Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Dear Vishram, Namaste!!! Mercury - Wednesday, 2 hours after sunrise - Emerald Jupiter - Thursday, 1 hour before sunset - Yellow Sapphire Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000> wrote: > > Namaste Richarji, > What is best auspicious times to wear Yellow Sapphire and Emarald ?. > Regards > Vishram > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66> wrote: Two "pearls" side by side. One is composed of only a tiny 5% pearl (nacre), the other is > composed of 100% pearl (nacre)...SO, which one is the pearl!?? I think the other members > of this group can see the ABC of this discussion. If you sell a cultured pearl as a real pearl > then that is an actual "crime." Thus the need for Gemologists, to say what is what. Think > what you like, but "get real" in the process... Because there ARE and always have been > REAL PEARLS available to those who can afford a "precious gem". > > Well, I guess your point is that cultured imitation is the "poor mans" moti...!? Don't you > have any wealthy clients who want the REAL THING? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Noel" <sattva@> wrote: > > > > I am sorry but it's like I said a cultured pearl is real if it is created by > > a clam in a controlled environment.. It is the same life form using the same > > substance to create the same results. That is not the same thing as a > > synthetic stone what so ever.. I have used these on hundreds of clients with > > about a 99% success rate. pulling up some article is not going to change > > that! As far as all the other semiprecious stone I use, come out of the > > ground and work just as will as your precious stones. you just have to use a > > lot of them. I have been doing these for quite a few years. so much so that > > there is no doubt in my mine that it works. level it to man kind to find the > > most expensive thing on this planet to help people with. > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > Counselor > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects [sacred-objects] > > On Behalf Of Mahamuni Das > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:30 PM > > sacred-objects > > Re: WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > But the better question is do cheaper substitutes work in traditional Vedic > > Gem Therapy? The "lab/clinic" that Frawley is associated with in NM, that > > has done extensive testing and study with people, says NO. Same with size > > of Gems. I'll try to find their link. > > > > > > > > Its just like lab produced rubies/sapphires, etc. They are still corundum, > > but they certainly are not the same as the real deal that was forged over > > hundreds of thousands/millions of years. > > > > - > > > > Noel <sattva@> > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:04 PM > > > > WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > Sorry. I should have clarified myself.. The pearls I use are cultivated but > > they are oblong.. And work just find. I am not into draining somebody bank > > account to get them well.I have been following David Frawley's work for a > > long time. And like I said with great success. > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > Counselor > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sacred-objects > > <> . > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends [url="http://uk.messenger."]http://uk.messenger. > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Namaste and Thanks. I asked this question because, in one book I read following Yellow Sapphire - When Mars or Saturn are opposite, trine to Jupiter that time is auspicious to wear yellow sapphire Emerald - When Mars or Saturn are opposite it is auspicious time to wear Emerald. Even I have read that every gem has life say 4-5 years, after that one has to exchange that gem. In one of the book I read that after sometime gems power get reduce, bring original power, one has to keep gem in morning sunlight for 3-4 hrs. This was advice given to one of well know astrologer in India by his guru. As a expert in this would you like comment on this ? Thanks and Regards Vishram ---I disagree. The power of gems is nonstop. It doesn't depend on the wearers knowledge nor ignorance. Gems don't have "karma" being material objects, nor do they take on karma, nor do they get drained nor reduced. Nor do they need to be recharged. Well, the pandit's have to say something, otherwise who will care? So they go on making things up according to their limited experience with fine gems. Otherwise they must admit that they just don't know about gems. If you want information on gems please ask a gem expert, not a sadhu. Best Rgds, Richard Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Vishram, Namaste!!! Mercury - Wednesday, 2 hours after sunrise - Emerald Jupiter - Thursday, 1 hour before sunset - Yellow Sapphire Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 wrote: > > Namaste Richarji, > What is best times to wear Yellow Sapphire and Emarald ?. > Regards > Vishram > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote: Two "pearls" side by side. One is composed of only a tiny 5% pearl (nacre), the other is > composed of 100% pearl (nacre)...SO, which one is the pearl!?? I think the other members > of this group can see the ABC of this discussion. If you sell a cultured pearl as a real pearl > then that is an actual "crime." Thus the need for Gemologists, to say what is what. Think > what you like, but "get real" in the process... Because