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The Predictions made in this Group are becoming more and more

inaccurate.Pramod Mahajan's case is just one of the many predictions

which have gone wrong and the excuse would be to blame on the time of

birth.Which i may say was right with a 200% surity.

 

Also predictions made by leading gurus are going wrong.The case of

Sachin Tendulkar is the biggest example.If you go and take a look at

some ebook which has some parts on Sachin Tendulkar say that he his

going to have a glorious time in the current year, which as you can

see has been the opposite.There was also a mention of this in one of

the posts in October last year.

 

And There have been many such cases like these!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Noname Noname <nameisego

wrote:

>

> I pray for the departed soul.

>

>

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> dear friends

>

> shri pramod mahajan passed away today at 1610 hours in mumbai. may

> the departed soul rest in peace.

>

> with best regards

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar"

> <sarbani@> wrote:

> >

> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> >

> > Dear Rhoda,

> >

> > The situation was unchanged from the beginning. His lungs, blood

> pressure

> > and kidneys were artificially maintained right from the go. This

> means

> > organ failure. Any question of treatment, let alone improvement,

> can be

> > discussed, only when, by some magic, these organic failures

reverse

> > themselves, and Mr. Mahajan is taken off all the artificial

> support, and

> > his body begins to function normally. Only then can you begin

> treatment and

> > and talk of improvement etc. It was pretty obvious the doctors

> were waiting

> > out the period. What is happening is the natural consequences of

> organ

> > failure. I think the doctors were expecting it. In fact I think

> they were

> > expecting it earlier.

> >

> > This is a non-astrological observation.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sarbani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Rhoda

> Reporter

> > Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:39 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] pramod jee ( MAY DAY from doctors)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > dear list,

> > i have just got some information from my husband that pramod

> jee is in

> > a very critical condition .with doctors finally calling out MAY

> DAY.this

> > info was given by rahul his son to my husband. i called up

> kishorjee and

> > told him about it. we checked the prashna at that time and it

> seemed a bit

> > bright.lagna leo with lord of lagna in aries 9th house.sun is

> placed well,

> > so there is hope i guess.i do not do prashnas myself ever , but

> from what i

> > gather..and what ever the gurus have predicted , pramod jee will

> survive...

> > what are your views on this current information?

> > please dear friends do give us your views.

> > thanks and regards

> > rhoda

> >

> >

> >

> > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

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> > big.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astrology

> > </gads?

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> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > * Visit your group "vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology> " on the web.

> >

> >

> > *

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology?

> subject=Un>

> >

> >

> > * Terms of

> Service

> > <> .

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- (AT) (DOT)

com

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope

Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

> Terms of

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A few comments.

 

Unless astrologers as a community become more vigilant in

confirming someone's actual birth data before making their

predictions, this embarrassing trend of woeful predictions

will continue. In the case of Pramod Mahajan, I have seen the

birth year given as 1948 or 1949 and there has also been

conjecture about even his time of birth. But yet predictions

are seemingly made off the top of one's head without ever

verifying or questioning the birth information based upon

past events in the person's life. Furthermore, in the case of

political figures who understand the power of astrology to

influence public opinion, some of them deliberately give

out false birth details in order to throw astrologers off the

track, and yet this point seems to be rarely taken into account

by even some of the most experienced astrologers, and they

appear to be fooled time and time again. This is a careless

trend that need not continue if the astrologer refuses to accept

anyone's birth date at face value or take it for granted before

making public predictions. Just my two-cents worth.

 

Haizen Paige

 

 

vedic astrology, "vivahsearch" <vivahsearch wrote:

>

> The Predictions made in this Group are becoming more and more

> inaccurate.Pramod Mahajan's case is just one of the many predictions

> which have gone wrong and the excuse would be to blame on the time of

> birth.Which i may say was right with a 200% surity.

>

> Also predictions made by leading gurus are going wrong.The case of

> Sachin Tendulkar is the biggest example.If you go and take a look at

> some ebook which has some parts on Sachin Tendulkar say that he his

> going to have a glorious time in the current year, which as you can

> see has been the opposite.There was also a mention of this in one of

> the posts in October last year.

>

> And There have been many such cases like these!!!!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

vedic astrology, Noname Noname <nameisego@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I pray for the departed soul.

> >

> >

> >

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > dear friends

> >

> > shri pramod mahajan passed away today at 1610 hours in mumbai. may

> > the departed soul rest in peace.

> >

> > with best regards

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar"

> > <sarbani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> > >

> > > Dear Rhoda,

> > >

> > > The situation was unchanged from the beginning. His lungs, blood

> > pressure

> > > and kidneys were artificially maintained right from the go. This

> > means

> > > organ failure. Any question of treatment, let alone improvement,

> > can be

> > > discussed, only when, by some magic, these organic failures

> reverse

> > > themselves, and Mr. Mahajan is taken off all the artificial

> > support, and

> > > his body begins to function normally. Only then can you begin

> > treatment and

> > > and talk of improvement etc. It was pretty obvious the doctors

> > were waiting

> > > out the period. What is happening is the natural consequences of

> > organ

> > > failure. I think the doctors were expecting it. In fact I think

> > they were

> > > expecting it earlier.

> > >

> > > This is a non-astrological observation.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sarbani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of Rhoda

> > Reporter

> > > Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:39 PM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] pramod jee ( MAY DAY from doctors)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > dear list,

> > > i have just got some information from my husband that pramod

> > jee is in

> > > a very critical condition .with doctors finally calling out MAY

> > DAY.this

> > > info was given by rahul his son to my husband. i called up

> > kishorjee and

> > > told him about it. we checked the prashna at that time and it

> > seemed a bit

> > > bright.lagna leo with lord of lagna in aries 9th house.sun is

> > placed well,

> > > so there is hope i guess.i do not do prashnas myself ever , but

> > from what i

> > > gather..and what ever the gurus have predicted , pramod jee will

> > survive...

> > > what are your views on this current information?

> > > please dear friends do give us your views.

> > > thanks and regards

> > > rhoda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC

> > and save

> > > big.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Astrology

> > > </gads?

> > t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=V

> > >

> >

> edic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&

> > .sig=Uo

> > > ktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> chart Vedic

> > > </gads?

> > t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=V

> > >

> >

> edic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&

> > .sig=qN

> > > tEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA> astrology Astrology

> > > </gads?

> > t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&

> > >

> >

> w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s

> > =91&.si

> > > g=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew> horoscope

> > > Astrology

> > > </gads?

> > t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w

> > >

> >

> 2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=

> > 91&.sig

> > > =Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw> software

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > * Visit your group "vedic astrology

> > > <vedic astrology> " on the web.

> > >

> > >

> > > *

> > > vedic astrology

> > > <vedic astrology?

> > subject=Un>

> > >

> > >

> > > * Terms of

> > Service

> > > <> .

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- (AT) (DOT)

> com

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope

> Astrology software

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone

> call rates.

> >

> >

> >

>

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Haizen Paige writes:

 

> A few comments.

>

> Unless astrologers as a community become more vigilant in

> confirming someone's actual birth data before making their

> predictions, this embarrassing trend of woeful predictions

> will continue. In the case of Pramod Mahajan, I have seen the

> birth year given as 1948 or 1949 and there has also been

> conjecture about even his time of birth. But yet predictions

> are seemingly made off the top of one's head without ever

> verifying or questioning the birth information based upon

> past events in the person's life. Furthermore, in the case of

> political figures who understand the power of astrology to

> influence public opinion, some of them deliberately give

> out false birth details in order to throw astrologers off the

> track, and yet this point seems to be rarely taken into account

> by even some of the most experienced astrologers, and they

> appear to be fooled time and time again. This is a careless

> trend that need not continue if the astrologer refuses to accept

> anyone's birth date at face value or take it for granted before

> making public predictions. Just my two-cents worth.

 

That problem was addressed in the USA by the late Lois Rodden, who made it

her cause to make sure that birth days and times were accurate and

established standards of what a good birth time is. She single-handily

changed the way astrologers treat that data, and her database is considered

singularly accurate. It is even now updated by those who find better

information in the astrological community. Rodden either hunted down birth

certificates or sent others to find them. She interviewed people, and used

all other forms of investigatory means to ascertain proper times. I noticed,

for example, on this list a while back a discussion about Oprah Winfrey

where the entire discussion was based on a wrong birth time, hours off, not

just minutes. An effort to put a worldwide database of accurate times, times

that have been tracked down and verified, is not impossible in this

electronic age.

 

Best regards,

 

Kalev Pehme

http://www.myspace.com/21146994

http://blog.myspace.com/21146994

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