astrology question

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Re: astrology question

 

Dear Sreenadh and Sharma Ji

 

"how the earth is able to rotate with out any driving power.

how planets are moving what could be the source of power..."

 

Maybe this can shed some light: - the "soul of heaven" is non local

intensive circular motion.

Heaven is the largest corporeal body, containing all other corporeal

bodies. It is like a bubble floating in the causal ocean, and beyond the

physical heaven's furthest surface, there are spiritual heavens, and

spiritual "bodies" but there are no space or time limitations in the

spiritual heavens, such limitations exist only in the physical, or

corporeal heaven. Beyond the edge of the corporeal part of the universe,

beyond the furthest star, there is no more limitation of time or space.

If someone wanted to stick his physical hand out beyond the edge of this

physical world, there would be no place or time "out there" to contain

that hand. Therefore, our corporeal heaven has no place where it can

move outside itself.

All motion in the corporeal world originates in the motion of heaven

moving intensively within itself in a circle, without any center or

periphery. This universally broad and infinitesimally fine non local,

non temporal and yet ubiquitous swirling motion of heaven, which is the

sum total of the entire body of the physical universe, this spinning

motion (referred to by Vedic rishis as kundalini) is the prime physical

source of all motion in elemented things that consist of gross and/or

subtle physical matter.

 

This concept of universal motive force as the soul of heaven was

described by Raymond Lull (1235-1316) in the Principles of Astronomy

(aka the Book of the Seven Planets)

http://lullianarts.net/planets/astcon.htm

 

3 Motion is the soul of heaven

"The soul of heaven must be that essence which is most general in view

of its natural purpose just as the vegetative soul of a tree is more

intent than any other part of the tree on accomplishing the tree's

purpose in producing fruit; and likewise with the sentient soul in

animals whose greatest utility resides in their senses. And because

heaven has greater utility in things below through its movement than

through any of its other essential parts, its motive essence must be its

soul that moves it, informs it, and directs it to accomplish the ends

for which it exists. And heaven moves on its own with its form and

matter in the same way that a tree vegetates with its vegetative soul,

or an animal moves its powers of sense into action with its sensitive

soul.

Heaven naturally moves from east to west with its motive form and moves

the Sun and the other planets from west to east: but it cannot do this

unless its soul be a motive power. But since it is a motive form, its

motive form actively attracts the movement of the planets in the same

way as the vegetative power of a tree attracts water and earth inasmuch

as it converts them into its own species.

Heaven is the subject of its own motion without any now, any moment or

any time, because in itself it has neither hours, nor days, nor years as

its entire movement proceeds without any time sequence in the same way

that its circle has no beginning, middle or end, and therefore it can

cause time and sequential motion to proceed in things below. But heaven

could not do this if movement were not its soul, that is a motive form

that causes sequential movement as it extends time through its

successive parts, namely moments, hours, days and years.

In heaven there is no place to which heaven can move or to which its

parts can move because if heaven had any such place, then there would be

an instant in heaven that would break the natural continuity of its

circle just like if an intensely white circle were marked with a black

spot, this black spot would break the continuity of intense whiteness in

the circle. And since heaven has no locus within itself toward which it

can move, and as it moves itself in an intensive and continuous circular

motion, then there must be a motive form that impels it to move in this

way and whose final purpose is to move with its own intensive motion.

Because as fire has an appetite to move upward and earth has an appetite

to move downward, namely toward its center, likewise, heaven has an

appetite for its own circular movement and its repose consists in moving

itself without any location or center. This is why its soul must be a

motive form that moves itself within itself in circular motion without

any succession, or instant, or movement from one place to another within

its own subject, namely the body of heaven that moves on its own in a

circle.

A body moving in a straight line can never come to rest through its own

motion, as for instance if in Paris there were a hole in the ground all

the way to the earth's surface at the antipode, and if a stone were

thrown into this hole, the stone would descend to the middle of the

earth's center and no longer move from this place, because if it did,

its heaviness would have to be converted to lightness. But heaven has no

repose elsewhere than in its circular motion, which shows that its

center is its very own circular motion because its soul is in active

motion within itself as it formally moves itself in a circle.

We have proved that heaven has a circular motive soul that animates it.

And by proving that heaven has circular motion we intended to let

astronomers know that heaven is animated by a motive soul, so that in

making judgments they be aware of the causes caused in things below by

heaven's motive soul when it gives them their instinct and appetite to

move in a circular way as in generation and decay and in the extended

sequence of instants, hours, days and years." (end of quote)

 

Vedic sages have described the same motive soul as kundalini.

 

>From KUNDALINI YOGA By SRI SWAMI SIVANANDA

"Kundalini is the cosmic power in individual bodies. It is not a

material force like electricity, magnetism, centripetal or centrifugal

force. It is a spiritual potential Sakti or cosmic power. In reality it

has no form. The Sthula Buddhi and mind have to follow a particular form

in the beginning stage. From this gross form, one can easily, understand

the subtle formless Kundalini. Prana, Ahamkara, Buddhi, Indriyas, mind,

five gross elements, nerves are all the products of Kundalini."

 

Kundalini Yoga

The theory that underlies the cosmic power has been analysed to its

thinnest filaments, and practical methods have been suggested to awaken

this great pristine force in individuals. It explains the theory and

illustrates the practice of Kundalini Yoga.

http://www.dlshq.org/download/download.htm

(end of quote)

 

The same kundalini energy is involved in producing human speech, passing

from para, through pasyanti and madhyama to vaikhari. When reading a

chart, one comes into contact with the universal kundalini through its

specific zodiacal and planetary manifestations. In the pasyanti stage,

concepts first arise in a visual or geometric form, (as when looking at

the figure of the chart, or imagining it with the mind's eye). In the

madhyama stage, the intuitive vocal concept is formed in the heart and

then voiced in specific language at the vaikhari stage (visuddha

chakra).

 

Can we conclude that the same universal motive power that moves the

stars and planets also influences the astrologer in declaring his

judgment of the rasi kundali?

 

Om Tat Sat

Yanis

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Dear Sharma,

 

>my question is how the earth is able to rotate with out any driving

>power.

 

It is due to electromagnetic field. In terms of Veda, this is the energy

of Ananta Sesa, the serpant hooded Deity who sustains the entire universe

on his hoods.

 

Ys,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

 

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