there ARE and always have been > REAL PEARLS available to those who can afford a "precious gem". > > Well, I guess your point is that cultured imitation is the "poor mans" moti...!? Don't you > have any wealthy clients who want the REAL THING? > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Noel" <sattva@> wrote: > > > > I am sorry but it's like I said a cultured pearl is real if it is created by > > a clam in a controlled environment.. It is the same life form using the same > > substance to create the same results. That is not the same thing as a > > synthetic stone what so ever.. I have used these on hundreds of clients with > > about a 99% success rate. pulling up some article is not going to change > > that! As far as all the other semiprecious stone I use, come out of the > > ground and work just as will as your precious stones. you just have to use a > > lot of them. I have been doing these for quite a few years. so much so that > > there is no doubt in my mine that it works. level it to man kind to find the > > most expensive thing on this planet to help people with. > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > Counselor > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects [sacred-objects] > > On Behalf Of Mahamuni Das > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:30 PM > > sacred-objects > > Re: WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > But the better question is do cheaper substitutes work in traditional Vedic > > Gem Therapy? The "lab/clinic" that Frawley is associated with in NM, that > > has done extensive testing and study with people, says NO. Same with size > > of Gems. I'll try to find their link. > > > > > > > > Its just like lab produced rubies/sapphires, etc. They are still corundum, > > but they certainly are not the same as the real deal that was forged over > > hundreds of thousands/millions of years. > > > > - > > > > Noel <sattva@> > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:04 PM > > > > WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > Sorry. I should have clarified myself.. The pearls I use are cultivated but > > they are oblong.. And work just find. I am not into draining somebody bank > > account to get them well.I have been following David Frawley's work for a > > long time. And like I said with great success. > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > Counselor > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sacred-objects > > <sacred-objects> " on the web. > > > > > > * > > sacred-objects > > <sacred-objects?subject=Un> > > > > > > * Terms of Service > > <> . > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. sacred-objects Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Dear Sriman, Namaste!!! I disagree with all that. It is concocted nonsense. Gems do not depend on anything and don't get drained. Gems are material objects and cannot have nor take karma. If you want information on gems please ask a gem master, not a spiritual master. Stay well!!! Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000> wrote: > > Namaste and Thanks. > I asked this question because, in one book I read following > > Yellow Sapphire - When Mars or Saturn are opposite, trine to Jupiter that time is auspicious to wear yellow sapphire > Emerald - When Mars or Saturn are opposite it is auspicious time to wear Emerald. > > Even I have read that every gem has life say 4-5 years, after that one has to exchange that gem. > > In one of the book I read that after sometime gems power get reduce, bring original power, one has to keep gem in morning sunlight for 3-4 hrs. This was advice given to one of well know astrologer in India by his guru. > > As a expert in this would you like comment on this ? > > Thanks and Regards > Vishram > > ---I disagree. The power of gems is nonstop. It doesn't depend on the wearers knowledge nor ignorance. Gems don't have "karma" being material objects, nor do they take on karma, nor do they get drained nor reduced. Nor do they need to be recharged. > > Well, the pandit's have to say something, otherwise who will care? So they go on making things up according to their limited experience with fine gems. Otherwise they must admit that they just don't know about gems. If you want information on gems please ask a gem expert, not a sadhu. > > Best Rgds, Richard > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66> wrote: Dear Vishram, > > Namaste!!! > > Mercury - Wednesday, 2 hours after sunrise - Emerald > Jupiter - Thursday, 1 hour before sunset - Yellow Sapphire > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte > <dr_vishram_2000@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Richarji, > > What is best times to wear Yellow Sapphire and Emarald ?. > > Regards > > Vishram > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66@> wrote: Two "pearls" side > by side. One is composed of only a tiny 5% pearl (nacre), the other is > > composed of 100% pearl (nacre)...SO, which one is the pearl!?? I > think the other members > > of this group can see the ABC of this discussion. If you sell a > cultured pearl as a real pearl > > then that is an actual "crime." Thus the need for Gemologists, to > say what is what. Think > > what you like, but "get real" in the process... Because there ARE > and always have been > > REAL PEARLS available to those who can afford a "precious gem". > > > > Well, I guess your point is that cultured imitation is the "poor > mans" moti...!? Don't you > > have any wealthy clients who want the REAL