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Dear P. Kumar,

 

I appreciated your efforts to bring the facts to the surface.Sooner or later ,

your capabilities will be known to all.

 

Thanks ,

 

skotak

 

P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote:

Dear Swee,

You should agree at one point - one who believes in and recommends a gemstone

must be a good astrologer himself / herself. Now remember your visit to Mumbai

when you stayed at the house of shri J.K.Dasgupta in Vashi, Mumbai. You were

having gemstones for sale with you, almost all of which cost more than Rs.

50,000/-. I (Praveen Kumar then), along with others discussed astrology with you

and had shown you my and my mother's horoscopes. My mother is 100% paralyzed and

suffered in almost all respects. However, you appreciated her horoscope, had

given some favourable comments about her health, even talked about a career for

her, declared her married life very happy etc etc. which all was complete

nonsense. After describing the facts by me, you had justified the same with the

same horoscope. In other readings too, nobody there was impressed with your

astrological competence. Neither you have demonstrated your astrological skills

here on this forum of vedic astrology convincingly. Persons

like you always elude to comment over unknown horoscope.

 

My question is that when you can't predict efficiently, how can you come to know

what would have been the results without a gemstone and that the particular

stone has benefited the native. If you recommend a stone despite all this, what

people should think about you ? This is for all astrologers (or quacks) who sell

gemstones themselves or get hefty commission from the Jewelers. It is most

unfortunate that people having blind faith in astrology get cheated of their

hard earned money.

 

Will you stop all this now or will arrange for some messages protecting you by

stating that you are a good astrologer and they had been benefited by you.

Incidentally, I remind the warning of Shri K.N.Rao - " Never get impressed by

the fact that one has authored books on astrology or is the so called (even self

proclaimed) Guru - always ask him first to tell something about you himself /

herself, only then go ahead".

 

I have written all this to warn innocent people here lest they should get

cheated. One should avoid consulting astrologers who sell gemstone themselves or

insist on purchasing from particular jewellers or offer to do poojas and

remedies for you on exorbitant payments. They can do nothing good to you except

depriving you of your hard earned money.

 

P.Kumar (Mumbai)

 

 

 

-

"Swee Chan" <swee

<vedic astrology>; "SJCA" <>;

<sohamsa>

Cc: "'Sanjay Rath'" <sanjayrath; "Sarbani"

<sarbani; "'RICHARD SHAW BROWN'" <rsb

Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:01 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

 

 

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Arjun,

> Namaste

>

> I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their

> intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a

> patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that

> doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart

> surgeon. Agree?

>

> We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only

> recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the

> best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We

> consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also

> based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of

> the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for

> some, we have it immediately under our tuck.

>

> I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot

> afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that

> we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due

> to our punya!!!

>

> For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones,

> I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of

> each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are

> worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case.

>

> Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in

> the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam

> that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that

> gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book.

> Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are

> not versed in the science of gemstones. Period.

> In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides

> helping to correct other health issues.

>

> Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or

> hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me,

> you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no

> one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor.

>

> By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as

> your second message as a repeat of the first.

>

> Love,

> Swee

>

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004

> Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

>

> dear kumarji

>

> i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting

> benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his

> astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups.

>

> i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone

> to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i

> lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and

> the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard

> before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds,

> trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%,

> 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25%

> energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect.

>

> i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank

> malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group.

> since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some

> researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones

> are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who

> recommend these stones can answer better.

>

> anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on

> the stone believers.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24

> wrote:

> >

> > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If

> stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at

> some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't

> know everything about his bad health) so seriously ?

> >

> > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on

> strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much

> easier.

> >

> > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an

> ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be

> preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in

> this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is

> more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may

> give you inner peace and spiritual advancement.

> >

> >

> > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> >

> > -

> > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> >

> >

> > > dear friend kumarji

> > >

> > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business

> but

> > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine

> > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work.

> > >

> > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem

> > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative.

> > >

> > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending

> stones

> > > and have not recommended stones to any one.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else.

> > > >

> > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > respected sir,

> > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio

> > > asc),

> > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of

> > > problems

> > > > > in relationships).

> > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be

> > > very

> > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities

> > > included by

> > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be

> > > advisable to

> > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > astrology/info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> > >

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Dear P. Kumar,

 

I appreciated your efforts to bring the facts to the surface.Sooner or later ,

your capabilities will be known to all.

 

Thanks ,

 

skotak

 

P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote:

Dear Swee,

You should agree at one point - one who believes in and recommends a gemstone

must be a good astrologer himself / herself. Now remember your visit to Mumbai

when you stayed at the house of shri J.K.Dasgupta in Vashi, Mumbai. You were

having gemstones for sale with you, almost all of which cost more than Rs.

