2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

[Guest guest]

Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

adamant!

There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

 

swati

 

 

--- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag wrote:

 

> 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> you ...

>

> No need of astrology in this case

>

> )))))))))

>

>

> vedic astrology,

> "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swatilji:

> >

> > The child is undergoing his first round of

> sade-saathi at this

> young

> > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> currently. Jupiter

> is

> > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> 6th house

> (illness,

> > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> So, the

> influences

> > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> which may indicate

> his

> > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> this behaviour

> > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> teach this child

> > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> house) may make him

> a

> > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> indicates that he

> will

> > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> raaja yogams in this

> > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> pattern, you are

> > bringing up a future success!

> >

> > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> times for 45

> days

> > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> pattern will help

> > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> to the Mother

> > everyday.

> >

> > My blessings to you and the child.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> vedic astrology,

> > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > >

> > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > his birth deatils are as under

> > >

> > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > time:21:26

> > > place chicago

> > >

> > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> temper?

> > >

> > > swati

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

HI SWATI,

MY BROTHER CHILD IS SAME WAY

HE WONT LISTEN TO HIM AND WILL BE AGRESSIVE BUT HE LISTEN TO ME AS I AM UNCLE

AND SHOWER HIM MORE ATTENTION THAN DAD.

YOU SHOULD GET HIM ACTIVE IN SOME GAME OR SO I TOOK MY KIDS TO BOYS SCOUT AND

BECAME ASST SCOUT MASTER FOR MY SON.

I AM TRYING FOR MY NEPHEW TOO AS IN USA KIDS NITHER ARE AMERICAN NOR GET GOOD

INDIAN SOCIAL LIFE LIKE WE DID

SO GIVE HIM LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING HE MAY IMPROVE THAN.

HE DO NOT DESREVE ZAPAD LOVE WIL CURE THE PROBLEM

RAM

 

swati lakhe <swatil wrote:

Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

adamant!

There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

 

swati

 

 

--- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag wrote:

 

> 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> you ...

>

> No need of astrology in this case

>

> )))))))))

>

>

> vedic astrology,

> "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swatilji:

> >

> > The child is undergoing his first round of

> sade-saathi at this

> young

> > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> currently. Jupiter

> is

> > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> 6th house

> (illness,

> > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> So, the

> influences

> > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> which may indicate

> his

> > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> this behaviour

> > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> teach this child

> > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> house) may make him

> a

> > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> indicates that he

> will

> > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> raaja yogams in this

> > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> pattern, you are

> > bringing up a future success!

> >

> > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> times for 45

> days

> > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> pattern will help

> > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> to the Mother

> > everyday.

> >

> > My blessings to you and the child.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> vedic astrology,

> > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > >

> > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > his birth deatils are as under

> > >

> > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > time:21:26

> > > place chicago

> > >

> > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> temper?

> > >

> > > swati

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Swatiji,

I have wondered about the same issues a lot. I haven't reached any

definite conclusions. But I do believe that eventually discipline is

something that comes from within. The outside enforced ones work

short term. Maybe if someone is extremely mature and can see the

value of it they might accept it and even become grateful for it.

I know some such cases. But I guess for the majority of humanity

zappads mean humiliation and use of force. Maybe that's necessary

once in a very rare while. maybe not, I wish God were here and could

answer that.

But I do wonder why it is that in the Mulk of Zappads, that is hamara

vatan Hidustan, there so much indiscipline. Why can't 1000 million

people raised on uncountable zappads win a rare Gold medal in

Olympics. Although in US too people use discipline for sure, just

that is not physical.

The right way perhaps is to find a way in which kids can learn to

discipline themselves. The good behavior- reward system, enforces

that.

I personally think this deeply held and cherished philosophy of

doling out Zappads like they were Lizzat pappads in our Muluk

Hindustan has done more harm than benefit. I am sure Sachin

Tendulkar and Kapil Dev were not Zappadized too much. In fact kapil's

mom supported his son back in the day when sports were not very

lucrative. Only being a Engineer and a doctor was.

Zappadization leads to unnecessaty desire of revenge, unless the kid

in question is the second incarnation of Lord Rama and completely

scarifices his desires to the better direction of his parents even

when it seems illogical.

