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Namaste,

 

One may also try fine red Spinel or bright red garnets( the ones from

mozambique or brazil, not orrisa or hydrabad mines from India)..

 

just my thought;

 

Gaurav Jain

 

In a message dated 2/15/2006 10:40:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

panditarjun2004 writes:

 

dear brother richard

 

the glory of ruby and sun was evident in vedas, puranas, upanishads,

shastras and in itihasas (mahabharat). in the indian context, i

would not be exaggerating if i say that original rubies have become

extinct, except with few kings (who inherited) or in museums. few

burmese rubies are found better than the ordinary rubies available

elsewhere.

 

it is written in several holy scriptures that a ruby is equated to a

kingly status and the wearer of a ruby would become a king or have

kingly comforts. unfortunately i was not able to get similar

beneficial results of the other stones and their linking with

planets in the holy scriptures.

 

with this backdrop i found twelve mukh rudraksha was recommended by

lord shiva in sivapuran that it represnts lord sun and it mentions

that (since sun is the lord of the solar system) the wearer of this

12mukh rudraksha gets the sun's shining in all the twelve signs or

houses. in all customers to whom i suggested this 12mukh rudraksha,

they got miraculous beneficial results. this 12mukh rudraksha

costing just one hundred US dollars is also the best substitute of

genuine ruby or genuine round ek mukh nepalese rudraksha which is

also extinct, even though indonesian round ek mukh rudraksh with

little oval shape instead of round are available easily.

 

needless to say in astrology it is written that if sun and moon both

are week in a chart, none of the rajayogas or beneficial results

promised by other planets in the chart will not happen.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

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dear brother richard

 

the glory of ruby and sun was evident in vedas, puranas, upanishads,

shastras and in itihasas (mahabharat). in the indian context, i

would not be exaggerating if i say that original rubies have become

extinct, except with few kings (who inherited) or in museums. few

burmese rubies are found better than the ordinary rubies available

elsewhere.

 

it is written in several holy scriptures that a ruby is equated to a

kingly status and the wearer of a ruby would become a king or have

kingly comforts. unfortunately i was not able to get similar

beneficial results of the other stones and their linking with

planets in the holy scriptures.

 

with this backdrop i found twelve mukh rudraksha was recommended by

lord shiva in sivapuran that it represnts lord sun and it mentions

that (since sun is the lord of the solar system) the wearer of this

12mukh rudraksha gets the sun's shining in all the twelve signs or

houses. in all customers to whom i suggested this 12mukh rudraksha,

they got miraculous beneficial results. this 12mukh rudraksha

costing just one hundred US dollars is also the best substitute of

genuine ruby or genuine round ek mukh nepalese rudraksha which is

also extinct, even though indonesian round ek mukh rudraksh with

little oval shape instead of round are available easily.

 

needless to say in astrology it is written that if sun and moon both

are week in a chart, none of the rajayogas or beneficial results

promised by other planets in the chart will not happen.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

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Dear Arjun,

Namaste

 

the glory of ruby and sun was evident in vedas, puranas, upanishads,

shastras and in itihasas (mahabharat). in the indian context, i

would not be exaggerating if i say that original rubies have become

extinct, except with few kings (who inherited) or in museums. few

burmese rubies are found better than the ordinary rubies available

elsewhere.

 

Wrong statement. The items in the museum or inherited by kings are

identified as red spinel.

 

Love,

Swee

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dear swee

namaste

 

> Wrong statement. The items in the museum or inherited by kings are

> identified as red spinel.

 

since these are inherited by the kings, i never suspected them to be

red spinels. your research must be true and i agree with your

observation which makes genuine rubies extinct indeed. so, even the

high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels only.

 

thanks for your clarification and look forward to your continued

knowledge sharing.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

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Sri Arjun ji,

It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

countries.

 

I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

 

I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

results and so do Yellow sapphires.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

--- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

 

> dear swee

> namaste

>

> > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> inherited by kings are

> > identified as red spinel.

>

> since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> suspected them to be

> red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> with your

> observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> indeed. so, even the

> high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> only.

>

> thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> your continued

> knowledge sharing.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> arjun

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Namaste Arjun ji and others,

 

I think there is an error in communication or understanding when we say that

all rubies are really red spinels. They could have been some by maharajas

but not to generalize it. Further, lets wait for Swee ji to comment on this as

I think we are construding our understanding of her statements which ( I am

sure!) can not mean to say that all rubies are red spinels !!!

 

In todays world, while its true that most of the Ruby commercially available

are at the least heated to enhance the color, one can still acquire Natural

fine Burmese gems mined in Mong Hsu. Longeedo mind from Africa is also not

that bad of a specimen.