50,000/-. I (Praveen Kumar then), along with others discussed astrology with you

and had shown you my and my mother's horoscopes. My mother is 100% paralyzed and

suffered in almost all respects. However, you appreciated her horoscope, had

given some favourable comments about her health, even talked about a career for

her, declared her married life very happy etc etc. which all was complete

nonsense. After describing the facts by me, you had justified the same with the

same horoscope. In other readings too, nobody there was impressed with your

astrological competence. Neither you have demonstrated your astrological skills

here on this forum of vedic astrology convincingly. Persons

like you always elude to comment over unknown horoscope.

 

My question is that when you can't predict efficiently, how can you come to know

what would have been the results without a gemstone and that the particular

stone has benefited the native. If you recommend a stone despite all this, what

people should think about you ? This is for all astrologers (or quacks) who sell

gemstones themselves or get hefty commission from the Jewelers. It is most

unfortunate that people having blind faith in astrology get cheated of their

hard earned money.

 

Will you stop all this now or will arrange for some messages protecting you by

stating that you are a good astrologer and they had been benefited by you.

Incidentally, I remind the warning of Shri K.N.Rao - " Never get impressed by

the fact that one has authored books on astrology or is the so called (even self

proclaimed) Guru - always ask him first to tell something about you himself /

herself, only then go ahead".

 

I have written all this to warn innocent people here lest they should get

cheated. One should avoid consulting astrologers who sell gemstone themselves or

insist on purchasing from particular jewellers or offer to do poojas and

remedies for you on exorbitant payments. They can do nothing good to you except

depriving you of your hard earned money.

 

P.Kumar (Mumbai)

 

 

 

-

"Swee Chan" <swee

<vedic astrology>; "SJCA" <>;

<sohamsa>

Cc: "'Sanjay Rath'" <sanjayrath; "Sarbani"

<sarbani; "'RICHARD SHAW BROWN'" <rsb

Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:01 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

 

 

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Arjun,

> Namaste

>

> I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their

> intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a

> patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that

> doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart

> surgeon. Agree?

>

> We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only

> recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the

> best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We

> consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also

> based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of

> the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for

> some, we have it immediately under our tuck.

>

> I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot

> afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that

> we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due

> to our punya!!!

>

> For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones,

> I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of

> each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are

> worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case.

>

> Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in

> the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam

> that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that

> gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book.

> Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are

> not versed in the science of gemstones. Period.

> In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides

> helping to correct other health issues.

>

> Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or

> hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me,

> you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no

> one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor.

>

> By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as

> your second message as a repeat of the first.

>

> Love,

> Swee

>

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004

> Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

>

> dear kumarji

>

> i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting

> benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his

> astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups.

>

> i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone

> to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i

> lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and

> the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard

> before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds,

> trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%,

> 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25%

> energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect.

>

> i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank

> malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group.

> since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some

> researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones

> are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who

> recommend these stones can answer better.

>

> anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on

> the stone believers.

>

> with best wishes

> arjun

>

> vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24

> wrote:

> >

> > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If

> stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at

> some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't

> know everything about his bad health) so seriously ?

> >

> > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on

> strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much

> easier.

> >

> > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an

> ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be

> preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in

> this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is

> more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may

> give you inner peace and spiritual advancement.

> >

> >

> > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> >

> > -

> > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> >

> >

> > > dear friend kumarji

> > >

> > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business

> but

> > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine

> > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work.

> > >

> > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem

> > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative.

> > >

> > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending

> stones

> > > and have not recommended stones to any one.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else.

> > > >

> > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > respected sir,

> > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio

> > > asc),

> > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of

> > > problems

> > > > > in relationships).

> > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be

> > > very

> > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities

> > > included by

> > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be

> > > advisable to

> > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > astrology/info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Kumar,

Even though I appreciate the knowledge of Swee, I can not but

appreciate the totally rebellious and sincere comments of you, not at

all afraid of the consequences. I feel that the same nature and

commitment to truth, should be the hallmark of any sincere

astrologer. I cannot but agree with the statement of Kotak that "I

appreciated your efforts to bring the facts to the surface. Sooner or

later , your capabilities will be known to all." Wish you all the

best. Keep it up.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

vedic astrology, sharad kotak <skotak35

wrote:

>

> Dear P. Kumar,

>

> I appreciated your efforts to bring the facts to the

surface.Sooner or later , your capabilities will be known to all.