Long term effects might be a surging rebellion and tendency to ride

over authority at every possible chance.

I believe studies show that most prison inmates very much Deeply

Zappadized. Most people who end up in boxing, or even in law

enforcement like Cops etc. were subjected to that. They are like

seeking out opportunities to dish out back what was meted out to them

earlier.

I believe Theory Y assumptions ( that people can be self governed and

decent given a chance) work better than Theory X ( people are lazy

and need to be told what to do).

Anywho, this is the theory. I am not competent to comment on it that

much from personal experience of parenting myself.

I am sure a strong case can be made even for Zappads, although at

some deeper level I don't want to believe that.

It would be interesting to know what other members think and how can

astrology can contribute to this very real, very basic human reality

and come up with suitable general guidelines to handle raising a

child. I am sure there must be some in some Vedas too. I recall

reading somewhere that once the Son can wear the shoe size of Dad, he

should be treated like an adult and I salute the Seers for saying

that.

MAybe some learned members can chip in with what needs to be done

before that stage.

Cheers

Azaad

 

 

 

concurrvedic astrology, swati lakhe

<swatil wrote:

>

> Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

> zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

> ,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

> that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

> adamant!

> There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

> certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

> be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

>

> swati

>

>

> --- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag wrote:

>

> > 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> > you ...

> >

> > No need of astrology in this case

> >

> > )))))))))

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> > "dakshinastrologer"

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Swatilji:

> > >

> > > The child is undergoing his first round of

> > sade-saathi at this

> > young

> > > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> > currently. Jupiter

> > is

> > > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> > 6th house

> > (illness,

> > > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> > So, the

> > influences

> > > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> > which may indicate

> > his

> > > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> > this behaviour

> > > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> > teach this child

> > > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> > house) may make him

> > a

> > > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> > indicates that he

> > will

> > > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> > raaja yogams in this

> > > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> > pattern, you are

> > > bringing up a future success!

> > >

> > > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> > times for 45

> > days

> > > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> > pattern will help

> > > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> > to the Mother

> > > everyday.

> > >

> > > My blessings to you and the child.

> > >

> > > Blessed be.

> > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> > vedic astrology,

> > > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > > his birth deatils are as under

> > > >

> > > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > > time:21:26

> > > > place chicago

> > > >

> > > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> > temper?

> > > >

> > > > swati

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ps:

should read " her son"..

 

thanks

 

vedic astrology, "theblisswithin" <azaad

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Swatiji,

> I have wondered about the same issues a lot. I haven't reached any

> definite conclusions. But I do believe that eventually discipline

is

> something that comes from within. The outside enforced ones work

> short term. Maybe if someone is extremely mature and can see the

> value of it they might accept it and even become grateful for it.

> I know some such cases. But I guess for the majority of humanity

> zappads mean humiliation and use of force. Maybe that's necessary

> once in a very rare while. maybe not, I wish God were here and

could

> answer that.

> But I do wonder why it is that in the Mulk of Zappads, that is

hamara

> vatan Hidustan, there so much indiscipline. Why can't 1000 million

> people raised on uncountable zappads win a rare Gold medal in

> Olympics. Although in US too people use discipline for sure, just

> that is not physical.

> The right way perhaps is to find a way in which kids can learn to

> discipline themselves. The good behavior- reward system, enforces

> that.

> I personally think this deeply held and cherished philosophy of

> doling out Zappads like they were Lizzat pappads in our Muluk

> Hindustan has done more harm than benefit. I am sure Sachin

> Tendulkar and Kapil Dev were not Zappadized too much. In fact

kapil's

> mom supported his son back in the day when sports were not very

> lucrative. Only being a Engineer and a doctor was.

> Zappadization leads to unnecessaty desire of revenge, unless the

kid

> in question is the second incarnation of Lord Rama and completely

> scarifices his desires to the better direction of his parents even

> when it seems illogical.

> Long term effects might be a surging rebellion and tendency to

ride

> over authority at every possible chance.

> I believe studies show that most prison inmates very much Deeply

> Zappadized. Most people who end up in boxing, or even in law

> enforcement like Cops etc. were subjected to that. They are like

> seeking out opportunities to dish out back what was meted out to

them

> earlier.