 

Namaste

Gaurav Jain

In a message dated 2/16/2006 2:10:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

panditarjun2004 writes:

 

dear tatvam ji

 

your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

available currently. but further fine researches done by people

like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

and not genuine rubies.

 

but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

astrological remedy is served.

 

just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

 

vedic astrology, Noname Noname

<nameisego wrote:

>

>

> Sri Arjun ji,

> It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> countries.

>

> I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

>

> I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> results and so do Yellow sapphires.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

> --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> > dear swee

> > namaste

> >

> > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > inherited by kings are

> > > identified as red spinel.

> >

> > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > suspected them to be

> > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > with your

> > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > indeed. so, even the

> > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > only.

> >

> > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > your continued

> > knowledge sharing.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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dear tatvam ji

 

your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

available currently. but further fine researches done by people

like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

and not genuine rubies.

 

but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

astrological remedy is served.

 

just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

 

 

vedic astrology, Noname Noname

<nameisego wrote:

>

>

> Sri Arjun ji,

> It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> countries.

>

> I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

>

> I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> results and so do Yellow sapphires.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

> --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> > dear swee

> > namaste

> >

> > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > inherited by kings are

> > > identified as red spinel.

> >

> > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > suspected them to be

> > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > with your

> > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > indeed. so, even the

> > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > only.

> >

> > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > your continued

> > knowledge sharing.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Namaskaar Sri Arjuna

 

Ruby is Red Corundum. It is available. I have seen many samples with my

sister in law who is a qualified Gemmologist from GII. I have myself checked

it under Refractrometer and have measured its specific gravity.

 

I suggest you get your Gems tested from Jhandewalan lab (if you are in

Delhi), they will give a certificate of the Gem being a Ruby or a Spinel.

Spinels are singly refractive whereas Rubies are doubly refractive. One can

use a Dicroscope for checking the same too, if one knows how to use it. It

is simple if you want to learn.

 

Spinel is less hard than a Ruby and usually have a pinkish tinge. Single

refractiveness gives it a similar quality to that of a Diamond as Diamonds

are singly refractive too.

 

Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a Diamond, that

can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more attractive than

a Ruby.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear tatvam ji

>

> your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

> rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

> available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

> maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

> research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

> and not genuine rubies.

>

> but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> astrological remedy is served.

>

> just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

> considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

>

> with best wishes and regards

> arjun

>

>

> vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> <nameisego wrote:

> >

> >

> > Sri Arjun ji,

> > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > countries.

> >

> > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> >

> > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> >

> > > dear swee

> > > namaste

> > >

> > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > inherited by kings are

> > > > identified as red spinel.

> > >

> > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > suspected them to be

> > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > with your

> > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > indeed. so, even the

> > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > only.

> > >

> > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > your continued

> > > knowledge sharing.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and regards

> > > arjun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

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namaste bharat ji

 

thanks for your information as i am still studying on stones and

learning a lot from stone experts in this forum.

 

with best wishes and regards

arjun

vedic astrology, Bharat Hindu Astrology

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaskaar Sri Arjuna

>

> Ruby is Red Corundum. It is available. I have seen many samples

with my

> sister in law who is a qualified Gemmologist from GII. I have

myself checked

> it under Refractrometer and have measured its specific gravity.

>

> I suggest you get your Gems tested from Jhandewalan lab (if you

are in

> Delhi), they will give a certificate of the Gem being a Ruby or a

Spinel.

> Spinels are singly refractive whereas Rubies are doubly

refractive. One can

> use a Dicroscope for checking the same too, if one knows how to

use it. It

> is simple if you want to learn.

>

> Spinel is less hard than a Ruby and usually have a pinkish tinge.

Single

> refractiveness gives it a similar quality to that of a Diamond as

Diamonds

> are singly refractive too.

>

> Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

> magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

> brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a

Diamond, that

> can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more

attractive than

> a Ruby.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

>

>

> On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> >

> > dear tatvam ji

> >

> > your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> > knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with

burmese

> > rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in

rubies

> > available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> > like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> > best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> > yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by

the

> > maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in

her

> > research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> > rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red

spinels

> > and not genuine rubies.

> >

> > but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> > quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> > astrological remedy is served.

> >

> > just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems

but

> > considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> > reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sri Arjun ji,

> > > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > > countries.

> > >

> > > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> > >

> > > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > dear swee

> > > > namaste

> > > >

> > > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > > inherited by kings are

> > > > > identified as red spinel.

