Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Dear Mukesh, You "think it is a chart of a spiritual or mystical Guru". The interpretations so far for exalted Ju in 8th miss out on the ineluctability of Randhrastana that 8th is. Exaltation of Ju will give rise to non-shortage of things signified by him. But their delivery (to lagna) is another matter. Since the 1st-house matters and of course the 4th-house matters are not in his karakatwa purview (ie, Ju is neither karaka for 1st hse nor for 4th hse), and since here the lord of 4th goes to 8th, an incarceration scenario remains to be examined, particularly when there are not any mitigating benefic influences on the lagna. (Or are there? I won't know from the current givens.) It is debatable whether we can call the lagna strong here. Lagna lord's exaltation but in the most difficult of the houses is the consideration here. Is Me in lagna or aspecting it? Is Ven in it or aspecting it? No and no. No shubha yoga can be channalised when the lagna is weak. Now, activated 8th is fine for mysricism. Without 9th (refinement, idealism), the 4th (purity of feelings), and 12th (oreintation towards the way out) -- all of them house-cornerstones of spiritual success -- we will have incomplete grounds for such an interpretation. I gather, Saturn with Rahu is in 9th. Rahu in 9th will coarsen things in the uppermost storey. Ketu there, though, would have been conducive to trance/turiya state. But not the only decider. Spiritual unfoldment and evolvement is a symphony. We need many notes, Mukesh. Best RK Dash vedic astrology, "Mukesh verma" <astromukesh wrote: > > Dear All, > > Thank you for your consideration of my case. I would like to give you some > more details of this chart as I think it is a chart of a spiritual or > mystical Guru. > > In this chart that i am working on: > Exalted Jupiter is in 8 house (Cancer) conjunct Budh at the same degree in > the nakshatra of budh( Ashlesha) itself. > In saptamansha, navamsha & dashamsha both Jupiter & Budh remain conjunct in > the same house in each of the amshas. > > IMPORTANT -- > -------- > Moon (8 lord) is in 2 house( Shravana nakshatra) in direct opposition to > budh and guru. > In saptamansha, navamansha & dashamansha moon remains in direct opposition > to budh & guru in each of the amshas. > -------- > Shani & Rahu are conjunct in 9 house in Leo rashi in Poorvafalguni > nakshatra. > In saptamansha, navamansha & dashamansha shani & rahu remain i n the same > house in each of the amshas. > -------- > > I think that this combination should give rise to a Spiritual Guru with > mystical powers, especially when the Guru mahadasha begins. > Please through some light on this matter. > > Kind regards, > Mukesh Verma > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dear R K Dash, Thanks a lot for your concern and understandable prognosis of this case, however, I think that you probably need to look in to other details of this chart as they were missing in my last mail. I really appreciated your correct and clear reading of the issues related to incarceration and trance nature of ketu. Also, what do you mean by "coarsen things in the uppermost storey" for Rahu....? Details of this chart are as follows: -------------------------- date: 11 July 1979 >Time: 18:20 (wednesday) evening >Place: Delhi >Latitude: 28o40' N | Longitude: 77o13' E -------------------------- This chart is the one which i think is of a spiritual or mystical guru. In his chart : 12 lord mars is in 6 house 9 lord sun is in 7 house with venus 8 lord moon in 2 house DOES this mean that there is a strong Spiritual inclination and possibility of becoming a guru....? I Strongly Think that in the GURU Mahadasha he will lean towards Spirituality and become a Guru. Do you see any such possibilty....? Best regards Mukesh Verma ---------- Forwarded message ---------- arkaydash <arkaydash Mar 24, 2006 5:45 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Fwd: Exalted jupiter in 8th house, ... (Think symphony) vedic astrology Dear Mukesh, You "think it is a chart of a spiritual or mystical Guru". The interpretations so far for exalted Ju in 8th miss out on the ineluctability of Randhrastana that 8th is. Exaltation of Ju will give rise to non-shortage of things signified by him. But their delivery (to lagna) is another matter. Since the 1st-house matters and of course the 4th-house matters are not in his karakatwa purview (ie, Ju is neither karaka for 1st hse nor for 4th hse), and since here the lord of 4th goes to 8th, an incarceration scenario remains to be examined, particularly when there are not any mitigating benefic influences on the lagna. (Or are there? I won't know from the current givens.) It is debatable whether we can call the lagna strong here. Lagna lord's exaltation but in the most difficult of the houses is the consideration here. Is Me in lagna or aspecting it? Is Ven in it or aspecting it? No and no. No shubha yoga can be channalised when the lagna is weak. Now, activated 8th is fine for mysricism. Without 9th (refinement, idealism), the 4th (purity of feelings), and 12th (oreintation towards the way out) -- all of them house-cornerstones of spiritual success -- we will have incomplete grounds for such an interpretation. I gather, Saturn with Rahu is in 9th. Rahu in 9th will coarsen things in the uppermost storey. Ketu there, though, would have been conducive to trance/turiya state. But not the only decider. Spiritual unfoldment and evolvement is a symphony. We need many notes, Mukesh. Best RK Dash vedic astrology, "Mukesh verma" <astromukesh wrote: > > Dear All, > > Thank you for your consideration of my case. I would like to give you some > more details of this chart as I think it is a chart of a spiritual or > mystical Guru. > > In this chart that i am working on: > Exalted Jupiter is in 8 house (Cancer) conjunct Budh at the same degree in > the nakshatra of budh( Ashlesha) itself. > In saptamansha, navamsha & dashamsha both Jupiter & Budh remain conjunct in > the same house in each of the amshas. > > IMPORTANT -- > -------- > Moon (8 lord) is in 2 house( Shravana nakshatra) in direct opposition to > budh and guru. > In saptamansha, navamansha & dashamansha moon remains in direct opposition > to budh & guru in each of the amshas. > -------- > Shani & Rahu are conjunct in 9 house in Leo rashi in Poorvafalguni > nakshatra. > In saptamansha, navamansha & dashamansha shani & rahu remain i n the same > house in each of the amshas. > -------- > > I think that this combination should give rise to a Spiritual Guru with > mystical powers, especially when the Guru mahadasha begins. > Please through some light on this matter. > > Kind regards, > Mukesh Verma > > > > Astrology chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\ Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Uokti\ PHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\ &w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=q\ NtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA> Astrology horoscope</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+c\ hart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.s\ ig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology software</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+cha\ rt&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig\ =Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw> ------------------------------ - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic astrology>" on the web. - vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\ ups.com?subject=Un> - Terms of Service<> . ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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