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Respected sri Sadagopan swamin and Dear sri Senthil,

 

First of all many thanks to sri Sadagopan swamin for forwarding this

post to me for my comments. Before offering comments I will give some

portions of earlier mails. It was forming part of the "Ordeal by

fire" discussion, which was there in the lists in 2004. What I am

doing here is to cut and paste some portions of mails.

 

Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta [acharyatvsr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]

Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:57 AM

RE: The issue of Sita Piraatti's agni pravesam

Dear Sriman Sadagopan, I have been following the informative and

excellent exchanges on this subject. Permit me to participate in the

debate. In Sundara kandam there is one sentence uttered by Sita

Piratti to Hanuman in the Asoka Vanam. She says, "maamaiva Dushkrutam

kinchin mahadasti na samsaya:". It is said that here Sita Piratti is

in the role of a Jeevathma and Siriya Tiruvadigal, Hanuman assumes

the role of an Acharya. Seeta Piratti says that She should have

committed a small (kinchit) or a big (mahat) aparadham (dushkrutam)

definitely some time. Otherwise why would Lord Rama forsake Her for

such a long time without coming to Her rescue, immediately? He could

easily rescue Her if He wanted to. For Her sake He even released the

Brahmasthram on a crow, an insignificant being. He could make the

entire Srushti vanish and recreate it in a Truti (may be even smaller

than a nano second). How could he condone the gross misbehavior of

Ravana?

 

Acharyas comment that a Jeevathma commits many mistakes some of which

are unforgivable. Even the Lord who is Mercy Personified acts cruelly

when he finds that the Jeevathma has committed such a gross mistake.

This will be mitigated with the active interception of the Divine

Mother and the Acharya on behalf of the Jeevathma after the Jeevathma

repents for its follies.

 

Apparently at some time Seeta Piratti made fun of Lord Rama when He

wanted to leave for the forest alone without Seeta Piratti. She

alludes that Lord Rama might be a napunsaka, if He were to leave Her

behind. This is Bhagavat Apacharam. But this is only a Pranaya

Kalaham between the Divine Mother and the Lord. This is even

forgivable. But when the unblemished Lakshmana who

· had sacrificed so much in order to accompany the Lord and His

consort

· to serve them,

· refuses to leave Her alone

· when She ordered Him to go to the rescue of his brother

· when they hear Maricha's impersonated voice of Lord Rama

calling their names in distress

· when raama released and buried a fatal arrow into the

Rakshasa in the form of golden deer,

Sita Piratti hurls some very cruel and uncalled for insulting words

at Lakshmana.

 

According to Poorva Acharyas this is tantamount to Bhaagavata

Apacharam, which the Paramaathama will never condone. He will never

forgive any Apacharam committed against His Bhaktas or Bhaagavathaas.

This is the reason He (the Paramaathma as Lord Rama) allows Sita

Piratti (the Jeevathma) to suffer untold miseries in Lanka (Jeevathma

suffers miseries in the Mruthyu Lokas) and then again hurls the

unutterable insults at the Divine Mother Sita Piratti in everyone's

presence and asks Her to undergo the "ordeal by fire" to show His

anger against the insults She heaped on Ramanuja or Lakshmana, the

quintessential Devotee of the Lord. This sentence "maamaiva

Dushkrutam kinchin mahad asthi na samsayaha" is spoken to Hanuman

earlier in the Asoka Vanam, when He meets and tries to console the

Divine Mother. It is spoken to Hanuman who is in the role of an

Acharya according to Ramayana Rahasya arthas or commentaries by our

Poorva Acharyas.

 

I got this from an excellent book written by Ubhaya Vedantha Acharya

Sriman Sree bhashyam Appalaacharya Swamin who was a Sanskrit

Professor in the Andhra University at Vizag. ---- Ramanujam Varada

Srinivasa Thatta.

 

MGV adds - So what sri senthil has written in his article is more or

less same point as stated here. Another quote on the same subject –

 

Narender Reddy [reddynp ]

Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:29 AM

Re: the issue of Sita Piraatti's agni pravesam

Yes, I have attended discourses by U.V. Sriman Sri Bahsyam

Appalacharya Swamy where he has given an illustrious analogy that

ravana can be compared to the mind, Sri Sita Devi to the athma, Sri

Hanuman to Acharya, and Sri Rama to Paramathma. Ravana with his 10

heads can be compared to the mind with 10 senses (5 inner senses and

5 outer senses). There is only one purusha Sriman naryanan, and we

jivathmas are His property. We are like His pathnis. The mind stole

the athma (at least attention) away from the paramathma. Now,

Paramthma 1st sends an acharya. After expressing sharanagathi through

the acharya saying that Sriman Narayan is the only means, Paramathma

comes and destroys the obstacles (Ravana) and gives Moksha.

 

Dhasan

Vasudevan m.g.

 

PS: more in next post.