Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Om Gurave Namah JIVA- A vote for Conscous Learning !! How blessed are we! To all those keen Jyotish learners, Nothing beats the presence and attendance of a Jyotish guru, to learn from our great parampara tradition. For those fortunate enough to learn at their guru's feet and attend a class, you have been extremely blessed. HOWEVER- for those of us learning from a distance, like me who is 000's of miles from just about anywhere, Sanjay has started JIVA and SJERC. The latest impulse, JIVA( www.jiva.us ) I recently joined as a student. I have been truly amazed at the depth of advanced material delivered . Always in simple yet universal, and spiritual form that is given in just the first two sessions. For me who has studied Jyotish for many years, (I think it is about 6!!) and attended many SJC conferences worldwide, ......................It is a Godsend!! The reason is, is that JIVA finally puts all that golden knowledge into conscious order!! Willa, who delivers the course , is very thorough by nature, and she has managed to work ,work and work with the JIVA team , on guruji's dictims until the order is refined and defined. The Guna and Tattwas take precedence, so the more universal leads , Samashti to the Vyashti NOT the other way around as in so many other courses available today in vedic astrology. This is the true direction of jyotish, as it establishes Advaita from the beginning and then differentiates. It is also why the actual presence of your teacher will be much more easily effective. Somehow some gift from the Rishis has blessed JIVA, as i have found deep and conscious learning taking place, despite the distance. Sanjay and his JIVA team seem to have achieved almost the impossible, as every subtle gap in my knowledge is being nourished to reveal deep understanding beneath. We are up to session 3 and planets have not yet been covered!! Session two included Panchanga, with the play of Tattwas and gunas amongst vara, Tithi, nakshatra, Yoga and Karana.!! Some may ask how can this be beginner material? Well the Rishis have the last word, as I found all the students keeping up with Guruji on our weekend conference call!! It also means all the conscious study that everyone on this list and others , have done has helped bring this great fruit of the tradition into being!! JIVA is a whole new impulse for SJC and it is a very great credit to those who have gone before, and those with it today. Already I have reccomended the course to other students, and they too have enroled and come under the care of its impulse. When you study on your own, so far away, it is not always easy to keep the BIG picture and Guruji's shakti in view. JIVA does this with its structure, its content, and its delivery. Even the On line Powerpoint displays follow the same flow of consciousness, and a student can replay the lecture, whilst pulling up all his charts that promote a question. Yes, there are some advantages of this modern age! But for me the real test came when i listened to Guruji on the conference call. ( 1:30am NZlocal time, Kali's hour) I heard the questions and the understanding from beginner students from all around the world.It was breathtaking!! As Sanjay being Sanjay delivered a brilliant explaination of guna and dharma, that I am STILL thinking about, yet one student clicked with instantly!! I hope those of you who read this, know of keen spiritual learners of Jyotish that need this foundation grounding, and will reccomend JIVA. By doing this you are honouring not only Guruji, and SJC but the Rishi's that have so clearly been the vidya behind it. May Jagannath continue to Bless Our studies In grateful thanks, Rosemary Innes-Jones SJC New Zealand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Rosemary, Pardon my confusion! How can *learning* take place without being conscious/aware? I would appreciate some conscious and concrete examples to further understand this very interesting concept. Thanks in advance. vedic astrology, "Rosemary Innes-Jones" <rf.innes-jones wrote: > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > JIVA- A vote for Conscous Learning !! How blessed are we! > To all those keen Jyotish learners, > > Nothing beats the presence and attendance of a Jyotish guru, to learn from our great parampara tradition. For those fortunate enough to learn at their guru's feet and attend a class, you have been extremely blessed. > HOWEVER- for those of us learning from a distance, like me who is 000's of miles from just about anywhere, Sanjay has started JIVA and SJERC. > The latest impulse, JIVA( www.jiva.us ) I recently joined as a student. I have been truly amazed at the depth of advanced material delivered . Always in simple yet universal, and spiritual form that is given in just the first two sessions. For me who has studied Jyotish for many years, (I think it is about 6!!) and attended many SJC conferences worldwide, ......................It is a Godsend!! > > The reason is, is that JIVA finally puts all that golden knowledge into conscious order!! Willa, who delivers the course , is very thorough by nature, and she has managed to work ,work and work with the JIVA team , on guruji's dictims until the order is refined and defined. The Guna and Tattwas take precedence, so the more universal leads , Samashti to the Vyashti NOT the other way around as in so many other courses available today in vedic astrology. This is the true direction of jyotish, as it establishes Advaita from the beginning and then differentiates. It is also why the actual presence of your teacher will be much more easily effective. Somehow some gift from the Rishis has blessed JIVA, as i have found deep and conscious learning taking place, despite the distance. Sanjay and his JIVA team seem to have achieved almost the impossible, as every subtle gap in my knowledge is being nourished to reveal deep understanding beneath. We are up to session 3 and planets have not yet been covered!! Session two included Panchanga, with the play of Tattwas and gunas amongst vara, Tithi, nakshatra, Yoga and Karana.!! > > Some may ask how can this be beginner material? > Well the Rishis have the last word, as I found all the students keeping up with Guruji on our weekend conference call!! > It also means all the conscious study that everyone on this list and others , have done has helped bring this great fruit of the tradition into being!! JIVA is a whole new impulse for SJC and it is a very great credit to those who have gone before, and those with it today. Already I have