> > > >

> > > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > > suspected them to be

> > > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > > with your

> > > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > > indeed. so, even the

> > > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > > only.

> > > >

> > > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > > your continued

> > > > knowledge sharing.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > arjun

> > > >

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Dear Sriman,

 

Burmese rubies are rubies (red corundum), and Burmese spinels are spinels. The

world's

best rubies and spinels BOTH come from Burma (Myanmar). The real problem is the

synthetics of both. The best test to ID difference between natural spinel and

synthetic

spinel is by Refractive Index. RI for synthetic spinel is 1.728 with a slight

variance and the

natural is 1.718.

 

Testing the difference between natural (real) rubies and synthetic man-made

rubies is

more complicated. BUYER BEWARE!!!

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

> Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

> magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

> brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a Diamond, that

> can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more attractive than

> a Ruby.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

>

>

> On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> >

> > dear tatvam ji

> >

> > your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> > knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

> > rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

> > available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> > like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> > best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> > yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

> > maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

> > research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> > rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

> > and not genuine rubies.

> >

> > but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> > quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> > astrological remedy is served.

> >

> > just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

> > considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> > reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

> >

> > with best wishes and regards

> > arjun

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sri Arjun ji,

> > > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > > countries.

> > >

> > > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> > >

> > > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> > >

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > dear swee

> > > > namaste

> > > >

> > > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > > inherited by kings are

> > > > > identified as red spinel.

> > > >

> > > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > > suspected them to be

> > > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > > with your

> > > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > > indeed. so, even the

> > > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > > only.

> > > >

> > > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > > your continued

> > > > knowledge sharing.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > arjun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astrology chart</gads?

t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic

> > astrology</gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA>

Astrology

> > horoscope</gads?

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y+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew>

Astrology

> > software</gads?

t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+

horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw>

> > ------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic-

astrology>"

> > on the web.

> >

> > -

> > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-

?subject=Un>

> >

> > - Terms of

> > Service <>.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar Sri Richard

 

Thank you for correcting me. In olden days, there was no distinction made

between rubies and spinels. Many of the finest Spinels were considered

Rubies, till their differences were found out. I was trying to bring that to

notice but suggested as if all rubies are spinels.

 

If other wants, I have references to spot synthetic gemstones from real

ones. I can prepare a post if others would like it.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 2/18/06, Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Dear Sriman,

>

> Burmese rubies are rubies (red corundum), and Burmese spinels are spinels.

> The world's

> best rubies and spinels BOTH come from Burma (Myanmar). The real problem

> is the

> synthetics of both. The best test to ID difference between natural spinel

> and synthetic

> spinel is by Refractive Index. RI for synthetic spinel is 1.728 with a

> slight variance and the

> natural is 1.718.

>

> Testing the difference between natural (real) rubies and synthetic

> man-made rubies is

> more complicated. BUYER BEWARE!!!

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> > Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

> > magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

> > brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a Diamond,

> that

> > can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more attractive

> than

> > a Ruby.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> > >

> > > dear tatvam ji

> > >

> > > your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> > > knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

> > > rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

> > > available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> > > like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> > > best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> > > yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

> > > maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

> > > research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> > > rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

> > > and not genuine rubies.

> > >

> > > but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> > > quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> > > astrological remedy is served.

> > >

> > > just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

> > > considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> > > reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and regards

> > > arjun

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> > > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sri Arjun ji,

> > > > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > > > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > > > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > > > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > > > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > > > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > > > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > > > countries.

> > > >

> > > > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > > > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> > > >

> > > > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > > > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> > > >

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > dear swee

> > > > > namaste

> > > > >

> > > > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > > > inherited by kings are

> > > > > > identified as red spinel.

> > > > >

> > > > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > > > suspected them to be

> > > > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > > > with your

> > > > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > > > indeed. so, even the

> > > > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > > > only.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > > > your continued

> > > > > knowledge sharing.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > > arjun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Astrology chart</gads?

>

> t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

> oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic

> > > astrology</gads?

>

> t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

> oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA>

> Astrology

> > > horoscope</gads?

>

> t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrolog

> y+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew>

> Astrology

> > > software</gads?

>

> t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+

> horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw>

> > > ------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<

> vedic-

> astrology>"

> > > on the web.

> > >

> > > -

> > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-

> ?subject=Un>

> > >

> > > - Terms of

> > > Service <>.

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

 

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology

chart</gads?t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=\

Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Uokti\

PHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic

>

astrology</gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart\

&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=q\

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>

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hart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.s\

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>

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rt&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig\

=Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw>

> ------------------------------

>

>

>

> - Visit your group

"vedic astrology<vedic astrology>"

> on the web.

