Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Nepal Hindu Group Out of Touch w/Reality hinduism_in_nepal Namaste Mr Moderator, My responses to yr points. moderators said: 1. We do not need UN proclaimation to save Hinduism in Nepal. UN is a tool of Imperialistic Church. Hindu power is enough to re-establish itself in Nepal. My reply: As you are fully aware, I am no supporter of the UN. My idea is to pressure the UN and thus highlight the injustice of the UN. As an example, India is the largest provider of Peace-keeping troops to the UN, yet India is not on the UN Security Council. So for the last few years petitions have been organized. As far as I know, the UN is no closer to letting India be on the Security Council, but the effort is still neccesary. So in the same way if the tools of petitions etc can be used to highlight the Nepal Monarchy's unique role in the World, it may serve as a means for, in the very least, letting the common person realize that comparing Western tradition of the Monarchy with the Hindu one is unjust. In other words, its about creating an awareness to counteract the negative image that has been intentionally created in the world media regarding Nepal's ancient institution of governance. Also if Hinduism hasnt been strong enough to re-establish itself in Indonesia, SE Asia or even in India why do you think it can do so in Nepal? It can not and will not do anything without dedicated Hindu activists who use evey tool at their disposal. Hinduism is nothing without the people who practice and promote it. An empty Himalayan cave in Nepal is not Hinduism but an American banker at his job in New York who practices Vedic Sadhana is an authentic face of Hinduism. moderators said: > 2. The only person that will agree to your views will be General Bharat Keshar Singh who has caused enoromous damage to Hinduism in Nepal by speaking against democracy. A true Hindu can not be undemocratic. We, as Hindu stand with Democracy. My reply: Now this is totally unjust and an unfair tactic on yr part. It seems you intentionally miscontrue my point. What you refer to as 'my views' on Democracy are actually common knowledge that is available to any entry level Political Science 101 student in the US college system. I didnt invent this or artificially misinterpret Aristotle's views. I was truly shocked when my Political Science teacher introduced us to this chart. When I asked him why the West is so keen on democracy despite the Greeks labelling it as the most deviant form of government, his response was ambivelent. What I am saying regarding Democracy is that it is a tool to be used when Government is not functioning. Government is a function not a flavor of the month. So if a Government is truly serving the function of proper governance, it is shortsighted to shake its very foundations by forcing those who should be governing to lobby and sell themselves to the highest bidder. You clearly seem to have lost faith in the concept of Indigenous governance and are trying to sully my perspective by naming some unknown (to me) General. I also find yr disapproval of the General's views on democracy strange when compared to Prachanda's known statements regarding democracy and his agenda. You seem so critical of this General and very forgiving of the Maoists. As if they have done less harm to Nepal by their actions compared to the Words of a General. 'ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS." Yet you harp on this 'damage' done by his words and only mention the Maoists, with known violent actions, in a sympathetic tone. To put it simply, in America we say,"IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT." So if you say Nepal's Govt is broken you seem to want to fix it with the broken system of the West. I ask you to point out one time in Hindu-Vedic history when the people artificially forced their govt to sell themselves in order to stay in power. Do you seriously beleive that even if every Nepali citizen voted for a Govt that was against the wishes of the Global economic elite, your votes would mean anything? For the record I have run for office and been elected to a small local post.(the 1st practicing Hindu to be elected into American Governance.) In my year on the Waikiki Neighborhood Board I learnt alot about the public face of democracy and the real face of western democracy. I rememebr the phone calls the day before a crucial vote telling me what vote was expected of me. I remember what happened when I dared to go against the commands of our appointed overseer. I was forced out. What did I vote against that caused such dismay? I refused to support a bill that punished people who rode their bicylces or skate-boards on the sidewalks. The city refused to built a bike lane so why should citizens be forced off their bikes just because the govt wouldnt provide them a bike path? This one 'infraction' on my part was enough to put me on the black list. Legally, there was nothing they could do against me but a journalist warned me that something was in the works. In order to protect my family from any trouble, I voluntarily moved to another district and automatically lost my elected position. The next day the frontpage of the newspaper's headline stated,"PARKER BOOTED FROM BOARD." In the text of the story it simply said I had moved out of the district. But yr average voter saw only,"PARKER BOOTED." Which meant he must of been a bad apple so we wont vote for him next time. So I know 1st hand what Western Democracy means. > moderators said: > 3. The Hindu King of Nepal appointed a deputy who was in the business of converting Hindu populace to Christianity. He appointed tainted people as ministers who had worked against Hinduism in Nepal. So the King should get rid of such aides and search for true people oriented Hindu activist to advice him. This only can save him. My reply: Now this is bad news indeed and something I did not know. This is the kind of info I am refering to when I said your info regarding Nepal is paramount. I also agree with your conclusion. moderators said: > 4. Nepal will always be ruled by the political force that stands with Hindu population. This is my promise to you. My reply: Thank you for this confirmation yet are you truly in a position to maintain this promise? Are you saying I nor any other Hindu need to worry about Nepal becasue of yr promise? Please forgive me but your promise is no substitute for real action. The need of the hour is to create awareness about Nepal's ancient Vedic heritage and the need to preserve and enhance it for the benefit of Nepal and the whole world. In fact, I think it is this kind of thinking that has led to the gradual decrease in the Hindu global presence. I just did a study of the Dutch East India Co. The Hindus in Indonesia also had the same idea now its the world's largest Islamic Nation. You also seem to be very ambivelant about what you mean by 'Political Force.'. The Communists=Khmer Rouge stood next to the Buddhist population in Kambulja as well, as they shot them in the head and dumped them into mass graves. Forget standing with Hindus, Govern Nepal as Hindus in the Hindu tradition. There is a big difference. moderators said: > 5. As a Hindu, I am not against Communists or even Maoists. But I am sorry to say that they are being used by the Church. The real communists and Maoists should be vigilant towards this fact. My reply: I hope you are refering to just the sincere Nepali's who have a utopian vission of equality. But if you are refering to the global maoists, they have a record of mass genocide. If the church is using them for the past 100 yrs for its purposes and they still havent been able to clarify their own independance from the church then they are unworthy of being anything other than puppets of the church. Also the founders of Communists were both Atheist German Jews and the Nepal Maoists are said to worship these people as if they were Gods above and beyond their own politcal leaders. Why havent the Nepalis been able to promote their genuine greivances in an indigenous form? Is it because Nepalis have no indigenous sense of fairplay or equality so they must depend on foreigners to give them an ideology? I doubt it. Why wave a red banner of maoism? Why not an OM emblazoned Orange flag of awakened consciousness? 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