>

> Thanks ,

>

> skotak

>

> P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote:

> Dear Swee,

> You should agree at one point - one who believes in and recommends

a gemstone must be a good astrologer himself / herself. Now remember

your visit to Mumbai when you stayed at the house of shri

J.K.Dasgupta in Vashi, Mumbai. You were having gemstones for sale

with you, almost all of which cost more than Rs. 50,000/-. I (Praveen

Kumar then), along with others discussed astrology with you and had

shown you my and my mother's horoscopes. My mother is 100% paralyzed

and suffered in almost all respects. However, you appreciated her

horoscope, had given some favourable comments about her health, even

talked about a career for her, declared her married life very happy

etc etc. which all was complete nonsense. After describing the facts

by me, you had justified the same with the same horoscope. In other

readings too, nobody there was impressed with your astrological

competence. Neither you have demonstrated your astrological skills

here on this forum of vedic astrology convincingly. Persons

> like you always elude to comment over unknown horoscope.

>

> My question is that when you can't predict efficiently, how can you

come to know what would have been the results without a gemstone and

that the particular stone has benefited the native. If you recommend

a stone despite all this, what people should think about you ? This

is for all astrologers (or quacks) who sell gemstones themselves or

get hefty commission from the Jewelers. It is most unfortunate that

people having blind faith in astrology get cheated of their hard

earned money.

>

> Will you stop all this now or will arrange for some messages

protecting you by stating that you are a good astrologer and they had

been benefited by you. Incidentally, I remind the warning of Shri

K.N.Rao - " Never get impressed by the fact that one has authored

books on astrology or is the so called (even self proclaimed) Guru -

always ask him first to tell something about you himself / herself,

only then go ahead".

>

> I have written all this to warn innocent people here lest they

should get cheated. One should avoid consulting astrologers who sell

gemstone themselves or insist on purchasing from particular jewellers

or offer to do poojas and remedies for you on exorbitant payments.

They can do nothing good to you except depriving you of your hard

earned money.

>

> P.Kumar (Mumbai)

>

>

>

> -

> "Swee Chan" <swee

> <vedic astrology>; "SJCA" <SJC-

Africa>; <sohamsa>

> Cc: "'Sanjay Rath'" <sanjayrath; "Sarbani"

<sarbani; "'RICHARD SHAW BROWN'" <rsb

> Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:01 AM

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

>

>

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Arjun,

> > Namaste

> >

> > I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and

their

> > intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this

way, if a

> > patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what

will that

> > doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient

to a heart

> > surgeon. Agree?

> >

> > We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will

not only

> > recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search

for the

> > best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our

clients. We

> > consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best.

It is also

> > based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them.

Some of

> > the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine

gemstone while for

> > some, we have it immediately under our tuck.

> >

> > I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If

one cannot

> > afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma

has it that

> > we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie

crumbles due

> > to our punya!!!

> >

> > For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing

gemstones,

> > I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at

the end of

> > each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks

you are

> > worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case.

> >

> > Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several

hints in

> > the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava

Navanitam

> > that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should

prescribe that

> > gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book.

> > Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL

translators who are

> > not versed in the science of gemstones. Period.

> > In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer

besides

> > helping to correct other health issues.

> >

> > Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a

tree (or

> > hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it?

Believe me,

> > you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100%

beneficial, then no

> > one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a

doctor.

> >

> > By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye

problems as

> > your second message as a repeat of the first.

> >

> > Love,

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of

panditarjun2004

> > Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> >

> > dear kumarji

> >

> > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting

> > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his

> > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups.

> >

> > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a

stone

> > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups

i

> > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture

and

> > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard

> > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds,

> > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%,

75%,

> > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25%

> > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect.

> >

> > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank

> > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this

group.

> > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some

> > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the

stones

> > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who

> > recommend these stones can answer better.

> >

> > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism

on

> > the stone believers.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If

> > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy

at

> > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we

don't

> > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ?

> > >

> > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation

on

> > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is

much

> > easier.

> > >

> > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an

> > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be

> > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in

> > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God

is

> > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones

may

> > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement.

> > >

> > >

> > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> > >

> > > -

> > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani

> > >

> > >

> > > > dear friend kumarji

> > > >

> > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a

business

> > but

> > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine

> > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work.

> > > >

> > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem

> > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative.

> > > >

> > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending

> > stones

> > > > and have not recommended stones to any one.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > arjun

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything

else.

> > > > >

> > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai)

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@>

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga

Mani

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > respected sir,

> > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a

scorpio

> > > > asc),

> > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me

because of

> > > > problems

> > > > > > in relationships).

> > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it

would be

> > > > very

> > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities

> > > > included by

> > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be

> > > > advisable to

> > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

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