>

> -

>

vedic astrology<vedic astrology-@gro\

ups.com?subject=Un>

>

> - Terms of

> Service <>.

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharatji,

 

Namaste!!! Yes, the test to separate REAL from synthetic ruby is 3 easy steps:

 

1) Submit unknown red object to a bona fide gem lab

2) Pick up unknown red object along with certificate of ID

3) Read certificate of ID

 

You're right, even the Timur Ruby in the crown jewels of England is factually a

much softer

red spinel. Clean (flawless) Red spinel is a very good substitute for the very

costly clean

(flawless) ruby. At 10-20 times cheaper than comparable ruby

 

Best rgds,

Richard

 

vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

<hinduastrology

wrote:

>

> Namaskaar Sri Richard

>

> Thank you for correcting me. In olden days, there was no distinction made

> between rubies and spinels. Many of the finest Spinels were considered

> Rubies, till their differences were found out. I was trying to bring that to

> notice but suggested as if all rubies are spinels.

>

> If other wants, I have references to spot synthetic gemstones from real

> ones. I can prepare a post if others would like it.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 2/18/06, Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sriman,

> >

> > Burmese rubies are rubies (red corundum), and Burmese spinels are spinels.

> > The world's

> > best rubies and spinels BOTH come from Burma (Myanmar). The real problem

> > is the

> > synthetics of both. The best test to ID difference between natural spinel

> > and synthetic

> > spinel is by Refractive Index. RI for synthetic spinel is 1.728 with a

> > slight variance and the

> > natural is 1.718.

> >

> > Testing the difference between natural (real) rubies and synthetic

> > man-made rubies is

> > more complicated. BUYER BEWARE!!!

> >

> > Best rgds,

> > Richard

> >

> > > Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

> > > magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

> > > brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a Diamond,

> > that

> > > can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more attractive

> > than

> > > a Ruby.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear tatvam ji

> > > >

> > > > your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> > > > knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with burmese

> > > > rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in rubies

> > > > available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> > > > like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> > > > best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> > > > yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

> > > > maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in her

> > > > research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> > > > rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

> > > > and not genuine rubies.

> > > >

> > > > but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> > > > quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> > > > astrological remedy is served.

> > > >

> > > > just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems but

> > > > considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> > > > reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > arjun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> > > > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sri Arjun ji,

> > > > > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > > > > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > > > > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > > > > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > > > > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > > > > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > > > > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > > > > countries.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > > > > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > > > > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > dear swee

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > > > > inherited by kings are

> > > > > > > identified as red spinel.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > > > > suspected them to be

> > > > > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > > > > with your

> > > > > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > > > > indeed. so, even the

> > > > > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > > > > only.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > > > > your continued

> > > > > > knowledge sharing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > > > arjun

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Astrology chart</gads?

> >

> >

t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

> > oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg>

Vedic

> > > > astrology</gads?

> >

> >

t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

> > oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA>

> > Astrology

> > > > horoscope</gads?

> >

> >

t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrolog

> > y+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew>

> > Astrology

> > > > software</gads?

> >

> >

t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+

> > horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw>

> > > > ------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<

> > vedic-

> > astrology>"

> > > > on the web.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-

> > ?subject=Un>

> > > >

> > > > - Terms of

> > > > Service <>.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Astrology chart</gads?

t=ms&k=Astrology+chart&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=UoktiPHSoTwQkpGMXBNeEg> Vedic

> > astrology</gads?

t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+hor

oscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=qNtEn5POAbTpzmtNKIdnHA>

Astrology

> > horoscope</gads?

t=ms&k=Astrology+horoscope&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrolog

y+horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=8kShDb5zI-EsRMSq6tgiew>

Astrology

> > software</gads?

t=ms&k=Astrology+software&w1=Astrology+chart&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Astrology+

horoscope&w4=Astrology+software&c=4&s=91&.sig=Je51jg697mjdLNt6iLuaCw>

> > ------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> > - Visit your group "vedic astrology<vedic-

astrology>"

> > on the web.

