Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear friends, Bharatji is probably indicating atma jnana, where in the knowledge about the soul/innerself initiates bhakti- total surrender. My humble opinion is that while Gnana in terms of knowledge- of scriptures, rituals etc is conditional and subject to reasoning, questions and logic, Bhakti is unconditional, unquestioning and is total surrender. No questions asked. Regards Nalini vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Souvik > > I have given the reply to Sri Lakshmi and that is for you too. Just one > interesting thing - > > You wrote: "No Jnana but perfectly understands love." > > , I hope you get the hint. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > > On 3/17/06, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > > > Oops sorry I meant to address Bharatji! :) > > > > Bharatji, > > > > Lets take another simple example. > > > > A 12-18th. months old child. You will definitely agree that child has > > almost no jnana at that stage. > > > > When that child cries and no one can stop him/her, the mother takes the > > child in her arms and showers love and affection. I would also consider this > > as a form of bhakti. > > > > The child keeps quite. > > > > No Jnana but perfectly understands love. > > > > Regards, > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Dear Srinivasji, > > > > There are human understandings that is very complete without bhakti. > > Bhakti has nothing to do there. Mathematics, Physics, Nyaya, the list is > > endless. > > There can be love with absolutely no understanding as to why it is > > there. Looks like you haven't fallen in love in your life! :) > > > > Regards, > > Souvik > > > > > > Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > Mail > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology chart</gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astro logy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXB NeEg> Vedic > > astrology</gads? t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astro logy+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKI dnHA> Astrology > > horoscope</gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=A strology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI- EsRMSq6tgiew> Astrology > > software</gads? t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=As trology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt 6iLuaCw> > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "vedic- astrology<vedic astrology>" > > on the web. > > > > - > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology- ?subject=Un> > > > > - Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 NAMASKAR to all of friends and learned astrologers I am not new to this amazing group but I discontinued to converse since long time. I am an astrologer but I think Vedic Science is like oceans of knowledge which needs a strong, clean and thorough brain to make repeated dips into the oceans to gather the extracts of vedas. I am well enjoying what is being discussed in this group especially about Bhakti. I am very well in accord with the views of Srinivas(Smadavi) that Bhakti is "LOOSING ONES VERY EXISTENCE". A bhakt looses his AHAMKAR when he falls in love of deity. And loosing the state of AHAMKAR makes it possible to feel the oneness with the deity and in more advanced states oneness with the whole of universe and feeling the EXISTENCE of PARAM TATWA. Whereas Jnana moves towards disolution through a logical plane of thoughts to move towards the same goal. That is my concise statement about BHAKTI. Thanks and good wishes to all of you Vishal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Namaste Lakhsmi ji, As mentioned in Yoga Vashishtha,Patarta to go on Gayan Marg,comes from Bhakti marg.Some persons start their journey on bhakti mard,when their bhakti deepens,they transfer to the gayan marg,as was done by Aadi Guru Sankaracharya. They are liberated and do not take re-birth.Those who keep on going on Bhakti Marg,after death they also donot take re-birth.They live in the Dham of their Devta,viz. Go lok,Shiv lok,etc.When the Day of Brahma ends,this whole creation (saristy) ends too,at that time, all such souls who live with varios Devtas,are brought togeather to Brahma ji himself deliver them GAYAN,and these souls too.who have come through Bhagdti marg are liverated.There had been very rare persons,like King Janak,who livarated through Gayanmarg,without going on Bhatimarg.These are only exceptions. I have gathered this opinion after studyingYogVashishtha,VivekChudaMani,Abhdhoot Geeta and sevral other such books. With regards B Lakshmi Ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Pandit ji, Sorry for intruding upon the discussion. But, I am truly perplexed by your statement that bhakti marga > is chosen only by those people who cannot do self-less service nor > have any knowledge to illuminate others. Is Hanuman weak? He's the Fearless One most sought after by every one for protection from all tamasic forces. Does He lack knowledge? He's the navama brahma and is highly learned, his Guru being none other than Surya Bhagavan....the original self-less giver of Light. He always remained the epitome of self-less service, whether it was rendered to Sugriva or Sri Rama. Hanuman personifies Bhakti and had proved that he could remain undefeated even by Sri Rama. Tyagaraja, Ramadas, Pothana, Meera Bai etc were great bhaktas who had to suffer a great deal too because of their attachment to God. If they were weak of heart, i don't think they would have gone through all that. I am sure, ith your knowledge, you'd know of many more such people. As Bharat ji observed all spiritual paths require great patience and persistent courage...in Baba's words.. Shraddha aur Saburi. If God had blessed even rakshasas, it is because they were also great bhaktas...because bhakti, unlike jnana, is not discriminating or judgemental. In Telugu Bhagavatam it is written that even if one thinks of God...paga naina (with hatred), vaga naina (with pain), preethi naina (with love), praana bheethi naina (with fear), it is sufficient to ensure His mercy. God is Mother, He is forever looking for ways to make us feel loved