reccomended the course to other students, and they too have enroled and come under the care of its impulse. When you study on your own, so far away, it is not always easy to keep the BIG picture and Guruji's shakti in view. JIVA does this with its structure, its content, and its delivery. Even the On line Powerpoint displays follow the same flow of consciousness, and a student can replay the lecture, whilst pulling up all his charts that promote a question. Yes, there are some advantages of this modern age! But for me the real test came when i listened to Guruji on the conference call. ( 1:30am NZlocal time, Kali's hour) I heard the questions and the understanding from beginner students from all around the world.It was breathtaking!! As Sanjay being Sanjay delivered a brilliant explaination of guna and dharma, that I am STILL thinking about, yet one student clicked with instantly!! > > I hope those of you who read this, know of keen spiritual learners of Jyotish that need this foundation grounding, and will reccomend JIVA. By doing this you are honouring not only Guruji, and SJC but the Rishi's that have so clearly been the vidya behind it. > > May Jagannath continue to Bless Our studies > In grateful thanks, > > Rosemary Innes-Jones > SJC New Zealand > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Om Brihaspataye Namah Dear Crystal, This is just how I see it. All learning is a discovery process. We uncover the truth that lies beneath. In truth we are all consciousness, all knowledge and all bliss., only we have practised forgetting this. The words I chose may be indeed confusing, what I humbly tried to say was , the JIVA course attempts to work from unity back, as our Jyotish gurus do. Most of our general education system and university system today works from the "principal of pouring knowledge in" From an advaita ( not two)perspective this is false. It is just information and not true knowledge. One may ask.............what is true knowledge? and I humbly suggest it is that which is dis-covered, that which serves a need, and brings awareness of who we truly are. hope this helps, Best Wishes Rosemary - "crystal pages" <rrgb <vedic astrology> Friday, May 12, 2006 2:18 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Fw: JIVA -a vote for conscious study > Dear Rosemary, > > Pardon my confusion! How can *learning* take place without being > conscious/aware? I would appreciate some conscious and concrete > examples to further understand this very interesting concept. > > Thanks in advance. > > vedic astrology, "Rosemary Innes-Jones" > <rf.innes-jones wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Om Gurave Namah >> JIVA- A vote > for Conscous Learning !! How blessed are we! >> To all those keen Jyotish learners, >> >> Nothing beats the presence and attendance of a Jyotish guru, to > learn from our great parampara tradition. For those fortunate enough > to learn at their guru's feet and attend a class, you have been > extremely blessed. >> HOWEVER- for those of us learning from a distance, like me who is > 000's of miles from just about anywhere, Sanjay has started JIVA and > SJERC. >> The latest impulse, JIVA( www.jiva.us ) I recently joined as a > student. I have been truly amazed at the depth of advanced material > delivered . Always in simple yet universal, and spiritual form that > is given in just the first two sessions. For me who has studied > Jyotish for many years, (I think it is about 6!!) and attended many > SJC conferences worldwide, ......................It is a Godsend!! >> >> The reason is, is that JIVA finally puts all that golden knowledge > into conscious order!! Willa, who delivers the course , is very > thorough by nature, and she has managed to work ,work and work with > the JIVA team , on guruji's dictims until the order is refined and > defined. The Guna and Tattwas take precedence, so the more universal > leads , Samashti to the Vyashti NOT the other way around as in so > many other courses available today in vedic astrology. This is the > true direction of jyotish, as it establishes Advaita from the > beginning and then differentiates. It is also why the actual presence > of your teacher will be much more easily effective. Somehow some gift > from the Rishis has blessed JIVA, as i have found deep and conscious > learning taking place, despite the distance. Sanjay and his JIVA team > seem to have achieved almost the impossible, as every subtle gap in > my knowledge is being nourished to reveal deep understanding beneath. > We are up to session 3 and planets have not yet been covered!! > Session two included Panchanga, with the play of Tattwas and gunas > amongst vara, Tithi, nakshatra, Yoga and Karana.!! >> >> Some may ask how can this be beginner material? >> Well the Rishis have the last word, as I found all the students > keeping up with Guruji on our weekend conference call!! >> It also means all the conscious study that everyone on this list > and others , have done has helped bring this great fruit of the > tradition into being!! JIVA is a whole new impulse for SJC and it is > a very great credit to those who have gone before, and those with it > today. Already I have reccomended the course to other students, and > they too have enroled and come under the care of its impulse. When > you study on your own, so far away, it is not always easy to keep the > BIG picture and Guruji's shakti in view. JIVA does this with its > structure, its content, and its delivery. Even the On line Powerpoint > displays follow the same flow of consciousness, and a student can > replay the lecture, whilst pulling up all his charts that promote a > question. Yes, there are some advantages of this modern age! But for > me the real test came when i listened to Guruji on the conference > call. ( 1:30am NZlocal time, Kali's hour) I heard the questions and > the understanding from beginner students from all around the world.It > was breathtaking!! As Sanjay being Sanjay delivered a brilliant > explaination of guna and dharma, that I am STILL thinking about, yet > one student clicked with instantly!! >> >> I hope those of you who read this, know of keen spiritual learners > of Jyotish that need this foundation grounding, and will reccomend > JIVA. By doing this you are honouring not only Guruji, and SJC but > the Rishi's that have so clearly been the vidya behind it. >> >> May Jagannath continue to Bless Our studies >> In grateful thanks, >> >> Rosemary Innes-Jones >> SJC New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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