. But > > did > > > > you > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > it giving "big" materialistic results? > I have not yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In lighter note ( no offence), > traditionally - astrology > > is > > > > > taught, > > > > > > > > read and practised by Brahmin (satvik > people) ruled by > > guru. > > > > If > > > > > it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > dhankarka, how many of them have > become === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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