Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Om Shri Gurave Namah: Respected learned astrologers, I am very sorry to write that there are learned astrologers on the list of members, who are known in their respected feild. I put a query before the respected members to guide me to know whether the chart before us for analysis is of a dead or alive native? When we are interested in to rectify the chart, to know whether the chart is of a male or female native then why we are not interested in knowing whether the chart is of a dead or alive native? I put the query on 16th Feb. Only shri Tarun Chopra was kind enough to reply the query. But non-else spare some time from his busy schedule to ponder upon the issue. I again request the august members to think on the issue.If there is no answer to the query, I feel that any one can be able to befool us and make fun of astrolgy.I know that in Horory every astrologer first of all judge that whether the querist is genuine or not. Why not in astrology we can know that whether the chart belongs to an alive person or a dead person? with warm regards from a student of astrology. Dr.S.C.Kursija Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hare Krishna This is why we should always cast a prashna as we begin to read a chart to determine the motivations for the querist and such. Sanjay spoke on Prashna last year at the West coast conference-(cds are expectde to be ready soon) and as far as I know he will be speaking on Prashna again this year. Not only can a prashna tell us whether the querist has bad motivations it can clue us in to the issue at hand. Let me tell you .The supreme Lord can change the course of anyones life.Even when this life ends (it just appears to end) but actually it continues in the next, just the body changes, So an astrologer needs to determine if it is likely the pranas are exhausted for this current body or not, Determining longevity is one of the hardest things. then on top of it you want to increase the variables. I can share an example. Do you think this girl is alive? She disappeared.sadly it doesnt look likely.Some charts are harder than others, some are pretty clear. WIth regards, Lakshmi Garecht, Michaela Joy Natal Chart January 24, 1979 Time: 8:13:00 pm Time Zone: 8:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 122 W 05' 00", 37 N 40' 00" Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Kaala-yukta - Pushya Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.74% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Jyeshtha (Me) (16.94% left) Yoga: Dhruva (Ke) Karana: Kaulava (Ma) Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Ta) Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ge) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Sun) Sunrise: 7:22:57 am Sunset: 5:18:20 pm Janma Ghatis: 32.0856 Ayanamsa: 23-33-49.69 Sidereal Time: 4:20:11 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 16 Le 06' 39.12" PPha 1 Le Le Sun - MK 11 Cp 01' 47.67" Srav 1 Cp Ar Moon - AK 27 Sc 44' 26.85" Jye 4 Sc Pi Mars - PK 9 Cp 56' 12.55" USha 4 Cp Pi Mercury - DK 1 Cp 02' 22.66" USha 2 Cp Cp Jupiter ® - PiK 10 Cn 24' 04.16" Push 3 Cn Li Venus - AmK 24 Sc 18' 46.44" Jye 3 Sc Aq Saturn ® - BK 19 Le 30' 07.42" PPha 2 Le Vi Rahu - GK 26 Le 22' 55.08" PPha 4 Le Sc Ketu 26 Aq 22' 55.08" PBha 2 Aq Ta Maandi 0 Sg 40' 56.03" Mool 1 Sg Ar Gulika 19 Sc 19' 00.42" Jye 1 Sc Sg Uranus 27 Li 01' 22.43" Visa 3 Li Ge Neptune 26 Sc 03' 49.27" Jye 3 Sc Aq Pluto ® 25 Vi 39' 27.20" Chit 1 Vi Le Bhava Lagna 22 Cn 59' 57.93" Asre 2 Cn Cp Hora Lagna 5 Aq 30' 46.43" Dhan 4 Aq Sc Ghati Lagna 13 Vi 03' 11.92" Hast 1 Vi Ar Vighati Lagna 20 