> I believe Theory Y assumptions ( that people can be self governed

and

> decent given a chance) work better than Theory X ( people are lazy

> and need to be told what to do).

> Anywho, this is the theory. I am not competent to comment on it

that

> much from personal experience of parenting myself.

> I am sure a strong case can be made even for Zappads, although at

> some deeper level I don't want to believe that.

> It would be interesting to know what other members think and how

can

> astrology can contribute to this very real, very basic human

reality

> and come up with suitable general guidelines to handle raising a

> child. I am sure there must be some in some Vedas too. I recall

> reading somewhere that once the Son can wear the shoe size of Dad,

he

> should be treated like an adult and I salute the Seers for saying

> that.

> MAybe some learned members can chip in with what needs to be done

> before that stage.

> Cheers

> Azaad

>

>

>

> concurrvedic astrology, swati lakhe

> <swatil@> wrote:

> >

> > Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

> > zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

> > ,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

> > that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

> > adamant!

> > There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

> > certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

> > be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

> >

> > swati

> >

> >

> > --- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag@> wrote:

> >

> > > 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> > > you ...

> > >

> > > No need of astrology in this case

> > >

> > > )))))))))

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > "dakshinastrologer"

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Swatilji:

> > > >

> > > > The child is undergoing his first round of

> > > sade-saathi at this

> > > young

> > > > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> > > currently. Jupiter

> > > is

> > > > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> > > 6th house

> > > (illness,

> > > > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> > > So, the

> > > influences

> > > > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> > > which may indicate

> > > his

> > > > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> > > this behaviour

> > > > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> > > teach this child

> > > > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> > > house) may make him

> > > a

> > > > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> > > indicates that he

> > > will

> > > > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> > > raaja yogams in this

> > > > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> > > pattern, you are

> > > > bringing up a future success!

> > > >

> > > > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> > > times for 45

> > > days

> > > > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> > > pattern will help

> > > > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> > > to the Mother

> > > > everyday.

> > > >

> > > > My blessings to you and the child.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > > > his birth deatils are as under

> > > > >

> > > > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > > > time:21:26

> > > > > place chicago

> > > > >

> > > > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> > > temper?

> > > > >

> > > > > swati

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear friend azaad

 

mr. sehwag's suggestion of giving two zappads and your further

elaboration of the positive results of zappads makes me believe that

in the saama, dana, bheda, dandan remedies of treating a disobedient

person, you are directly going to dandan without giving the first

three a chance.

 

also these days india bashing and US praising has become a habit for

many like you. you might have noticed that india is the only second

country in the world posting the highest GDP growth and all

countries are lined up in investing in india and sharing the indian

success story. even after muslim emperors and christian crusades

invaded,looted our country and took away as much riches as they

could to their homelands, india is still emerging as the world's

second largest economy after china and within 50 years, india is

slated to beat even china to become the world's superpower. you

have been undermining the performance of india in olympics but

forgot the success stories in cricket and chess.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, "theblisswithin" <azaad

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Swatiji,

> I have wondered about the same issues a lot. I haven't reached any

> definite conclusions. But I do believe that eventually discipline

is

> something that comes from within. The outside enforced ones work

> short term. Maybe if someone is extremely mature and can see the

> value of it they might accept it and even become grateful for it.

> I know some such cases. But I guess for the majority of humanity

> zappads mean humiliation and use of force. Maybe that's necessary

> once in a very rare while. maybe not, I wish God were here and

could

> answer that.

> But I do wonder why it is that in the Mulk of Zappads, that is

hamara

> vatan Hidustan, there so much indiscipline. Why can't 1000 million

> people raised on uncountable zappads win a rare Gold medal in

> Olympics. Although in US too people use discipline for sure, just

> that is not physical.

> The right way perhaps is to find a way in which kids can learn to

> discipline themselves. The good behavior- reward system, enforces

> that.

> I personally think this deeply held and cherished philosophy of

> doling out Zappads like they were Lizzat pappads in our Muluk

> Hindustan has done more harm than benefit. I am sure Sachin

> Tendulkar and Kapil Dev were not Zappadized too much. In fact

kapil's

> mom supported his son back in the day when sports were not very

> lucrative. Only being a Engineer and a doctor was.

> Zappadization leads to unnecessaty desire of revenge, unless the

kid

> in question is the second incarnation of Lord Rama and completely

> scarifices his desires to the better direction of his parents even

> when it seems illogical.

> Long term effects might be a surging rebellion and tendency to

ride

> over authority at every possible chance.

> I believe studies show that most prison inmates very much Deeply

> Zappadized. Most people who end up in boxing, or even in law

> enforcement like Cops etc. were subjected to that. They are like

> seeking out opportunities to dish out back what was meted out to

them

> earlier.

> I believe Theory Y assumptions ( that people can be self governed

and

> decent given a chance) work better than Theory X ( people are lazy

> and need to be told what to do).

> Anywho, this is the theory. I am not competent to comment on it

that

> much from personal experience of parenting myself.

> I am sure a strong case can be made even for Zappads, although at

> some deeper level I don't want to believe that.

> It would be interesting to know what other members think and how

can

> astrology can contribute to this very real, very basic human

reality

> and come up with suitable general guidelines to handle raising a

> child. I am sure there must be some in some Vedas too. I recall

> reading somewhere that once the Son can wear the shoe size of Dad,

he

> should be treated like an adult and I salute the Seers for saying

> that.

> MAybe some learned members can chip in with what needs to be done

> before that stage.

> Cheers

> Azaad

>

>

>

> concurrvedic astrology, swati lakhe

> <swatil@> wrote:

> >

> > Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

> > zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

> > ,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

> > that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

> > adamant!

> > There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

> > certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

> > be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

> >

> > swati

> >

> >

> > --- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag@> wrote:

> >

> > > 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> > > you ...

> > >

> > > No need of astrology in this case

> > >

> > > )))))))))

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > "dakshinastrologer"

> > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Swatilji:

> > > >

> > > > The child is undergoing his first round of

> > > sade-saathi at this

> > > young

> > > > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> > > currently. Jupiter

> > > is

> > > > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> > > 6th house

> > > (illness,

> > > > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> > > So, the

> > > influences

> > > > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> > > which may indicate

> > > his

> > > > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> > > this behaviour

> > > > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> > > teach this child

> > > > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> > > house) may make him

> > > a

> > > > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> > > indicates that he

> > > will

> > > > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> > > raaja yogams in this

> > > > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> > > pattern, you are

> > > > bringing up a future success!

> > > >

> > > > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> > > times for 45

> > > days

> > > > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> > > pattern will help

> > > > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> > > to the Mother

> > > > everyday.

> > > >

> > > > My blessings to you and the child.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > > > his birth deatils are as under

> > > > >

> > > > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > > > time:21:26

> > > > > place chicago

> > > > >

> > > > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> > > temper?

> > > > >

> > > > > swati

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Reespected Pandit Arjun,

Thanks for your kind response.

In fact I agree with all of your views. That's what I stated myself.

I don't think zappads work. As you articulated even better than me,

Sam, Daam and Bheda are better. ( Although I suspect they are more of

Chanakya's formulas for dealing with enemies rather than dealing with

children). But children can be motivated in positive ways rather than

punishing them. That was the whole point of my message itself. Please

read it again. I am not sure why you believe I said anything else.

 

I also agree totally about the greatness of India. If overall

indicators are anything to go by, hamara Muluk Hindustan should

becomme at least three of the most powerful countries of the world by

2020 in all possible ways, if not the leader itself.

 

I see no point in India bashing either. But there is certainly a

possibility to become more progressive in the way we deal with each

other and raise kids. Since many members on this list are from there,

this is a 'andar ki baat'. Should we not try to improve in areas

where we can? This is a healthy discussion with no ill wills or any

bashings intended.

 

As far as China India, I am about to write a paper on that myself.

 

Warm Regards

Azaad

 

vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friend azaad

>

> mr. sehwag's suggestion of giving two zappads and your further

> elaboration of the positive results of zappads makes me believe

that

> in the saama, dana, bheda, dandan remedies of treating a

disobedient

> person, you are directly going to dandan without giving the first

> three a chance.

>

> also these days india bashing and US praising has become a habit

for

> many like you. you might have noticed that india is the only

second

> country in the world posting the highest GDP growth and all

> countries are lined up in investing in india and sharing the indian

> success story. even after muslim emperors and christian crusades

> invaded,looted our country and took away as much riches as they

> could to their homelands, india is still emerging as the world's

> second largest economy after china and within 50 years, india is

> slated to beat even china to become the world's superpower. you

> have been undermining the performance of india in olympics but

> forgot the success stories in cricket and chess.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, "theblisswithin" <azaad@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Swatiji,

> > I have wondered about the same issues a lot. I haven't reached

any

> > definite conclusions. But I do believe that eventually discipline

> is

> > something that comes from within. The outside enforced ones work

> > short term. Maybe if someone is extremely mature and can see the

> > value of it they might accept it and even become grateful for it.

> > I know some such cases. But I guess for the majority of humanity

> > zappads mean humiliation and use of force. Maybe that's necessary

> > once in a very rare while. maybe not, I wish God were here and

> could

> > answer that.

> > But I do wonder why it is that in the Mulk of Zappads, that is

> hamara

> > vatan Hidustan, there so much indiscipline. Why can't 1000

million

> > people raised on uncountable zappads win a rare Gold medal in

> > Olympics. Although in US too people use discipline for sure, just

> > that is not physical.

> > The right way perhaps is to find a way in which kids can learn to

> > discipline themselves. The good behavior- reward system, enforces

> > that.

> > I personally think this deeply held and cherished philosophy of

> > doling out Zappads like they were Lizzat pappads in our Muluk

> > Hindustan has done more harm than benefit. I am sure Sachin

> > Tendulkar and Kapil Dev were not Zappadized too much. In fact

> kapil's

> > mom supported his son back in the day when sports were not very

> > lucrative. Only being a Engineer and a doctor was.

> > Zappadization leads to unnecessaty desire of revenge, unless the

> kid

> > in question is the second incarnation of Lord Rama and completely

> > scarifices his desires to the better direction of his parents

even

> > when it seems illogical.

> > Long term effects might be a surging rebellion and tendency to

> ride

> > over authority at every possible chance.

> > I believe studies show that most prison inmates very much Deeply

> > Zappadized. Most people who end up in boxing, or even in law

> > enforcement like Cops etc. were subjected to that. They are like

> > seeking out opportunities to dish out back what was meted out to

> them

> > earlier.

> > I believe Theory Y assumptions ( that people can be self governed

> and

> > decent given a chance) work better than Theory X ( people are

lazy

> > and need to be told what to do).

> > Anywho, this is the theory. I am not competent to comment on it

> that

> > much from personal experience of parenting myself.

> > I am sure a strong case can be made even for Zappads, although at

> > some deeper level I don't want to believe that.

> > It would be interesting to know what other members think and how

> can

> > astrology can contribute to this very real, very basic human

> reality

> > and come up with suitable general guidelines to handle raising a

> > child. I am sure there must be some in some Vedas too. I recall

> > reading somewhere that once the Son can wear the shoe size of

Dad,

> he

> > should be treated like an adult and I salute the Seers for saying

> > that.

> > MAybe some learned members can chip in with what needs to be done

> > before that stage.

> > Cheers

> > Azaad

> >

> >

> >

> > concurrvedic astrology, swati lakhe

> > <swatil@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

> > > zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

> > > ,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

> > > that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

> > > adamant!

> > > There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

> > > certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

> > > be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

> > >

> > > swati

> > >

> > >

> > > --- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> > > > you ...

> > > >

> > > > No need of astrology in this case

> > > >

> > > > )))))))))

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > "dakshinastrologer"

> > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Swatilji:

> > > > >

> > > > > The child is undergoing his first round of

> > > > sade-saathi at this

> > > > young

> > > > > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> > > > currently. Jupiter

> > > > is

> > > > > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> > > > 6th house

> > > > (illness,

> > > > > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> > > > So, the

> > > > influences

> > > > > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> > > > which may indicate

> > > > his

> > > > > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> > > > this behaviour

> > > > > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> > > > teach this child

> > > > > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> > > > house) may make him

> > > > a

> > > > > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> > > > indicates that he

> > > > will

> > > > > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> > > > raaja yogams in this

> > > > > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> > > > pattern, you are

> > > > > bringing up a future success!

> > > > >

> > > > > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> > > > times for 45

> > > > days

> > > > > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> > > > pattern will help

> > > > > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> > > > to the Mother

> > > > > everyday.

> > > > >

> > > > > My blessings to you and the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > > > > his birth deatils are as under

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > > > > time:21:26

> > > > > > place chicago

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> > > > temper?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > swati

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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>

[Guest guest]

dear friend azaad

 

putting the zappads to rest, your patriotic feelings are well

understood. our country is all poised to be the superpower

soonest. as on date china is ahead of india and would look forward

to your paper on india overtakng china, whenever it is ready for you

to share with us.

 

with best wishes

arjun

vedic astrology, "theblisswithin" <azaad

wrote:

>

> Reespected Pandit Arjun,

> Thanks for your kind response.

> In fact I agree with all of your views. That's what I stated

myself.

> I don't think zappads work. As you articulated even better than

me,

> Sam, Daam and Bheda are better. ( Although I suspect they are more

of

> Chanakya's formulas for dealing with enemies rather than dealing

with

> children). But children can be motivated in positive ways rather

than

> punishing them. That was the whole point of my message itself.

Please

> read it again. I am not sure why you believe I said anything else.

>

> I also agree totally about the greatness of India. If overall

> indicators are anything to go by, hamara Muluk Hindustan should

> becomme at least three of the most powerful countries of the world

by

> 2020 in all possible ways, if not the leader itself.

>

> I see no point in India bashing either. But there is certainly a

> possibility to become more progressive in the way we deal with

each

> other and raise kids. Since many members on this list are from

there,

> this is a 'andar ki baat'. Should we not try to improve in areas

> where we can? This is a healthy discussion with no ill wills or

any

> bashings intended.

>

> As far as China India, I am about to write a paper on that myself.

>

> Warm Regards

> Azaad

>

> vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend azaad

> >

> > mr. sehwag's suggestion of giving two zappads and your further

> > elaboration of the positive results of zappads makes me believe

> that

> > in the saama, dana, bheda, dandan remedies of treating a

> disobedient

> > person, you are directly going to dandan without giving the

first

> > three a chance.

> >

> > also these days india bashing and US praising has become a habit

> for

> > many like you. you might have noticed that india is the only

> second

> > country in the world posting the highest GDP growth and all

> > countries are lined up in investing in india and sharing the

indian

> > success story. even after muslim emperors and christian

crusades

> > invaded,looted our country and took away as much riches as they

> > could to their homelands, india is still emerging as the world's

> > second largest economy after china and within 50 years, india is

> > slated to beat even china to become the world's superpower. you

> > have been undermining the performance of india in olympics but

> > forgot the success stories in cricket and chess.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, "theblisswithin"

<azaad@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Swatiji,

> > > I have wondered about the same issues a lot. I haven't reached

> any

> > > definite conclusions. But I do believe that eventually

discipline

> > is

> > > something that comes from within. The outside enforced ones

work

> > > short term. Maybe if someone is extremely mature and can see

the

> > > value of it they might accept it and even become grateful for

it.

> > > I know some such cases. But I guess for the majority of

humanity

> > > zappads mean humiliation and use of force. Maybe that's

necessary

> > > once in a very rare while. maybe not, I wish God were here and

> > could

> > > answer that.

> > > But I do wonder why it is that in the Mulk of Zappads, that is

> > hamara

> > > vatan Hidustan, there so much indiscipline. Why can't 1000

> million

> > > people raised on uncountable zappads win a rare Gold medal in

> > > Olympics. Although in US too people use discipline for sure,

just

> > > that is not physical.

> > > The right way perhaps is to find a way in which kids can learn

to

> > > discipline themselves. The good behavior- reward system,

enforces

> > > that.

> > > I personally think this deeply held and cherished philosophy

of

> > > doling out Zappads like they were Lizzat pappads in our Muluk

> > > Hindustan has done more harm than benefit. I am sure Sachin

> > > Tendulkar and Kapil Dev were not Zappadized too much. In fact

> > kapil's

> > > mom supported his son back in the day when sports were not

very

> > > lucrative. Only being a Engineer and a doctor was.