> >

> > -

> > vedic astrology<vedic astrology-

?subject=Un>

> >

> > - Terms of

> > Service <>.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar Sri Richard

the test to separate REAL from synthetic ruby is 3 easy steps:

 

1) Submit unknown red object to a bona fide gem lab

2) Pick up unknown red object along with certificate of ID

3) Read certificate of ID

 

Well it doesn't get simpler than that! I am more into learning gemology and

thus look to understand the identification processes and also to study how

synthetic gemstones are made.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On 2/18/06, Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Dear Bharatji,

>

> Namaste!!! Yes, the test to separate REAL from synthetic ruby is 3 easy

> steps:

>

> 1) Submit unknown red object to a bona fide gem lab

> 2) Pick up unknown red object along with certificate of ID

> 3) Read certificate of ID

>

> You're right, even the Timur Ruby in the crown jewels of England is

> factually a much softer

> red spinel. Clean (flawless) Red spinel is a very good substitute for the

> very costly clean

> (flawless) ruby. At 10-20 times cheaper than comparable ruby

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

> <hinduastrology

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar Sri Richard

> >

> > Thank you for correcting me. In olden days, there was no distinction

> made

> > between rubies and spinels. Many of the finest Spinels were considered

> > Rubies, till their differences were found out. I was trying to bring

> that to

> > notice but suggested as if all rubies are spinels.

> >

> > If other wants, I have references to spot synthetic gemstones from real

> > ones. I can prepare a post if others would like it.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 2/18/06, Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sriman,

> > >

> > > Burmese rubies are rubies (red corundum), and Burmese spinels are

> spinels.

> > > The world's

> > > best rubies and spinels BOTH come from Burma (Myanmar). The real

> problem

> > > is the

> > > synthetics of both. The best test to ID difference between natural

> spinel

> > > and synthetic

> > > spinel is by Refractive Index. RI for synthetic spinel is 1.728 with a

> > > slight variance and the

> > > natural is 1.718.

> > >

> > > Testing the difference between natural (real) rubies and synthetic

> > > man-made rubies is

> > > more complicated. BUYER BEWARE!!!

> > >

> > > Best rgds,

> > > Richard

> > >

> > > > Now about Burmese Rubies - They are chrome Red Spinels. Spinels are

> > > > magnesium aluminium oxide. So when chrome is added, it give amazing

> > > > brilliance. Moreover, spinels can be given the same cut as a

> Diamond,

> > > that

> > > > can really bring the play of light, sometimes making it more

> attractive

> > > than

> > > > a Ruby.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Bharat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 2/17/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear tatvam ji

> > > > >

> > > > > your points are taken with concurrence. in fact same positive

> > > > > knowledge is gained in the experiences of my customers with

> burmese

> > > > > rubies. i have been eulogising burmese rubies as the best in

> rubies

> > > > > available currently. but further fine researches done by people

> > > > > like swee and others show that even these burmese rubies are the

> > > > > best quality red spinels and not genuine rubies. till swee said

> > > > > yesterday, i was under the belief that the rubies displayed by the

> > > > > maharajas who inherited them were genuine. swee may be right in

> her

> > > > > research as she cannot write in a public forum that even those

> > > > > rubies with kings and in museums are only best quality red spinels

> > > > > and not genuine rubies.

> > > > >

> > > > > but so long as your customers are getting benefited by these best

> > > > > quality semi precious stones, the purpose of wearing a gem as an

> > > > > astrological remedy is served.

> > > > >

> > > > > just for the information of all, i have little knowledge on gems

> but

> > > > > considerable knowledge on rudraksha in which i deal out of my

> > > > > reverence as a shiv bhakt and not as a business.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > > arjun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Noname Noname

> > > > > <nameisego@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sri Arjun ji,

> > > > > > It may not be all that correct to say that High priced

> > > > > > Burmese Rubies are Spinels.

> > > > > > Having dealt in Gem stones for some years and having

> > > > > > bought and sold both Burmese Rubies/Neelams, Pokhrajs

> > > > > > and Neelams from Sri Lanka in sizable quantities, I

> > > > > > can say that Number one Numero Uno Rubies and Neelams

> > > > > > come from Mogok mines of Burma followed by other

> > > > > > countries.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will not call myself an expert but I do have good

> > > > > > experience with precious and semi precious stoones.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have found synthetic Pink rubies give wonderful

> > > > > > results and so do Yellow sapphires.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear swee

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wrong statement. The items in the museum or

> > > > > > > inherited by kings are

> > > > > > > > identified as red spinel.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > since these are inherited by the kings, i never

> > > > > > > suspected them to be

> > > > > > > red spinels. your research must be true and i agree

> > > > > > > with your

> > > > > > > observation which makes genuine rubies extinct

> > > > > > > indeed. so, even the

> > > > > > > high priced burmese rubies are also red spinels

> > > > > > > only.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks for your clarification and look forward to

> > > > > > > your continued

> > > > > > > knowledge sharing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes and regards

> > > > > > > arjun

> > > > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

> vedic astrology-

> > > > >

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