Guru Chandaal Yog .........-WHY SO? - {further}

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Dear Sauvik

 

I am not talking of theories. and when I was pursuing chart studies (7

years back), I observed it closely. Being not very familiar with fine

tuned techniques, I always stick to finding out the main candidate.

and I did not find Jupiter as major money giver, just being dhana

karka. It can be contributing factor, but not a main one.

 

I may be on wrong foot, and am open to correction.

 

regards / Prafulla

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta"

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Dear Prafullaji,

>

> I completely agree with you when you talk about "Sthana-Kaala-Patra"

> considerations.

>

> Did u know I am running a thread called "Practical Parasara" on my

> group navlakshya to study the theories of Parasara with modern

> charts in today's age and time. And believe me some things don't

> work.

>

> Yes, I agree with you when you say that "wealth" like many other

> things in life is relative and its definition has changed over times.

>

> But Prafulla ji, everything said and done, to ascribe Jupiter to a

> completely material domain and assign Rahu as a full spiritual

> planet does not stand the test of time.

>

> Wouldn't this debate be more fruitful if we came up with examples of

> real life instead of just theories?

>

> BTW, please do join in my discussion on "Practical Parasara" on

> navlakshya/

>

> I would be glad to see u there...

>

> Thanks

>

> Souvik

>

> vedic astrology, "Prafulla Gang"

> <ripra_solutions@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Souvik

> >

> > Jupiter is not a bad planet; in fact no planet is a bad planet, if

> > they are respresented by gods / symbolic attributes. It is their

> > respective role for a chart / event, which is being discussed in

> > relative context.

> >

> > Jupiter is satvik planet, blesses with knowledge etc..all fine,

> but is

> > it a main candidate for worldly pursuits. Very often, when we find

> > jupiter not giving "desired" results, we find some overlapping

> factor

> > (if jupiter is most benefic for dhana related results, how can it

> be

> > working in reverse direction, by any minor influences) and

> likewise,

> > when jupiter is seem to be giving benefic results, we often ignore

> > other key significators. In modern age - wealth flows from

> technology,

> > industry, war, commerce etc, and none of them are represented

> by "dhan

> > karka Jupiter". Even in old days, wealth used to flow from wars

> (one

> > kingdom winning another kingdom) and commerce - again not

> represented

> > by jupiter.

> >

> > Rahu / Ketu has never been depicted even by Parashar as outright

> > ashubha planet (though may be cruel). They work as yoga graha - if

> > associated with a yoga karka planet (for specific native) in

> kendra /

> > trikona. and if not so, they are ashubha.

> >

> > These two planets are considered as karmic planets as well (and

> their

> > dispositors - karmic controlling planets). It is beautifully

> explained

> > by Late Shri Manik Chand Jain in his two books. The fact (no

> matter,

> > what we assume) remains that our birth is result of past karmas.

> >

> > Many may not agree for even ketu's potential of big wordly success

> in

> > dasha / bhukti, but with the above definition, it is observed to be

> > giving good results.

> >

> > In old days, wealth never used to individualistic, but collective

> for

> > kingdom or family. Jupiter being karka of family, might have been

> made

> > dhan karka then? and based upon family status only, individual was

> > considered wealthy or poor. Jupiter is also karka of status, for

> the

> > simple fact that those days, knowledge used to be blessed by royal

> > favours.

> >

> > Please do not construe that, i am against jupiter. I am just

> > requesting to relook into planetary significators in current age

> and

> > find a rational conclusion.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Souvik Dutta"

> > <explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected member,

> > >

> > > Don't you think you are being hyper-critical of this poor fellow

> > > called Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Agreed his extra-potency in the form of Indra in the 7th. House

> is

> > > ever eager to father many children but the fellow does have some

> > > really good things to offer as well.

> > >

> > > Chandal is an outcaste, nothing wrong with it but inspite of

> what it

> > > is the name cannot change and so cannot change its implications

> to

> > > Rahu.

> > >

> > > In the Kaalchakra Rahu invariably obstructs the route of Jupiter

> and

> > > thus Guru Chandal is definitely not something good in terms per

> say.

> > >

> > > Communists(Sat) have for time always hated Capitalist(Jup)

> mentality

> > > and vice versa. However, that doesn't change the fact that there

> is

> > > no good in either or that there are no faults in either theories.

> > >

> > > That is how the world is.

> > >

> > > However, having a communist leader is a capitalist council- now

> that

> > > is definitely an issue.

> > >

> > > Similarly there is no issue in Rah or Guru, just that the

> > > combination is not the best of things to happen individually.

> > >

> > > However, when you take lordships this may take a completely

> > > different turn.

> > >

> > > BTW, I have this yoga.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Souvik

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Why should it be known as GURU-CHANDAL yog ?

> > > >

> > > > Chandal is Harischandra Raja who indicates Truth.

> > > >

> > > > Guru on the other hand is pompous, double faced and

> destroyer of

> > > the place he occupies.

> > > >

> > > > As they say, " Jis Thali Mein Khaata hai, Usi mein Chhed

> Karta

> > > Hai.

> > > >

> > > > I would prefer to call it as RAHU-DAGABAAZ yog.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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