Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Haizen, Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "haizen" <haizen <vedic astrology> Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod Mahajan/Doubts Hello to all: Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I am willing to share it privately with those who are interested in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: he was not the usual politician. Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes upon it. Sincerely, Haizen Paige Sedona, AZ, USA vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote: > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > wrong). > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > Regards, > Jyothi > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > <polite_astro@> wrote: > > > > .HARE RAM. > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > Saadar Charan > Sparsha! > > > > He is my second Guru > in astrology but like Aacharya > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > while i am resident > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > knowledge so a have some > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > before him.I hope kind > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > reason according to > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > predict that this native had a > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > lord sitted in own house, > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > lord is in own sign. > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > Karak of 3rd house > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > house is sitted with Lagan > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > nor the lord of 3rd house > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > Rao jee through you if > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > With Due Regards > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@> wrote: > > Om Sai Ram > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who > know him. > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > regards, > > > > KG > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the > BJP. > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater > future than he had had so far. > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > ==================================== > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > "knrao" > > Pramod Mahajan > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > Pradeep, > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > following details seem to be reliable: > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > K.N.Rao > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > Kumar wrote : > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from > all angles , including the strological > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > cultured. > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, > he would recover. > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, > balanced news coverage > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > Chara dasha > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing > the violent incident. > > > > The transit of the day > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > > > Tajak > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > Bhrigu approach > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good > and there was no hope. > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > NOTE > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > disclose it later. > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > K.N.Rao. > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > To > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > Dear Guruji, > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that > a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I > have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > > Yours sincerely, > > Varun > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at > any stage. > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I > told them. 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Hello: I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've finished adding more material and proofing it. The new section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and this means going back a few days before the tragic event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. Sincerely, Haizen Paige vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 wrote: > > Dear Haizen, > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > - > "haizen" <haizen > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > Mahajan/Doubts > > > Hello to all: > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > he was not the usual politician. > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes upon > it. > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > <jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > wrong). > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > <polite_astro@> wrote: > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > Saadar Charan > > Sparsha! > > > > > > He is my second Guru > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > > while i am resident > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > knowledge so a have some > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > > before him.I hope kind > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > > reason according to > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > predict that this native had a > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > > lord sitted in own house, > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > > lord is in own sign. > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > > Karak of 3rd house > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > > Rao jee through you if > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@> wrote: > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who > > know him. > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > KG > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the > > BJP. > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater > > future than he had had so far. > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > ==================================== > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > Pradeep, > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > Kumar wrote : > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from > > all angles , including the strological > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > cultured. > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, > > he would recover. > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, > > balanced news coverage > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing > > the violent incident. > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > > > > > Tajak > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > NOTE > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > disclose it later. > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > Dear Guruji, > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > Varun > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at > > any stage. > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body of > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Haizen, I would be very grateful to you, if I can have a copy of the article, Thank you, Blessings Renu vedic astrology, "haizen" <haizen wrote: > > Hello: > > I will be sending out the article privately as soon as I've > finished adding more material and proofing it. The new > section is, "What indicates Pravin's anger in Pramod's > chart?" I feel these transits are a quite revealing, and > this means going back a few days before the tragic > event. In the meantime, please forgive the delay and I > hope to send it out within the next 24 hours. > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> wrote: > > > > Dear Haizen, > > Please send me the said article. I shall feel indebted. > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "haizen" <haizen@> > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:57 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Shri KN Rao's CORRECT prediction on Pramod > > Mahajan/Doubts > > > > > > Hello to all: > > > > Two days ago I completed my own detailed analysis of the > > Vrisha chart KN Rao received from R.S. Pawar and prefers, and I > > am willing to share it privately with those who are interested > > in getting at the astrological roots of this unexpected loss. I > > did the analysis to test out the chart for myself and it works > > excellently; plus it brings out a number of significant points > > of tension between Mr. Mahajan and his younger brother. I > > would not have shared this analysis publicly while he was alive > > out of deference to his family and friends, but I have found it > > instructive to bring understanding to this tragedy after the fact. > > His chart is one of few exceptions I've made when it comes to > > looking at the rashi chakras of contemporary political figures: > > he was not the usual politician. > > > > Put "Pramod" in the subject line of your request. Article will be > > sent as a "Word" document. I am not connected with KN Rao, but I > > think he might find this analysis of interest if he ever comes upon > > it. > > > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > Sedona, AZ, USA > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" > > <jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Shashi Shekhar, > > > > > > Your doubts are relevant (I too have the same doubts) and I > > > appreciate your mentality & guts to ask your doubts frankly and with > > > humility without bothering about the eminence of the astrologer who > > > made the prediction. (Usually when prediction is made by eminent > > > astrologers, people have a tendency to support it (without checking > > > it by themselves)because of a grooved feeling that they can't go > > > wrong). > > > > > > I hope somebody will clarify your doubts. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, shashi shekhar sharma > > > <polite_astro@> wrote: > > > > > > > > .HARE RAM. > > > > Respected Sir Sh.Rao jee, > > > > Saadar Charan > > > Sparsha! > > > > > > > > He is my second Guru > > > in astrology but like Aacharya > > > > Dronacharya jee and Eklavya because i never met him before > > > while i am resident > > > > of Delhi at present.As discussion always improves > > > knowledge so a have some > > > > confusions regarding aforesaid matter that i want to keep > > > before him.I hope kind > > > > hearted Guru Sh.Rao jee will parden me and tell us the > > > reason according to > > > > Vrishabh Lagana. > > > > (1)Sir,before looking the said birth chart could we > > > predict that this native had a > > > > "ALPAAYU YOG", while 8th lord is sitted in own house. > > > > (2)Sir,why was he killed so brutally?Again while the 8th > > > lord sitted in own house, > > > > that is ATI SHUBH GRAHA.So his death should be soft, 7th > > > lord is in own sign. > > > > (3)Sir,Why such attempt was made by his younger brother? > > > Karak of 3rd house > > > > is sitted in his own house 7th and the lord of same > > > house is sitted with Lagan > > > > lord in 5th house.Neither Pratyantra Dasha of Karak > > > nor the lord of 3rd house > > > > Moon was running at the time of incident. > > > > So i have these some doubts,I again do request to Sh. > > > Rao jee through you if > > > > these are baseless,please ignore them and forgive me. > > > > > > > > With Due Regards > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > Mobile-09818310075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaartik Gor <astro_gor@> wrote: > > > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > > > KN RAO Sir is a legend and his silence did say a lot to people who > > > know him. > > > > > > > > Like always he shows the way to everyone. > > > > > > > > God bless him !!! > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > Vishal Bhatia wrote: > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 April, a Saturday, when I was going to the Bharatiya Vidya > > > Bhawan, I got from R.S. Pawar, the co author of the book on > > > Dwadashottari Dasha, the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan along with the > > > degrees dictated to me while we were in a car. Presuming it to be > > > correct, it was put on the board in the class which has two doctors > > > also. I told the class that I saw it as a hopeless case if the > > > horoscope was correct. One male doctor said that there existed some > > > hope because the lungs and heart were not affected while a lady > > > doctor said that it was difficult case. > > > > > > > > Back home, I was bombarded with different horoscopes, most of them > > > preferring Mithuna lagna, while one went on to even Simha lagna with > > > the date of birth being different, 27 October 1948. The date 27 > > > October was given to me by a Maharastrian woman living in Calcutta > > > who said that it was got from an astrologer of Maharastra who had > > > this horoscope in his possession and had made predictions for the > > > Mahajan family on this horoscope.That astrologer predicted recovery > > > after April. So it was a case of confusion worse confounded. > > > > > > > > In different television programmes most of them showed Mithuna > > > lagna and said that if he survived 27 and 28 of April , Mahajan would > > > survive. Another astrologer using the same data but Vrischika lagna > > > also said that if, Pramod Mahajan survived the last few days of > > > April, he would survive and become the most important leader of the > > > BJP. > > > > > > > > Then on different websites almost everyone seemed to prefer Mithuna > > > lagna and all of them repeated the same prediction of it being fatal > > > in the last days of April and survival later, even a much greater > > > future than he had had so far. > > > > During the days the Pramod Mahajan tragedy was being discussed in > > > the media, particularly by the television media, I received the > > > following email from Switzerland and see my reply. > > > > ==================================== > > > > "Vijayadas,Pradeep Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > "knrao" > > > > Pramod Mahajan > > > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:42:58 IST > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Is it about Moon a Maraka transiting 12th from/on to lagna during > > > the said 2 days.In natal chart Moon is with lagna lord and aspected > > > by saturn in transit.(Is saturn 22nd drekkana lord) Another maraka > > > jupiter is also aspecting lagna from transit position. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > knrao Montag, 24. April 2006 13:44 > > > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > > > > Re: Pramod Mahajan > > > > Pradeep, > > > > As usual five horoscopes are circulating but the one with the > > > following details seem to be reliable: > > > > 30 Oct 948 / 19/51 /Mahboobnagar > > > > Lagna Vrisha 17/39 > > > > Moon in Kanya 21/35 > > > > It is the end of story for him. If he survives 27/28 April he can > > > drag on for four months at most if this horoscope is correct. > > > > K.N.Rao > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 Vijayadas,Pradeep > > > > Kumar wrote : > > > > Dear K.N.Raoji > > > > Do you have the horoscope of shri Pramod Mahajan. > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > At no stage I saw any chances of the survival of Mahajan on the > > > basis of the horoscope I had before me. I had no reason to doubt it > > > as some of the events of his life are verifiable from this horoscope > > > including his educational pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware that as many as five horoscopes were in circulation and > > > some television channels desperate to be the "first" to cover it from > > > all angles , including the strological > > > > analysis, approached many astrologers. I was approached by some > > > channels but I refused to appear in any television show . I did not > > > want to cause any pain to the family of Pramod Mahajan which had been > > > in deep agony during all these days. In fact, while a Hindi > > > television channel showed a woman anchor talk aggressively of it > > > being very fatal when water from the kidneys of Mahajan was being > > > removed on 27 April, an English channel showed in a rather cultured > > > way a correspondent saying that a request had been received from the > > > family of Mahajan not to overplay it as fatal. It was clear from this > > > that India's private television channels will never learn to be > > > cultured. > > > > > > > > There is so much awkardness and delicacy in discussing openly the > > > impending death of someone in glaring news. It is not the first time > > > that many astrologers have claimed that they have got the horoscopes > > > from most reliable "family sources". Majority of them stuck to > > > Mithuna lagna and predicted recovery. > > > > > > > > But what a student passed on to me with Vrisha lagna appealed to me > > > as correct and I privately predicted to friends that it was not a > > > case of recovery and, at most, it could drag on only for a week or > > > fortnight. I saw no chance of recovery at all. It is what I had > > > written to Pradeep on 24 April. > > > > > > > > I am surprised at astrologers who cannot see the rise of Mahajan in > > > the dasha of Saturn the tenth lord from Vrisha lagna. Why are they > > > sticking to Mithuna and predicting recovery? > > > > > > > > See for instance the period of his rise. In Chara dasha it would be > > > the dasha of Vrischika with an excellent eleventh house containing > > > the Amatyakaraka and period of his amassing wealth also. In Vrischika- > > > Meena- Karka in 1996 with Mars aspecting the tenth house he was even > > > Defence Minister for a brief period during the ill fated 13 days > > > government of Atal Behari Vajpai. > > > > > > > > From Tula Kumbha 3 July 2003 with Amatyakaraka falling in the > > > eighth house he failed with his India Shining slogan and the NDA > > > government