Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 DIAMOND Vedic Text Wherever Vala's bone fragments fell, they geminated diamond crystals of various types. Consequently, diamonds are found in the following colors: slightly brownish, white as the full moon, blackish like a rain cloud, coppery-hued, dark yellow, bluish, greenish, pink, and light yellow. Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna,lord of the oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king.The Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules brown-colored diamonds, and blue tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord of ancestors, Aryama. Flawless, high-grade diamonds confer good fortune upon their wearers, whereas flawed diamonds are invariably a source of misfortune. Although a diamond may appear flawless internally, ifany of its natural crystal edges appear fractured, or if it possesses an abraded, withered, or rough surface, it should not be kept within one's house hold, for it can cause numerous ills. Anyone wearing a seriously flowed or clouded diamond which refracts a reddish glimmer from defective facet edges, will surely be abandoned by the goddess of fortune. A diamond containing red spots will bring ruin. A flawless diamond with an even out and smooth symmetrical facets, and a high degree of dispersion is rarely to be found even upon royal crowns. Rough diamonds are generally hexagonal (cubical), octagonal,and dodecahedral, and exhibit external growth markings are sharply angled facets. If one owns a rough diamond with a well-shaped crystalline formation, high transparency and brilliancy, and devoid of any blemished or visible inclusions, he acquires the following virtues: prosperity, longevity, marital happiness, children and livestock, and good harvests. Auspicious diamonds help protect the wearer from attackby poisonous serpents, tigers, thieves, and deadly poisons. They protec this possessions from fire and flood and cause his complexion to become lustrous. Diamonds should not be worn by women, because they possess a mystic potency that causes women to become unhappy. Only a king is privileged to wear fancy colored diamondsof yellow, chartreuse, or pink colors. Their use by anyone in a lower station of life could prove harmful. A king wearing a diamond that flashes rays of light like bolts of lightning will surely be able to conquer other rulers and gainsovereignty over their wealth and followers. Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite topaz, zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, quartz-crystal,and also man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all diamond specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists who are expertin the science of identifying and appraising precious gems. Before purchasing a diamond it should be positively identifiedthrough such tests as hardness and specific gravity. a genuine diamond,the hardest of all elements, cannot be scratched by any other metal or gemstone. The value of diamonds depends more on color and clarity than total weight. Diamonds, because of their high refractive index, have the greatest reflective luster of any gem. --- Sri Garuda Puranam: Chap. 68-b Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Hi Surya, It was mostly translated by MN Dutt (1968) and I also had the Sanskrit and added my touch to the final. This is spoken by Suta Goswami, and he mentions the colored diamonds as we have given, assigning no god to pink. Regardless of this we know that all diamonds are ruled by Venus. Termonology was upgraded by me to match modern gemology... like the Sanskrit says, "reflective lustre" I would translate "Refractive Index". Or if the Sanskrit says the rough is shaped 8 sided then I would update the translation to says, Octagonal. I was trying to give a modern translation to ancient termonology, and it works pretty good. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni> wrote: > > Thank you for this. Very interesting. But who translated it? Quite a bit does not seem authentic or very liberal at best, in terms of translation. > > Varuna used to have a much greater role in the pantheon, so I am not totally surprised that he resides over clear diamonds. I am surprised that Surya rules over green. Who rules over pink? > > Pranams, > > Surya > - > Richard Shaw Brown > Rudraksha Club ; planetary-gemology ; sacred- objects ; vedic-sacred-objects > Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:06 PM > Sri Garuda Puranam on Diamonds > > > DIAMOND > > Vedic Text > > Wherever Vala's bone fragments fell, they geminated diamond crystals of > various types. Consequently, diamonds are found in the following > colors: slightly brownish, white as the full moon, blackish like a rain > cloud, coppery-hued, dark yellow, bluish, greenish, pink, and light > yellow. > > Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various > colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna,lord of the > oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king.The > Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds > are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules > brown-colored diamonds, and blue tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord > of ancestors, Aryama. > > Flawless, high-grade diamonds confer good fortune upon their wearers, > whereas flawed diamonds are invariably a source of misfortune. > > Although a diamond may appear flawless internally, ifany of its natural > crystal edges appear fractured, or if it possesses an abraded, > withered, or rough surface, it should not be kept within one's house > hold, for it can cause numerous ills. > > Anyone wearing a seriously flowed or clouded diamond which refracts a > reddish glimmer from defective facet edges, will surely be abandoned by > the goddess of fortune. A diamond containing red spots will bring ruin. > > A flawless diamond with an even out and smooth symmetrical facets, and > a high degree of dispersion is rarely to be found even upon royal > crowns. > > Rough diamonds are generally hexagonal (cubical), octagonal,and > dodecahedral, and exhibit external growth markings are sharply angled > facets. If one owns a rough diamond with a well-shaped crystalline > formation, high transparency and brilliancy, and devoid of any > blemished or visible inclusions, he acquires the following virtues: > prosperity, longevity, marital happiness, children and livestock, and > good harvests. > > Auspicious diamonds help protect the wearer from attackby poisonous > serpents, tigers, thieves, and deadly poisons. They protec this > possessions from fire and flood and cause his complexion to become > lustrous. > > Diamonds should not be worn by women, because they possess a mystic > potency that causes women to become unhappy. > > Only a king is privileged to wear fancy colored diamondsof yellow, > chartreuse, or pink colors. Their use by anyone in a lower station of > life could prove harmful. > > A king wearing a diamond that flashes rays of light like bolts of > lightning will surely be able to conquer other rulers and > gainsovereignty over their wealth and followers. > > Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite topaz, > zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, quartz-crystal,and also > man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all diamond > specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists who are > expertin the science of identifying and appraising precious gems. > > Before purchasing a diamond it should be positively identifiedthrough > such tests as hardness and specific gravity. a genuine diamond,the > hardest of all elements, cannot be scratched by any other metal or > gemstone. > > The value of diamonds depends more on color and clarity than total > weight. Diamonds, because of their high refractive index, have the > greatest reflective luster of any gem. --- Sri Garuda Puranam: Chap. 68-b > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > > > ---------- -- > ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Thanks for this Richard. It makes sense. The paragraph that really caught my eye was: Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite topaz, zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, quartz-crystal,and also man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all diamond specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists who are expert in the science of identifying and appraising precious gems. I assume much of this is your "touches", right? Thanks, Surya - Richard Shaw-Brown II sacred-objects Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:23 PM Re: Sri Garuda Puranam on Diamonds Hi Surya, It was mostly translated by MN Dutt (1968) and I also had the Sanskrit and added my touch to the final. This is spoken by Suta Goswami, and he mentions the colored diamonds as we have given, assigning no god to pink. Regardless of this we know that all diamonds are ruled by Venus. Termonology was upgraded by me to match modern gemology... like the Sanskrit says, "reflective lustre" I would translate "Refractive Index". Or if the Sanskrit says the rough is shaped 8 sided then I would update the translation to says, Octagonal. I was trying to give a modern translation to ancient termonology, and it works pretty good. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Thank you for this. Very interesting. But who translated it? Quite a bit does not seem authentic or very liberal at best, in terms of translation. > > Varuna used to have a much greater role in the pantheon, so I am not totally surprised that he resides over clear diamonds. I am surprised that Surya rules over green. Who rules over pink? > > Pranams, > > Surya > - > Richard Shaw Brown > Rudraksha Club ; planetary-gemology ; sacred- objects ; vedic-sacred-objects > Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:06 PM > Sri Garuda Puranam on Diamonds > > > DIAMOND > > Vedic Text > > Wherever Vala's bone fragments fell, they geminated diamond crystals of > various types. Consequently, diamonds are found in the following > colors: slightly brownish, white as the full moon, blackish like a rain > cloud, coppery-hued, dark yellow, bluish, greenish, pink, and light > yellow. > > Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various > colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna,lord of the > oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king.The > Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds > are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules > brown-colored diamonds, and blue tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord > of ancestors, Aryama. > > Flawless, high-grade diamonds confer good fortune upon their wearers, > whereas flawed diamonds are invariably a source of misfortune. > > Although a diamond may appear flawless internally, ifany of its natural > crystal edges appear fractured, or if it possesses an abraded, > withered, or rough surface, it should not be kept within one's house > hold, for it can cause numerous ills. > > Anyone wearing a seriously flowed or clouded diamond which refracts a > reddish glimmer from defective facet edges, will surely be abandoned by > the goddess of fortune. A diamond containing red spots will bring ruin. > > A flawless diamond with an even out and smooth symmetrical facets, and > a high degree of dispersion is rarely to be found even upon royal > crowns. > > Rough diamonds are generally hexagonal (cubical), octagonal,and > dodecahedral, and exhibit external growth markings are sharply angled > facets. If one owns a rough diamond with a well-shaped crystalline > formation, high transparency and brilliancy, and devoid of any > blemished or visible inclusions, he acquires the following virtues: > prosperity, longevity, marital happiness, children and livestock, and > good harvests. > > Auspicious diamonds help protect the wearer from attackby poisonous > serpents, tigers, thieves, and deadly poisons. They protec this > possessions from fire and flood and cause his complexion to become > lustrous. > > Diamonds should not be worn by women, because they possess a mystic > potency that causes women to become unhappy. > > Only a king is privileged to wear fancy colored diamondsof yellow, > chartreuse, or pink colors. Their use by anyone in a lower station of > life could prove harmful. > > A king wearing a diamond that flashes rays of light like bolts of > lightning will surely be able to conquer other rulers and > gainsovereignty over their wealth and followers. > > Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite topaz, > zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, quartz-crystal,and also > man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all diamond > specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists who are > expertin the science of identifying and appraising precious gems. > > Before purchasing a diamond it should be positively identifiedthrough > such tests as hardness and specific gravity. a genuine diamond,the > hardest of all elements, cannot be scratched by any other metal or > gemstone. > > The value of diamonds depends more on color and clarity than total > weight. Diamonds, because of their high refractive index, have the > greatest reflective luster of any gem. --- Sri Garuda Puranam: Chap. 68-b > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > > > ---------- -- > > > a.. Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > b.. > sacred-objects > > c.. > > > ---------- -- > Cultured pearls Cultured pearl jewelry Cultured pearl necklace Cultured pearl bracelet Cultured pearl choker Cultured pearl earrings a.. Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. b.. sacred-objects c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Dear Surya, I took help from Apti's Sanskrit-English Dictionary, and also the book Indian Gemology by late Raj Roop Tank, in order to get the English names. Best rgds, Richard --- Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: > Thanks for this Richard. It makes sense. > > The paragraph that really caught my eye was: > > Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite topaz, > zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, quartz-crystal,and > also > man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all diamond > specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists who are > expert in the science of identifying and appraising precious gems. > > > I assume much of this is your "touches", right? > > Thanks, > > Surya > - > Richard Shaw-Brown II > sacred-objects > Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:23 PM > Re: Sri Garuda Puranam on Diamonds > > > Hi Surya, > > It was mostly translated by MN Dutt (1968) and I also had the > Sanskrit and added my > touch to the final. This is spoken by Suta Goswami, and he mentions > the colored diamonds > as we have given, assigning no god to pink. Regardless of this we > know that all diamonds > are ruled by Venus. > > Termonology was upgraded by me to match modern gemology... like the > Sanskrit says, > "reflective lustre" I would translate "Refractive Index". Or if the > Sanskrit says the rough is > shaped 8 sided then I would update the translation to says, > Octagonal. I was trying to give > a modern translation to ancient termonology, and it works pretty > good. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" > <mahamuni> wrote: > > > > Thank you for this. Very interesting. But who translated it? > Quite a bit does not seem > authentic or very liberal at best, in terms of translation. > > > > Varuna used to have a much greater role in the pantheon, so I am > not totally surprised > that he resides over clear diamonds. I am surprised that Surya > rules over green. Who > rules over pink? > > > > Pranams, > > > > Surya > > - > > Richard Shaw Brown > > Rudraksha Club ; planetary-gemology ; > sacred- > objects ; vedic-sacred-objects > > Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:06 PM > > Sri Garuda Puranam on Diamonds > > > > > > DIAMOND > > > > Vedic Text > > > > Wherever Vala's bone fragments fell, they geminated diamond > crystals of > > various types. Consequently, diamonds are found in the > following > > colors: slightly brownish, white as the full moon, blackish > like a rain > > cloud, coppery-hued, dark yellow, bluish, greenish, pink, and > light > > yellow. > > > > Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of > various > > colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by > Varuna,lord of the > > oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly > king.The > > Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish > diamonds > > are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules > > brown-colored diamonds, and blue tinged diamonds are ruled by > the lord > > of ancestors, Aryama. > > > > Flawless, high-grade diamonds confer good fortune upon their > wearers, > > whereas flawed diamonds are invariably a source of misfortune. > > > > Although a diamond may appear flawless internally, ifany of its > natural > > crystal edges appear fractured, or if it possesses an abraded, > > withered, or rough surface, it should not be kept within one's > house > > hold, for it can cause numerous ills. > > > > Anyone wearing a seriously flowed or clouded diamond which > refracts a > > reddish glimmer from defective facet edges, will surely be > abandoned by > > the goddess of fortune. A diamond containing red spots will > bring ruin. > > > > A flawless diamond with an even out and smooth symmetrical > facets, and > > a high degree of dispersion is rarely to be found even upon > royal > > crowns. > > > > Rough diamonds are generally hexagonal (cubical), octagonal,and > > dodecahedral, and exhibit external growth markings are sharply > angled > > facets. If one owns a rough diamond with a well-shaped > crystalline > > formation, high transparency and brilliancy, and devoid of any > > blemished or visible inclusions, he acquires the following > virtues: > > prosperity, longevity, marital happiness, children and > livestock, and > > good harvests. > > > > Auspicious diamonds help protect the wearer from attackby > poisonous > > serpents, tigers, thieves, and deadly poisons. They protec this > > possessions from fire and flood and cause his complexion to > become > > lustrous. > > > > Diamonds should not be worn by women, because they possess a > mystic > > potency that causes women to become unhappy. > > > > Only a king is privileged to wear fancy colored diamondsof > yellow, > > chartreuse, or pink colors. Their use by anyone in a lower > station of > > life could prove harmful. > > > > A king wearing a diamond that flashes rays of light like bolts > of > > lightning will surely be able to conquer other rulers and > > gainsovereignty over their wealth and followers. > > > > Because there are various diamond substitutes such aswhite > topaz, > > zircon, hessonite, white corundum, chrysoberyl, > quartz-crystal,and also > > man-made imitations like glass, it is important that all > diamond > > specimens be tested for genuineness by qualified gemologists > who are > > expertin the science of identifying and appraising precious > gems. > > > > Before purchasing a diamond it should be positively > identifiedthrough > > such tests as hardness and specific gravity. a genuine > diamond,the > > hardest of all elements, cannot be scratched by any other metal > or > > gemstone. > > > > The value of diamonds depends more on color and clarity than > total > > weight. Diamonds, because of their high refractive index, have > the > > greatest reflective luster of any gem. --- Sri Garuda Puranam: > Chap. 68-b > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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