THING? > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Noel" <sattva@> wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry but it's like I said a cultured pearl is real if it > is created by > > > a clam in a controlled environment.. It is the same life form > using the same > > > substance to create the same results. That is not the same > thing as a > > > synthetic stone what so ever.. I have used these on hundreds of > clients with > > > about a 99% success rate. pulling up some article is not going > to change > > > that! As far as all the other semiprecious stone I use, come > out of the > > > ground and work just as will as your precious stones. you just > have to use a > > > lot of them. I have been doing these for quite a few years. so > much so that > > > there is no doubt in my mine that it works. level it to man kind > to find the > > > most expensive thing on this planet to help people with. > > > > > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > > > Counselor > > > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > > > On Behalf Of Mahamuni Das > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:30 PM > > > sacred-objects > > > Re: WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > > > > > But the better question is do cheaper substitutes work in > traditional Vedic > > > Gem Therapy? The "lab/clinic" that Frawley is associated with > in NM, that > > > has done extensive testing and study with people, says NO. Same > with size > > > of Gems. I'll try to find their link. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its just like lab produced rubies/sapphires, etc. They are > still corundum, > > > but they certainly are not the same as the real deal that was > forged over > > > hundreds of thousands/millions of years. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Noel <sattva@> > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:04 PM > > > > > > WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry. I should have clarified myself.. The pearls I use are > cultivated but > > > they are oblong.. And work just find. I am not into draining > somebody bank > > > account to get them well.I have been following David Frawley's > work for a > > > long time. And like I said with great success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > > > Counselor > > > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sacred-objects > > > <> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured > pearls Cultured pearl jewelry > Cultured pearl necklace > > Cultured pearl bracelet > Cultured pearl choker > Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > [url="http://uk.messenger."]http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends Terms of Service. 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Dear Vishram Ji, I do not posses clean emeralds as yet. You can ask for Richard ji's help for the same. You need jyotish quality gem which i do not posses right now. Regards A.J PS: Vishram Bhai Saturn and Mars in trine to Jupiter can only bring fatal results. Moreover i fail to understand their relation with yellow sapphire and emerald. There is some big mistake somewhere. Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 > wrote: Dear Alokji Namaste, Please let me know about Emerald, I may for this first and then Yellow Sapphire. 1. Cost of Gem for 3-3.5 carate. 2. Please send me any photos if you have, as u sent for yellow sapphire 3. What is best time to wear Emerald 4. Any chance your visit to Mumbai. Thanks and Regards Vishram Alok Jagawat <a_jagawat > wrote: Dear Vishram Ji, The purchasing of a stone is done according to a good nakshatra. For example Pushyami is always good for purchase. Days like Thursday, Friday and Wednesday are good. The wearing of carries a correct Muhurta. The lagna should be Sthira with Lagnesh in sthira sign. It should be brighter lunar half. The Moon concept is good for mental transactions. This is a physical transaction. Best Regards A.J Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 > wrote: Good Afternoon Alokji, Many thanks for your analysis. Just one query is it good to purchase Gem when Jupiter is not favorable (currently it is 6th to Moon for me) ?. Or shall I purchase when Jupiter will be 7th (After Sept. 06). Let me know. Warm Regards. Vishram Alok Jagawat <a_jagawat > wrote: Dear Vishram Ji, I have seen your chart and your Rahu is placed in Meena in fourth house in Dhanansh. You are going to face Jupiter Mahadasha next year. This is the last sub period in Rahu. Interestingly you are passing through the Narayana dasha of Capricorn which carries fourth pada and twelfth pada. One can understand why you are utterly religious. Though you are staunchly religious but you do not like to show off. Rahu in Meena is good for meditation and hatha and is also good for religious aspirations. Your inclinations and learning will increase manifold in Jupiter period. One thing which i am sure is that Jupiter is highly benefic for you and it occupies pancham pada. It aspects the pancham bahava and lagna which makes it the most superb planet. But present period indicates little problems. There may be some sluggishness in business or profession from December 2006 onwards. This will be removed by August next year. In the mean while do not start a new business or work. Do not invest heavily as it may result in loss. My analysis is that you should combine the tenth house lord Mercury and Jupiter to get a good result. But you have to wear them separately. Best Regards A.J sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000> wrote: > > Namaste and Thanks. > I asked this question because, in one book I read following > > Yellow Sapphire - When Mars or Saturn are opposite, trine to Jupiter that time is auspicious to wear yellow sapphire > Emerald - When Mars or Saturn are opposite it is auspicious time to wear Emerald. > > Even I have read that every gem has life say 4-5 years, after that one has to exchange that gem. > > In one of the book I read that after sometime gems power get reduce, bring original power, one has to keep gem in morning sunlight for 3-4 hrs. This was advice given to one of well know astrologer in India by his guru. > > As a expert in this would you like comment on this ? > > Thanks and Regards > Vishram > > ---I disagree. The power of gems is nonstop. It doesn't depend on the wearers knowledge nor ignorance. Gems don't have "karma" being material objects, nor do they take on karma, nor do they get drained nor reduced. Nor do they need to be recharged. > > Well, the pandit's have to say something, otherwise who will care? So they go on making things up according to their limited experience with fine gems. Otherwise they must admit that they just don't know about gems. If you want information on gems please ask a gem expert, not a sadhu. > > Best Rgds, Richard > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66> wrote: Dear Vishram, > > Namaste!!! > > Mercury - Wednesday, 2 hours after sunrise - Emerald > Jupiter - Thursday, 1 hour before sunset - Yellow Sapphire > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte > <dr_vishram_2000@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Richarji, > > What is best times to wear Yellow Sapphire and Emarald ?. > > Regards > > Vishram > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66@> wrote: Two "pearls" side > by side. One is composed of only a tiny 5% pearl (nacre), the other is > > composed of 100% pearl (nacre)...SO, which one is the pearl!?? I > think the other members > > of this group can see the ABC of this discussion. If you sell a > cultured pearl as a real pearl > > then that is an actual "crime." Thus the need for Gemologists, to > say what is what. Think > > what you like, but "get real" in the process... Because there ARE > and always have been > > REAL PEARLS available to those who can afford a "precious gem". > > > > Well, I guess your point is that cultured imitation is the "poor > mans" moti...!? Don't you > > have any wealthy clients who want the REAL THING? > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "Noel" <sattva@> wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry but it's like I said a cultured pearl is real if it > is created by > > > a clam in a controlled environment.. It is the same life form > using the same > > > substance to create the same results. That is not the same > thing as a > > > synthetic stone what so ever.. I have used these on hundreds of > clients with > > > about a 99% success rate. pulling up some article is not going > to change > > > that! As far as all the other semiprecious stone I use, come > out of the > > > ground and work just as will as your precious stones. you just > have to use a > > > lot of them. I have been doing these for quite a few years. so > much so that > > > there is no doubt in my mine that it works. level it to man kind > to find the > > > most expensive thing on this planet to help people with. > > > > > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > > > Counselor > > > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > > > On Behalf Of Mahamuni Das > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:30 PM > > > sacred-objects > > > Re: WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > > > > > But the better question is do cheaper substitutes work in > traditional Vedic > > > Gem Therapy? The "lab/clinic" that Frawley is associated with > in NM, that > > > has done extensive testing and study with people, says NO. Same > with size > > > of Gems. I'll try to find their link. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its just like lab produced rubies/sapphires, etc. They are > still corundum, > > > but they certainly are not the same as the real deal that was > forged over > > > hundreds of thousands/millions of years. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Noel <sattva@> > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > > Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:04 PM > > > > > > WHAT IS A REAL PEARL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry. I should have clarified myself.. The pearls I use are > cultivated but > > > they are oblong.. And work just find. I am not into draining > somebody bank > > > account to get them well.I have been following David Frawley's > work for a > > > long time. And like I said with great success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Noel Gilbert > > > > > > Counselor > > > > > > Body, Mind & Soul > > > > > > LifeStyle Counselor > > > > > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > > > > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group "sacred-objects > > > <> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured > pearls Cultured pearl jewelry > Cultured pearl necklace > > Cultured pearl bracelet > Cultured pearl choker > Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > [url="http://uk.messenger."]http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends Terms of Service. 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