Vi 45' 19.38" Hast 4 Vi Cn Varnada Lagna 16 Cn 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Cn Pi Sree Lagna 15 Ge 06' 44.00" Ardr 3 Ge Aq Pranapada Lagna 21 Vi 17' 57.61" Hast 4 Vi Cn Indu Lagna 27 Le 44' 26.85" UPha 1 Le Sg Dhooma 24 Ta 21' 47.67" Mrig 1 Ta Le Vyatipata 5 Aq 38' 12.33" Dhan 4 Aq Sc Parivesha 5 Le 38' 12.33" Makh 2 Le Ta Indra Chapa 24 Sc 21' 47.67" Jye 3 Sc Aq Upaketu 11 Sg 01' 47.67" Mool 4 Sg Cn Kaala 21 Cn 30' 55.77" Asre 2 Cn Cp Mrityu 4 Vi 17' 44.39" UPha 3 Vi Aq Artha Prahara 25 Vi 50' 50.01" Chit 1 Vi Le Yama Ghantaka 17 Li 09' 26.05" Swat 4 Li Pi Prana Sphuta 9 Li 52' 16.01" Swat 1 Li Sg Deha Sphuta 1 Pi 14' 35.20" PBha 4 Pi Cn Mrityu Sphuta 26 Ge 14' 50.64" Puna 2 Ge Ta Sookshma TriSphuta 7 Sg 21' 41.85" Mool 3 Sg Ge TriSphuta 3 Sg 10' 06.39" Mool 1 Sg Ar ChatusSphuta 14 Vi 11' 54.05" Hast 2 Vi Ta PanchaSphuta 10 Aq 34' 49.13" Sata 2 Aq Cp V2 16 Le 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Le Aq V3 16 Sc 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Sc Cn V4 16 Sg 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Sg Li V5 16 Pi 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Pi Sc V6 16 Ar 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Ar Aq V7 16 Cn 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Cn Pi V8 16 Le 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Le Aq V9 16 Sc 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Sc Sc V10 16 Sg 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Sg Li V11 16 Pi 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Pi Cn V12 16 Ar 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 Ar Aq Kunda 14 Sc 58' 48.43" Anu 4 Sc Sc Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ GL / \ JuR / | | \ / \ / | | \ / SaR \ / | | \ / \ / | | x As x AL | | / \ / \ | | / \ Ra / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ve \ 5 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Mo x | | \ / \ / | | \ Gk / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / | |Md x Ke x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Su \ / \ | | / Ma Me \ / \ | +--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ SaR / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |JuR x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / HL \ 5 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Ra x Ke | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / Md | |Gk AL x Ve x GL Su | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / Mo \ | | / \ / Ma \ | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Merc Merc 1964-12-13 Ket 1967-05-09 Ven 1968-05-05 Sun 1971-03-06 Moon 1972-01-12 Mars 1973-06-12 Rah 1974-06-09 Jup 1976-12-27 Sat 1979-04-02 Ket Ket 1981-12-13 Ven 1982-05-09 Sun 1983-07-11 Moon 1983-11-17 Mars 1984-06-15 Rah 1984-11-13 Jup 1985-12-01 Sat 1986-11-08 Merc 1987-12-16 Ven Ven 1988-12-13 Sun 1992-04-11 Moon 1993-04-11 Mars 1994-12-13 Rah 1996-02-10 Jup 1999-02-10 Sat 2001-10-14 Merc 2004-12-13 Ket 2007-10-15 Sun Sun 2008-12-13 Moon 2009-03-30 Mars 2009-10-02 Rah 2010-02-04 Jup 2010-12-31 Sat 2011-10-21 Merc 2012-10-02 Ket 2013-08-08 Ven 2013-12-13 Moon Moon 2014-12-13 Mars 2015-10-15 Rah 2016-05-12 Jup 2017-11-13 Sat 2019-03-12 Merc 2020-10-14 Ket 2022-03-12 Ven 2022-10-15 Sun 2024-06-12 Mars Mars 2024-12-13 Rah 2025-05-09 Jup 2026-05-28 Sat 2027-05-03 Merc 2028-06-12 Ket 2029-06-09 Ven 2029-11-08 Sun 2031-01-06 Moon 2031-05-12 Rah Rah 2031-12-14 Jup 2034-08-27 Sat 2037-01-17 Merc 2039-11-26 Ket 2042-06-12 Ven 2043-07-02 Sun 2046-07-01 Moon 2047-05-25 Mars 2048-11-25 Jup Jup 2049-12-13 Sat 2052-01-30 Merc 2054-08-14 Ket 2056-11-19 Ven 2057-10-27 Sun 2060-06-25 Moon 