and BJP fell from power. TV predictions of some > > > astrologers Almost all astrologers said that the transit of Moon in > > > Mesha could be fatal but all of them added that if he survived that, > > > he would recover. > > > > > > > > With so many combinations for fatality present even from Mithuna > > > lagna, how was Mahajan's survival seen ? > > > > > > > > From Vrisha lagna, the inevitable was visible more easily. I had a > > > different view it will be Saturn- Rahu-Mercury which was rather bad. > > > But to say, that he would recover after that appeared impossible to > > > me. And ofcourse Moon in Mesha is a signal of danger. And later Moon > > > in Mithuna would be equally dangerous as it would aspect the > > > Karakamsha and also the pada of the eighth lord together with Mars. > > > > > > > > The period that would continue after will not be less fatal. There > > > was no chance of a recovery at all. It was prudent to avoid > > > television channels and discuss the available horoscope of Mahajan > > > quietly in our astrological circles, I decided. > > > > > > > > As in the case of news in general so too in the case of Mahajan, > > > balanced news coverage > > > > was available only in the Doordarshan which is government > > > controlled and has a tradition of dignity, news sense presented by > > > mature and experience journalists. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGICAL ANALYSIS > > > > The analysis we had arrived at was the following. > > > > > > > > Vimshottari dasha > > > > In Vimshottari dasha it is Saturn-Rahu-Mercury from 6 January 2006 > > > to 3 June 2006 and Mercury here is the second lord and maraka. > > > > > > > > Chara dasha > > > > The picture is clearer in Jaimini's Chara Dasha in which it is > > > Kanya which contains both the Atmakaraka and the Karakamsha. The > > > antardasha is Mesha from 31 May 2005 to 31 May 2006. This is eighth > > > from Karakamsha and fatal. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sthira dasha > > > > The picture is equally depressing in Jaimini Sthira dasha.. It is > > > Mesha Mesha upto 5 May 2006. So no hope can he held out. May 5 is > > > like a distant date now.This is eighth from Karakamsha and fatal . > > > Mesha is eighth from Karakamsha and Atmakaraka and from here, > > > Bhartikaraka, Mars is in the eighth house showing the brother being > > > in trouble. Mesha antardasha is aspected by Mars and Saturn showing > > > the violent incident. > > > > > > > > The transit of the day > > > > Both the lagna lord Venus and Moon are in Kanya on which Ketu has > > > been transitting and now Saturn from Karka and Mars from Mithuna are > > > aspecting it showing the dangerous event clearly. The fifth house > > > from Vrisha represents the stomach region, as a student pointed out. > > > > > > > > Tajak > > > > A colleague in the Institute of Astrology, Bharatiya Vidya Bhawan, > > > Sri Saxena, worked on the Tajak of Pramod Mahajan and told me that > > > the conclusion I had come to, of it being the end of everything for > > > Mahajan, was confirmed through the annual horoscope also. Here Mars > > > in the fifth house aspecting Saturn in the eighth is ominous enough > > > and Saturn is the third lord also. Here Muntha is in the second house > > > aspected by Saturn and the lord of Muntha, Saturn is in the eighth > > > house aspected by Mars. The fatal picture drawn from Vimshottari and > > > Jaimini's Chara dasha is corroborated. > > > > > > > > Bhrigu approach > > > > As I was writing this, S. S.dropped in and I asked him to give a > > > Bhrigu analysis presuming the data to be accurate. SS has been doing > > > some remarkable researches in Bhrigu and wants to remain anynymous > > > for some personal reasons. He did it and said that nothing was good > > > and there was no hope. > > > > > > > > I decided to post this piece in the first week of May, as in Sthira > > > dasha, the fatal period is upto 5 May. > > > > > > > > NOTE > > > > I had told a BJP leader of middle level about a political > > > assassination a week before the tragedy of Mahajan and I will > > > disclose it later. > > > > (Written in parts between 25 April and 2 May 2006) > > > > > > > > > > > > THE PREDICTION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF A POLITICAL LEADER > > > > K.N.Rao. > > > > > > > > The horoscope of BJP must reflect and it is here that I must tell > > > readers that I had made a prediction that there would be the > > > assassination of a leader soon. These are very confidential > > > predictions and so sensitive that I do not want anyone other than the > > > person to whom I tell it, to even get an inkling of it. > > > > See the letter below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > Prof K.N.Rao. > > > > FEROZE VARUN GANDHI > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > I was deeply shocked to hear of the misfortune that had befallen > > > Pramodji. I remembered the prediction made to me a week earlier that > > > a major assassination of a political leader would take place soon. I > > > have been thinking about your prediction and several others made by > > > you over the last year. The accuracy of them continues to astound me. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Varun > > > > 27/4/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subsequent to this, I received many phones from many people asking > > > me what was my prediction about Pramod Mahajan. I told them that I > > > had no doubt that the horoscope I was using in his case was correct > > > and on this basis I would not even give one percent chance to Mahajan > > > for survival. This prediction of mine did not seem to be in line with > > > the periodical medical bulletins someone told me. Astrologers were > > > optimistic of his prediction if he survived April but I was not at > > > any stage. > > > > The immediate fatal date after 27/28 April would be before 5 May I > > > told them. I have discussed the basis for this in the main body of > > > the article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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