Jivatma/Paratma - Bharat ji

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Dear Bharat ji Namaskar

 

Thanks a lot for the detailed study of Gita.

Did you read my previous mail carefully.How is jivatma and paramatma

related though they are the same has been explained clearly within my

limitations.Bhagawan has used the word amsha though there is no

difference.Thus we have to know, though they are the same, how they

are the same.Let us take the meaning of WHOLE or HOLISTIC.

Sum of the individual parts is not equal to the WHOLE.Thus if we take

amshas as individual parts and group, it does not become HIM.But the

collective feeling is HIM.

They are the same but have a difference.Ocean is made out of numerous

drops.The collective feeling is Ocean.If there is no collective

feeling,grouping of these individual drops cannot become an Ocean.This

is jeevatma and Paramatma.

These are well established views of scholars and absolutely there is

no necessity for a debate.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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Namaskaar Sri Pradeep

 

Like I said you are free to hold your view. It is okay and we are all at

different levels of understanding. If my view does not seem to hold true for

you, you can reject it.

 

I cannot accept the view that you have shared. It is my understanding and

knowledge gained with my associations with learned Rshis. All I am saying

is, I have asked all such questions, that you have asked me, to my Gurus. I

have lived with them and understood their patience with me and learnt how

silly were my questions. I do not share my experiences with others as it is

immaterial. Who wants to know oneself nowadays? Anyways, forget that.

 

All your questions and contentions, I view with patience. There is no doubt

that you are seeker and I know you shall break free of any false idea or

image, whether it is astrology or not.

 

As you have an urge to know, you shall know. The Lord shall define the means

for a sincere attempt. I wish you the best in understanding of the same.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

On 2/24/06, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

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> Dear Bharat ji Namaskar

>

> Thanks a lot for the detailed study of Gita.

> Did you read my previous mail carefully.How is jivatma and paramatma

> related though they are the same has been explained clearly within my

> limitations.Bhagawan has used the word amsha though there is no

> difference.Thus we have to know, though they are the same, how they

> are the same.Let us take the meaning of WHOLE or HOLISTIC.

> Sum of the individual parts is not equal to the WHOLE.Thus if we take

> amshas as individual parts and group, it does not become HIM.But the

> collective feeling is HIM.

> They are the same but have a difference.Ocean is made out of numerous

> drops.The collective feeling is Ocean.If there is no collective

> feeling,grouping of these individual drops cannot become an Ocean.This

> is jeevatma and Paramatma.

> These are well established views of scholars and absolutely there is

> no necessity for a debate.

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> Thanks

> Pradeep

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