2061-04-11 Mars 2062-08-14 Rah 2063-07-21 Sat Sat 2065-12-13 Merc 2068-12-16 Ket 2071-08-27 Ven 2072-10-05 Sun 2075-12-05 Moon 2076-11-17 Mars 2078-06-16 Rah 2079-07-27 Jup 2082-05-31 Most astrologers can say,,, the chances dont look good. But then who is 100% accurate,, it is Kali Yuga. In vedic astrology, "sckursija" <sckursija wrote: > > Om Shri Gurave Namah: > Respected learned astrologers, > I am very sorry to write that there are learned astrologers on the > list of members, who are known in their respected feild. I put a query > before the respected members to guide me to know whether the chart > before us for analysis is of a dead or alive native? When we are > interested in to rectify the chart, to know whether the chart is of a > male or female native then why we are not interested in knowing > whether the chart is of a dead or alive native? > I put the query on 16th Feb. Only shri Tarun Chopra was kind enough to > reply the query. But non-else spare some time from his busy schedule > to ponder upon the issue. I again request the august members to think > on the issue.If there is no answer to the query, I feel that any one > can be able to befool us and make fun of astrolgy.I know that in > Horory every astrologer first of all judge that whether the querist is > genuine or not. Why not in astrology we can know that whether the > chart belongs to an alive person or a dead person? > with warm regards from a student of astrology. > Dr.S.C.Kursija > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hello, The Girl is well and alive. She is in safe place but in bad company. She is having bad effects of Ghor Tamas Yoga present in lagna.And due to this yoga, I won't be surprised to learn that she is addicted to drugs/alcohol. When will you be able to know about her ? Some time in middle of this year, you would hear of her whereabouts. Tatvam-Asi I checked up with prasna chart which is my practice and about which I stressed over three years back in VA board that I always check the "INTENT" of the prasnakarta in doubtful cases. Intent is clear. Guru in lagna shows the subject is alive. --- lakshmikary <lakshmikary wrote: > Hare Krishna > This is why we should always cast a prashna as we > begin to read a > chart to determine the motivations for the querist > and such. > Sanjay spoke on Prashna last year at the West coast > conference-(cds > are expectde to be ready soon) and as far as I know > he will be > speaking on Prashna again this year. > Not only can a prashna tell us whether the querist > has bad > motivations it can clue us in to the issue at hand. > > Let me tell you .The supreme Lord can change the > course of anyones > life.Even when this life ends (it just appears to > end) but actually > it continues in the next, just the body changes, > So an astrologer needs to determine if it is likely > the pranas are > exhausted for this current body or not, > Determining longevity is one of the hardest things. > then on top of > it you want to increase the variables. > I can share an example. > Do you think this girl is alive? She > disappeared.sadly it doesnt > look likely.Some charts are harder than others, some > are pretty > clear. > WIth regards, > Lakshmi > > Garecht, Michaela Joy > > Natal Chart > > January 24, 1979 > Time: 8:13:00 pm > Time Zone: 8:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 122 W 05' 00", 37 N 40' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Kaala-yukta - Pushya > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (60.74% left) > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > Nakshatra: Jyeshtha (Me) (16.94% left) > Yoga: Dhruva (Ke) > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Ta) > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ge) > Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Sun) > > Sunrise: 7:22:57 am > Sunset: 5:18:20 pm > Janma Ghatis: 32.0856 > > Ayanamsa: 23-33-49.69 > Sidereal Time: 4:20:11 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 16 Le 06' 39.12" PPha 1 > Le Le > Sun - MK 11 Cp 01' 47.67" Srav 1 > Cp Ar > Moon - AK 27 Sc 44' 26.85" Jye 4 > Sc Pi > Mars - PK 9 Cp 56' 12.55" USha 4 > Cp Pi > Mercury - DK 1 Cp 02' 22.66" USha 2 > Cp Cp > Jupiter ® - PiK 10 Cn 24' 04.16" Push 3 > Cn Li > Venus - AmK 24 Sc 18' 46.44" Jye 3 > Sc Aq > Saturn ® - BK 19 Le 30' 07.42" PPha 2 > Le Vi > Rahu - GK 26 Le 22' 55.08" PPha 4 > Le Sc > Ketu 26 Aq 22' 55.08" PBha 2 > Aq Ta > Maandi 0 Sg 40' 56.03" Mool 1 > Sg Ar > Gulika 19 Sc 19' 00.42" Jye 1 > Sc Sg > Uranus 27 Li 01' 22.43" Visa 3 > Li Ge > Neptune 26 Sc 03' 49.27" Jye 3 > Sc Aq > Pluto ® 25 Vi 39' 27.20" Chit 1 > Vi Le > Bhava Lagna 22 Cn 59' 57.93" Asre 2 > Cn Cp > Hora Lagna 5 Aq 30' 46.43" Dhan 4 > Aq Sc > Ghati Lagna 13 Vi 03' 11.92" Hast 1 > Vi Ar > Vighati Lagna 20 Vi 45' 19.38" Hast 4 > Vi Cn > Varnada Lagna 16 Cn 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Cn Pi > Sree Lagna 15 Ge 06' 44.00" Ardr 3 > Ge Aq > Pranapada Lagna 21 Vi 17' 57.61" Hast 4 > Vi Cn > Indu Lagna 27 Le 44' 26.85" UPha 1 > Le Sg > Dhooma 24 Ta 21' 47.67" Mrig 1 > Ta Le > Vyatipata 5 Aq 38' 12.33" Dhan 4 > Aq Sc > Parivesha 5 Le 38' 12.33" Makh 2 > Le Ta > Indra Chapa 24 Sc 21' 47.67" Jye 3 > Sc Aq > Upaketu 11 Sg 01' 47.67" Mool 4 > Sg Cn > Kaala 21 Cn 30' 55.77" Asre 2 > Cn Cp > Mrityu 4 Vi 17' 44.39" UPha 3 > Vi Aq > Artha Prahara 25 Vi 50' 50.01" Chit 1 > Vi Le > Yama Ghantaka 17 Li 09' 26.05" Swat 4 > Li Pi > Prana Sphuta 9 Li 52' 16.01" Swat 1 > Li Sg > Deha Sphuta 1 Pi 14' 35.20" PBha 4 > Pi Cn > Mrityu Sphuta 26 Ge 14' 50.64" Puna 2 > Ge Ta > Sookshma TriSphuta 7 Sg 21' 41.85" Mool 3 > Sg Ge > TriSphuta 3 Sg 10' 06.39" Mool 1 > Sg Ar > ChatusSphuta 14 Vi 11' 54.05" Hast 2 > Vi Ta > PanchaSphuta 10 Aq 34' 49.13" Sata 2 > Aq Cp > V2 16 Le 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Le Aq > V3 16 Sc 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Sc Cn > V4 16 Sg 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Sg Li > V5 16 Pi 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Pi Sc > V6 16 Ar 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Ar Aq > V7 16 Cn 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Cn Pi > V8 16 Le 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Le Aq > V9 16 Sc 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Sc Sc > V10 16 Sg 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Sg Li > V11 16 Pi 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Pi Cn > V12 16 Ar 06' 39.12" Aswi 1 > Ar Aq > Kunda 14 Sc 58' 48.43" Anu 4 > Sc Sc > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ GL / \ JuR / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / SaR \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x As x AL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ Ra / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Ve \ 5 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Mo x | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Gk / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / HL \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Md x Ke x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Su \ / \ | > | / Ma Me \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ SaR / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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