Bhrigu Bindu Progression in Annual Charts (Subject: Chandra Upapada/Surya Upapada and Bhrigu Bindu Questions)

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Dear Sourav,

 

Chandra upapada and Surya upapada are the arudha padas of the 12th house from

Moon an Sun respectively. My guru Pt Sanjay Rath did teach me once what they are

supposed to show, but I did not fully understand and hence do not want to talk

about it.

 

When one does not fully understand what is shown by the 12 house from Moon and

the 12th house from Sun, how can one understand what is shown by their arudha

padas?

 

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Regarding Bhrigu Bindus, I have something to say.

 

I found interesting results when I tried them in annual Tithi Pravesha charts

(soli-lunar counterpart of Tajaka varshaphal charts of solar calendar).

 

What I did was to find the mid-point of Moon and Rahu (known as "Bhrigu bindu"

or BB). Then I progressed it to cover 360 degrees in 360 tithis (soli-lunar

days). However, I did not progress with a uniform speed. I progressed it

non-linearly based on Vimsottari dasa years. For example, under Vimsottari dasa,

Aswini star gives only 7 years while Bharani star gives 20 years. So I

progressed BB by 360 deg within 360 tithis in the ratio of Vimsottari dasa

years. For example, suppose BB is at the beginning of Aswini in the annual TP

chart. Then it will cover Aswini star in the first 7 tithis after annual TP and

cover Bharani star in the next 20 tithis and so on. As you cover all the 27

stars (i.e. 360 deg), you will then have finished 360 tithis! Thus, BB is

progressed slowly in some areas of the zodiac and progressed fast in some other

areas. It is a non-linear progression. I got good results only with this. With

normal linear progression, the results are off by several degrees.

 

As BB is progressed using the above progression, what I found is that it touches

important planetary positions (or 180 deg points from them) on the days of

important events. Also, the planet being touched by progressed BB has a link to

the event. Planet's position is not progressed from its position in the annual

TP chart and only BB is.

 

I will give a couple of examples.

 

I will use my own chart. My birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

Machilipatnam, India (81e12, 16n15).

 

(1) On 10th Nov 1994, I left India and I have been away since then. The annual

TP chart of 1994-95 is cast at 4:46:56 am (IST) on 9th April 1994 (at

birthplace). Saturn is the 12th lord in 12th house at 14Aq23. He can show

displacement from motherland. In fact, Saturn's annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa

started on 5th Nov 1994 and that brought the move abroad.

 

The BB for the year is at 2Cp28. This falls in Uttarashadha star. If we count

the tithis from the annual TP time to Nov 10 (i.e. from Phalguna Krishna

Chaturdasi to Kartika Sukla Ashtami), we get about 219 tithis (2 tithis in

Phalguna month, 30 each in Chaitra, Vaisakha, Jyeshtha, Ashadha, Sravana,

Bhadrapada and Aswayuja months and 7 in Kartika month - event happened at the

beginning of Ashtami). BB progresses thru the remaining part in Uttarashadha in

3 tithis. It progresses thru 9 stars from Sravanam till Krittika in the next 120

tithis. Thus, we get to the beginning of Rohini after 123 tithis. We have

219-123=96 tithis. Rohini (10), Mrigasira (7), Ardra (18), Punarvasu (16),

Pushyami (19), Asresha (17) and Magha (7) cover 94 tithis out of the 96 tithis.

So, at the time of the event, progressed BB is in Poorvashadha star and

progressed 2/20=1/10th through the nakshatra. Poorvashada star starts at 13Le20.

If we add 1/10th of a star, i.e. 1 deg 20 min, we get 14Le40. That is the

longitude of progressed BB on 10th Nov. Interestingly, Saturn is at 14Aq23 in

the annual TP chart! So the 180 deg point from progressed BB touches Saturn. As

mentioned earlier, Saturn is the 12th lord 12th and shows leaving motherland.

 

(2) On 28th May 1987, I stood state first in my state in Intermediate exams

(higher secondary school exams). The annual TP chart of 1987-88 is cast at

12:31:29 am on 28th March 1987 (at birthplace). The event happened on 28th May,

i.e. Jyeshtha Sukla Pratipat tithi. From Phalguna Krishna Chaturdasi to Jyeshtha

Sukla Pratipat, it is 2+30+30+1=63 tithis (event happened at the end of

Pratipat).

 

BB in the annual TP chart is at 4Pi26, i.e. 8.25% into the Uttarabhadra star. So

91.75% of the 19 tithis of Uttarachadra are left. Thus, progressed BB reaches

the end of Uttarabhadra after 19x0.9175=17.5 tithis (approx). Revati (17),

Aswini (7) and Bharani (20) cover the next 44 tithis. The count comes to 61.5

tithis (17.5+44). Now, 1.5 tithis corresponding to Krittika are left. Krittika

belonging to Sun gets 6 tithis. So this is 1/4th of the star. Hence BB is around

0Ta0. Note that Mars is at 0Ta21 in that annual TP chart! Mars is the lord of

the the 5th house of recognition and fame and he occupies the 6th house of

success in competition!