> > > Zappadization leads to unnecessaty desire of revenge, unless

the

> > kid

> > > in question is the second incarnation of Lord Rama and

completely

> > > scarifices his desires to the better direction of his parents

> even

> > > when it seems illogical.

> > > Long term effects might be a surging rebellion and tendency

to

> > ride

> > > over authority at every possible chance.

> > > I believe studies show that most prison inmates very much

Deeply

> > > Zappadized. Most people who end up in boxing, or even in law

> > > enforcement like Cops etc. were subjected to that. They are

like

> > > seeking out opportunities to dish out back what was meted out

to

> > them

> > > earlier.

> > > I believe Theory Y assumptions ( that people can be self

governed

> > and

> > > decent given a chance) work better than Theory X ( people are

> lazy

> > > and need to be told what to do).

> > > Anywho, this is the theory. I am not competent to comment on

it

> > that

> > > much from personal experience of parenting myself.

> > > I am sure a strong case can be made even for Zappads, although

at

> > > some deeper level I don't want to believe that.

> > > It would be interesting to know what other members think and

how

> > can

> > > astrology can contribute to this very real, very basic human

> > reality

> > > and come up with suitable general guidelines to handle

raising a

> > > child. I am sure there must be some in some Vedas too. I

recall

> > > reading somewhere that once the Son can wear the shoe size of

> Dad,

> > he

> > > should be treated like an adult and I salute the Seers for

saying

> > > that.

> > > MAybe some learned members can chip in with what needs to be

done

> > > before that stage.

> > > Cheers

> > > Azaad

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > concurrvedic astrology, swati lakhe

> > > <swatil@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Let me tell u that if anybody sees me giving him

> > > > zapads here in USA it can cause a lot of problems

> > > > ,despite that I have given him a lot of zapads and

> > > > that seems to work exactly opposite, he becomes more

> > > > adamant!

> > > > There are certain reasons behind why someone ask's

> > > > certain question's so if u r not able to help it will

> > > > be best if u could keep your mouth shut!

> > > >

> > > > swati

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- sagarsehwag <sagarsehwag@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > 2 zappad do .......... he will start listening to

> > > > > you ...

> > > > >

> > > > > No need of astrology in this case

> > > > >

> > > > > )))))))))

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > > "dakshinastrologer"

> > > > > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Swatilji:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The child is undergoing his first round of

> > > > > sade-saathi at this

> > > > > young

> > > > > > age. He is running Venus dasa Jupiter Bhukti

> > > > > currently. Jupiter

> > > > > is

> > > > > > the lord of the 3rd house (indicating courage) and

> > > > > 6th house

> > > > > (illness,

> > > > > > enmity, etc.). Venus is exalted in the 6th house.

> > > > > So, the

> > > > > influences

> > > > > > of 6th house predominate in his life currently

> > > > > which may indicate

> > > > > his

> > > > > > aggressiveness. You may expect a slight change in

> > > > > this behaviour

> > > > > > pattern after March 2007. However, you should

> > > > > teach this child

> > > > > > patience because Mars in the 2nd house (in own

> > > > > house) may make him

> > > > > a

> > > > > > rude speaker, and lagna lord in the 6th house

> > > > > indicates that he

> > > > > will

> > > > > > be his own undoing! There are some wonderful

> > > > > raaja yogams in this

> > > > > > horoscope. If you can change his rude behaviour

> > > > > pattern, you are

> > > > > > bringing up a future success!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chanting the 29th slokham of Soundarya Lahiri 1000

> > > > > times for 45

> > > > > days

> > > > > > praying for improvement in the child's behaviour

> > > > > pattern will help

> > > > > > matters. You should offer rice mixed with jaggery

> > > > > to the Mother

> > > > > > everyday.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My blessings to you and the child.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Blessed be.

> > > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI--- In

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > > > "swatil" <swatil@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > he looses his temper at the smallest thing

> > > > > > > his birth deatils are as under

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DOB march 8th 2001

> > > > > > > time:21:26

> > > > > > > place chicago

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can someone tell me if there's a remedy for his

> > > > > temper?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > swati

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

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