and cherished. He also punishes, if that is the karma we deserve by our actions. But the punishment is also born out of Love. Please forgive me if i have sounded harsh anywhere. Regards, Lakshmi vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear bharat ji > > you prefixed superlatives to bhakti marga and jnana marga and found > karma marga as only preparation of mind. > > i stick to my understanding of karma marga (self-less service like > jesus)as the best and jnana marga (illuminating the minds through > knowledge and sermons like vivekananda) as better and bhakti marga > is chosen only by those people who cannot do self-less service nor > have any knowledge to illuminate others. there are various puranas > and upanishads where it is written that even a person of vile > conduct can reach the god through bhakti marga. several rakshasas > got several boons from gods through bhakti marga. > > in kaliyuga, bhakti marga is preferred and treated as the short cut > by most people to reach god mainly due to their reduced strength to > travel on karma and jnana margas. > > with best wishes and regards > arjun > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Arjun > > > > Karma is born out of the binding and cannot be the cause of > Realization. > > That one is Brahman is already achieved and does not require any > karma to > > fulfill it. It is only a question of realizing it. > > > > Then, what use is of Karma? To come out of the cycle of Karma, > Yoga is > > prescribed. Now what is Karma Yoga? - Performance of your > Obligatory Duty is > > Karma Yoga - This means doing Karma such that no further karma gets > > generated and mind is bereft of worries and anxieties. Mind in > that state is > > ready for Pramana - which is the Vedanta. You can further ask - > How through > > Karma Yoga no further mental aberrations take place? - Because > Karma Yoga > > means performance of your duties without any respect for your > likes and > > dislikes. What are likes and dislikes - The Dwandhas!! > > > > The definition of obligatory duties is given in many texts > including Srimad > > Bhagavad Gita. > > > > Karma Yoga hence, is only a preparation for the mind and not to be > confused > > with actual Jnana. Bhakti and Jnana are same and supreme. > > > > Bhakti and Jnana have no relation to physical strength. To say > people bereft > > of mental strength follow Bhakti is an erroneous conclusion. > Again I > > repeat, only the bravest of the brave are Bhaktas and Jnanis. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On 3/18/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear bharat ji > > > > > > as you rightly observed, all these three margas viz. karma, > bhakti > > > and jnana are all inexplicably intertwined. for any person who > > > marches sincerely on any of these three paths, the destination or > > > realisation is the same. > > > > > > since each person has his or her own constitution of elements, > > > different moral, psychological and spiritual needs and each > > > individual having different idiosyncracies and antagonisms, > based on > > > these differences, people choose these three different paths. > all > > > paths lead to same destination only and no path is inferior or > > > superior to the other. > > > > > > however, in my understanding karma marga in which an individual > does > > > self-less service is the best followed by jnana marga where the > > > person spreads the light of knowledge and the bhakti marga is > meant > > > for those who have no physcial or mental strength to march on > karma > > > and jnana margas. > > > > > > with best wishes and regards > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Lakshmi > > > > > > > > You cannot be a Jnani without having Bhakti or vice versa. I > can > > > explain > > > > this but neither you nor Sri Souvik are going to be satisfied. > > > This is best > > > > seen within oneself. For enabling the same, let me leave some > > > pointers: > > > > > > > > Intellectual understanding is not Jnana. For example- for me to > > > say All is > > > > Brahman, you may appreciate it intellectually, but, may not > > > realize the > > > > enormity of this statement. The understanding can only come > through > > > > surrender. And what is surrender - Bhakti! > > > > > > > > Now look at the opposite - Bhakti is surrender - Can it come > > > without Jnana > > > > that All is the Lord. What did Sri Ramakrishna see - Ma within > and > > > without - > > > > He was the greatest Jnani. Same with Sri Hanuman. Sri Ramana > > > Maharishi was a > > > > greatest Bhakta - he surrendered to Lord of Death. > > > > > > > > The measure of a person's spirituality is by the enormity of > > > reactions he > > > > has to his environment. The person who is a bhakta - > surrenders and > > > > therefore, does not react. Whenever people see a "Jnani" > reacting - > > > it means > > > > he is not a Jnani. These are not two paths either. It is the > same > > > cognition > > > > or recognition. To consider them separate from each other is a > > > mistake. > > > > > > > > Spirituality is for the bravest of the brave and not meant for > > > those running > > > > away from life. The process of cognition of Vedic principles > is - > > > Study - > > > > Questioning - Intellectual understanding (to those lacking the > > > same must > > > > perform obligatory duties - karma Yoga) - developing Faith (not > > > blind > > > > belief) - Taking risk from stepping out of self imposed > > > limitations - > > > > getting signals from Nature - gentle reminders of divinity > around - > > > ...... > > > > > > > > I will end now or else another lesson from Bhagavad Gita and > the > > > Upanishads > > > > might have to start. I leave both of you to believe what you > would > > > like to. > > > > It is neither my duty nor my desire to change your views but a > > > hope that you > > > > will realize this huge principle. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/17/06, B Lakshmi Ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Bharat ji, > > > > > > > > > > My understanding, based on my limited reading, is that Jnana > & > > > > > Bhakti are like markata kishora nyaaya and maarjaala kishora > > > nyaya > > > > > respectively. in markata kishora nyaya, the responsibility of > > > safely > > > > > clinging to mother during a transit is on the baby monkey...a > > > jnani > > > > > is like that. whereas in the case of bhakti, the devotee is > like > > > the > > > > > kitten, he is safely held by the mother. There's a risk of > the > > > > > jnani, losing hold on Mother (God) and falling, like the baby > > > monkey > > > > > sometimes does because of its own confusions and > inadequacies, > > > but > > > > > in the case of the kitten, the Mother itself takes care. > > > Likewise, > > > > > Bhagavan Himself takes care of the bhakta. > > > > > > > > > > I always felt that both are necessary for reaching God and i > take > > > > > the support of Maha Bharata in this. Bhishma pitamaha was a > great > > > > > jnani, yet, in the final moments of his life he recited > Vishnu > > > > > Sahasranaamam, which marked the high point of devotion. > Arjuna > > > was a > > > > > great sakha and bhakta of Krishna, yet toards the end the > Lord > > > makes > > > > > sure that he acquires sufficient jnana also by personally > > > teaching > > > > > him in the form of Bhagavad gita. > > > > > > > > > > I feel, that one must have jnana, which is bhakti in action, > 2nd > > > > > house being the 10th house from 5th house...in the list of > gyana > > > > > yogas given by Dr. Raman 2nd house/lord has great > importance... > > > > > while bhakti must remain at the heart of jnana (5th house > being > > > 4th > > > > > from 2nd). > > > > > > > > > > Please correct my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > Astrology" > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > You can take any view, the definition of Bhakti and Jnana > > > cannot > > > > > change. If > > > > > > you take Dwaita - it is Jnana that I and lord are separate > and > > > > > therefore > > > > > > Bhakti is limited to Lord as separate from oneself. If you > > > take V- > > > > > Adwaita, > > > > > > then, it is Jnana that I am a part of the Lord and > therefore > > > > > Bhakti is of > > > > > > the same nature. Similarly of Adwaita. Where is the > difference > > > > > between the > > > > > > two? > > > > > > It is unnecessary to bring Dwaita, V-Adwaita and Adwaita > > > > > differences here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhakti does not mean no thinking. No love can come without > > > > > understanding. No > > > > > > understanding can be complete without Bhakti. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/17/06, smadavi <smadavi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaram Bharatji, > > > > > > > Thanks for your enlightening views.My concept of > > > understanding is > > > > > > > based on(Visishta) Dwaitha principles .As far as my > personal > > > > > view is > > > > > > > concerned the ultimate result(undersanding) is Adwaithic > > > state > > > > > > > that "the other is not separate from me" comes through > the > > > path > > > > > of > > > > > > > dwaitha only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Internally (as many of us perhaps) I thought and thought > > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > > ultimate truth through Dwaitic concepts as well as > Adwaitic > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > and found that both are true in part and something more > has > > > to > > > > > come > > > > > > > to view them in combination to know the ultimate > truth.This > > > is > > > > > > > nothing but Jnana marga.Whereas in Bhakti state this > > > question is > > > > > > > gradually(or instantaneoulsly) receding and becoming > > > > > thoughtless/and > > > > > > > immaterial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu > > > Astrology" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you have Bhakti without understanding of the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no two, Jnana and Bhakti are the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Atmanastu Kaamaya Sarvam Priyam Bhavati" - > Brihadaryanka > > > > > > > Upanishad. This > > > > > > > > verse has the definitions of love and Bhakti in it and > > > also of > > > > > > > Jnana. I am > > > > > > > > just giving hints here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhakti is loosely translated as "Divine Love". What is > > > Love? - > > > > > An > > > > > > > > understanding that the other is not separate from me, > > > which is > > > > > > > nothing but > > > > > > > > Jnana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is an error to treat them separately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/17/06, smadavi <smadavi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskaram Bharatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice question,please let me share my little > > > understanding of > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > divine concepts in few lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhakti doesn't need mode of language for > communication > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Divine,It's simply LOVE(LOOSING ONES VERY > EXISTENCE) by > > > > > > > > > concentrating on God.It also doesn't need any > > > interlocutor > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > understanding God.It's mostly instantaneous in > formation > > > and > > > > > > > > > continues without any means of communication or > > > > > interlocutors in > > > > > > > > > between soul and the Divine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whereas gyan is mostly percieved through senses in > first > > > > > stage > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > progresses with/without crutches of means of > > > communication > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > interlocutors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Goal and ultimate destination of both is the > same > > > viz > > > > > > > > > realisation of Divinity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind request for Gurujis to evaluate of my > understanding > > > and > > > > > > > correct > > > > > > > > > the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic- > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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