 

In fact, if we progress BB non-linearly within a nakshatra too, we will realize

that progressed BB is not at 0Ta0, but a little ahead!

 

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Essentially, the progression I am talking of here is based on Tribhagi

Vimsottari dasa!!! Find Tribhagi Vimsottari dasa started from BB and map each

mahadasa to a star (an arc of 13.33 deg). Within a mahadasa, map each antardasa

to an arc of length 13.333/9 deg. Within each antardasa, map each pratyantardasa

to an arc of length 13.3333/81 deg. And so on. Finding the mahadasa, antardasa,

pratyantardasa etc, we can find the longitude of progressed BB.

 

Dasas have a variable length (Sun dasa corresponding to Krittika is of 6 tithis

and Venus dasa corresponding to Bharani is of 20 tithis), but they cover the

same length in the zodiac (13 deg 20 min). Similarly, Sun antardasa in Sun dasa

and Venus antardasa in Sun dasa have different lengths in terms of time, but

they should cover the same length in the zodiac (1/9th of 13 deg 20 min).

 

This is where I strongly feel that Krishnamurthi (of KP) blundered. There may be

many people who feel that his approach works, but, as I see, it is not based on

sound logic. If stars of the same length in terms of degrees have different

lengths in terms of dasa time, why can't the same thing apply to subs (divisions

of stars based on antardasas)? What is the basis for dividing stars

non-uniformly in the ratio of dasa/antardasa time? It is totally illogical.

Something that is illogical cannot be correct no matter what thousands of people

may say.

 

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This is a hit or miss technique and IMHO not so useful practically. I do not use

it in practical predictions. Though I use annual TP charts, I use TA dasa for

timing within a year. I do not use this technique.

 

However, this kind of techniques should be investigated and refined. Jyotish is

an ocean of techniques. Every drop of this ocean is worth studying.

 

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I am cc'ing this mail to some other groups that may find this interesting.

 

BTW, I had a blessed trip to India. I visited 25 temples in south India and

performed a Sata Chandi homam at a Kalikamba temple in the first week of March.

Everything went great and I am back in US now.

 

May the light of Brahman shine within,

Narasimha

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sohamsa, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Srivastava-ji,

> namaskar. Thank you for intending to help me on this. No, I do not have

> the said pdf. I am aware of Ramadas-ji's son's marriage. I correspond

> with him regularly. I have read C. S. Patel's articles on Bhrigu Bindu

> transits. I was hoping to know more in our tradition (Sri Jagannatha

> Parampara) if Bhrigu Bindu is used. Similarly. I wanted to know if other

> similar bindu's can be defined: example, between Sun and Moon or Sun and

> Rahu etc. I have Pt. Santhanam's translation of Deva Keralam. If you

> find any suitable slokas refering to Chandra/Surya Upapada, it will help

> me if you can refer to sloka numbers. Thanks again. Best wishes,

> Sourav ===========================================================

> sohamsa, "Swami Daivyaga" <swami_rcs@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > II Om Gurave Namah II

> > Hari om , Friend,

> > Saurav Nameste,

> > Bhrigu Bindu Progression is implemented in Gorvani Jyotish and Digital

> > Jyotish .

> > PDF Manual OF Gorvani jyotish describes it on page159 to 162 or so

> through

> > old messages .

> > I think Sh.Ramdas ji on vedic astrology is disciple of R.G.Rao ,

> currently

> > he is off the list for marriage of his son.. Sh R.G.Rao perhaps

> disclosed

> > it.May be Shri C.S.Patel.Both are veteran in fields of Nadi.

> > If you do not get PDF please let me know in my old desktop i may be

> having

> > and can send you.

> > Surys-Chandra upapada has not come to my notice so far.I have all the

> three

> > Volumes of Chandra kala nadi and writings of Jagannath Bhasin on the

> subject

> > of Chandra kala nadi. if i come acrross in some i shall let you know.

> > Hope information is useful . i myself have but little experiece of

> this

> > techniques

> > for when i read it i had no computers.

> >

> >

> > Chandra Upapada/Surya Upapada and Bhrigu Bindu Questions

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Gurujanas,

> >

> > Pranam and Namaskar. Would you kindly

> > instruct me about the following? Please provide some

> > information/articles (if any, as applicable).

> >

> > (1) Usage of Chandra Upapada and Surya Upapada - What is the import

> and

> > what are the practical usages. Sanjay-ji mentions on footnote of one

> of

> > his articles about these in Deva Keralam. But So far I have not come

> > across these.

> >

> > (2) Bhrigu Bindu (longitudinal mid-point between Rahu-Moon in their

> > natal positions). C.S. Patel writes that significant events can be

> > predicted from malefic/benefic transits (especially malefic transit of

> > Saturn) on this imaginary point (or trines).

> >

> > Thank you for your kindness.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav