Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Dear arjun garu, I have also read the chart for only defective eyes and not for blindness. On the other hand, my main thrust in the thread is to find the relation of moon with eyes and not about the general combinations causing eyesight/blindness. Once I understand this relation, may be I will concentrate on the other aspects. I have found a reference that says Moon represents the left eye of the males and right eye of the females. Also, the following combinations involve moon for eye problems: 1. L2,L7 or L1 is with moon in the dustanas will give eye problems 2. Moon in 12th house makes the native lose the right eye. Moon in 12th along with the sun makes native lose both the eyes 3. Same results can be predicted if Sun and moon are in 8th house 4. Moon with Mars in 6,8 or 12th House will render the native eye less 5. Moon in 6th, Sun in 8th, Saturn in 12th and Mars in 2nd will make the person blind I am sure there is more to the subject than this which I hope to post in the coming days. regards, Kishore patnaik vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear kishore garu > > in this native of udaipur, he is not blind and only myopic because > of the following: > > 1. if the ascendant lord and second lord are conjoined with sun and > venus and placed in a dushthana, the native will be blind. however, > this combination in the native has not occurred in a dushthana and > hence the native is spared from blindness. also this conjoin is > receiving jupiter's aspect. > 2. if lord of the sixth house is retrograde, it gives eye problems. > 3. if lords of 2nd and 12th houses (representing both eyes) are > debilitated, it represents weakness of eyes. in this native 2nd > lord mars is debilitated. > 4. venus representing eyesight (white eyeballs as per swee) becomes > weak in combustion with sun and mars as in this native. > 5. in attributing planets to physical anatomy, sun and moon > represent both the eyes. in this native moon is not bad and also > the 12th lord mercury is not bad. hence the native is not blind. > > with best wishes > arjun > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > I have read one of the case studies provided by nonamenoname in > this > > thread. > > > > regards, > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > In vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear kishore garu > > > > > > please furnish birth details so that we can see lordships as > well > > > and read accodingly as a case study. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Let us take the example of native born in 1936 in Udaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > His Jupiter is in second, causing myopia. Any karaka in the > bhava > > > > reduces the good effects. (HOwever, Jupiter in second does not > > > reduce > > > > the wealth, but from this example, we will have to think he > gives > > > bad > > > > eye sight) > > > > > > > > Jupiter is also aspecting the Sun and venus, who cause eye > > > problems. > > > > Sun in ascendant for cancer is said to be causing eye problems > > but > > > in > > > > experience, this is not proved. Here, sun is in cancer but not > > > > ascendant. > > > > > > > > The only other explantion for the myopia is that mars is in > > neecha > > > and > > > > aspects of Moon and Jupiter has not caused neecha bhanga. The > > > expers > > > > may confirm this. > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the sashtamsa which stands for the health > and > > > debts > > > > gives much more good evidence of the eye problems by having > > > afflicted > > > > 2nd and 12th houses 0f D6. > > > > > > > > However, it can also be deduced that left eye(ruled by 12th) > is > > > more > > > > afflicted than the right since saturn in D6 is in Virgo, which > is > > > the > > > > 12th of Rasi chart. (Saturn in the mercury houses is not > really > > > good) > > > > > > > > > > > > However, here moon is occupying the scorpio in D6 and hence, > what > > > swee > > > > has said about moon may get validated. Interestingly, moon > also > > > aspects > > > > sun and venus. > > > > > > > > In any case, by looking at one single chart, we should not > deduce > > > > general rules. > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Dear Kishorji / Arjunji, Hello. I'm sorry for butting in. I was reading this thread, and realised that in my chart I have the following combinations: Cancer Lagna (with Saturn) Sun/Moon in 12th House Mars/Venus in 10th house. My details: 18/06/1977 8=15am Mumbai Regards, Kunal vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Dear arjun garu, > > I have also read the chart for only defective eyes and not for > blindness. > > On the other hand, my main thrust in the thread is to find the > relation of moon with eyes and not about the general combinations > causing eyesight/blindness. Once I understand this relation, may be I > will concentrate on the other aspects. > > I have found a reference that says Moon represents the left eye of > the males and right eye of the females. > > Also, the following combinations involve moon for eye problems: > > 1. L2,L7 or L1 is with moon in the dustanas will give eye problems > 2. Moon in 12th house makes the native lose the right eye. Moon in > 12th along with the sun makes native lose both the eyes > 3. Same results can be predicted if Sun and moon are in 8th house > 4. Moon with Mars in 6,8 or 12th House will render the native eye less > 5. Moon in 6th, Sun in 8th, Saturn in 12th and Mars in 2nd will make > the person blind > > > I am sure there is more to the subject than this which I hope to post > in the coming days. > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear kishore garu > > > > in this native of udaipur, he is not blind and only myopic because > > of the following: > > > > 1. if the ascendant lord and second lord are conjoined with sun and > > venus and placed in a dushthana, the native will be blind. > however, > > this combination in the native has not occurred in a dushthana and > > hence the native is spared from blindness. also this conjoin is > > receiving jupiter's aspect. > > 2. if lord of the sixth house is retrograde, it gives eye problems. > > 3. if lords of 2nd and 12th houses (representing both eyes) are > > debilitated, it represents weakness of eyes. in this native 2nd > > lord mars is debilitated. > > 4. venus representing eyesight (white eyeballs as per swee) becomes > > weak in combustion with sun and mars as in this native. > > 5. in attributing planets to physical anatomy, sun and moon > > represent both the eyes. in this native moon is not bad and also > > the 12th lord mercury is not bad. hence the native is not blind. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > I have read one of the case studies provided by nonamenoname in > > this > > > thread. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > In vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear kishore garu > > > > > > > > please furnish birth details so that we can see lordships as > > well > > > > and read accodingly as a case study. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Let us take the example of native born in 1936 in Udaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His Jupiter is in second, causing myopia. Any karaka in the > > bhava > > > > > reduces the good effects. (HOwever, Jupiter in second does > not > > > > reduce > > > > > the wealth, but from this example, we will have to think he > > gives > > > > bad > > > > > eye sight) > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is also aspecting the Sun and venus, who cause eye > > > > problems. > > > > > Sun in ascendant for cancer is said to be causing eye > problems > > > but > > > > in > > > > > experience, this is not proved. Here, sun is in cancer but > not > > > > > ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > The only other explantion for the myopia is that mars is in > > > neecha > > > > and > > > > > aspects of Moon and Jupiter has not caused neecha bhanga. The > > > > expers > > > > > may confirm this. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the sashtamsa which stands for the health > > and > > > > debts > > > > > gives much more good evidence of the eye problems by having > > > > afflicted > > > > > 2nd and 12th houses 0f D6. > > > > > > > > > > However, it can also be deduced that left eye(ruled by 12th) > > is > > > > more > > > > > afflicted than the right since saturn in D6 is in Virgo, > which > > is > > > > the > > > > > 12th of Rasi chart. (Saturn in the mercury houses is not > > really > > > > good) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, here moon is occupying the scorpio in D6 and hence, > > what > > > > swee > > > > > has said about moon may get validated. Interestingly, moon > > also > > > > aspects > > > > > sun and venus. > > > > > > > > > > In any case, by looking at one single chart, we should not > > deduce > > > > > general rules. > > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 This is the problem almost always that effects public forums as this. The combinations are only general indications and should not be taken verbatim. You need to look for the confirmation in the D6 and other charts for such major problems. Also, the running dasas are very important. For eg., SAturn in the ascendant for cancer is not a very favorable situation as indicated by BV raman.However in your case, SAturn is in his own house in the navamsa. On the other hand, Sun is in debilitation in navamsa which is likely to cause either eye problems or fall of hair, which is confirmed by Venus being with Rahu in the navamsa. Hope this helps. Kishore patnaik vedic astrology, "mehtakunal2707" <mehtakunal2707 wrote: > > Dear Kishorji / Arjunji, > > Hello. I'm sorry for butting in. I was reading this thread, and > realised that in my chart I have the following combinations: > > Cancer Lagna (with Saturn) > > Sun/Moon in 12th House > > Mars/Venus in 10th house. > > My details: > > 18/06/1977 > 8=15am > Mumbai > > Regards, > > Kunal > > > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > Dear arjun garu, > > > > I have also read the chart for only defective eyes and not for > > blindness. > > > > On the other hand, my main thrust in the thread is to find the > > relation of moon with eyes and not about the general combinations > > causing eyesight/blindness. Once I understand this relation, may be I > > will concentrate on the other aspects. > > > > I have found a reference that says Moon represents the left eye of > > the males and right eye of the females. > > > > Also, the following combinations involve moon for eye problems: > > > > 1. L2,L7 or L1 is with moon in the dustanas will give eye problems > > 2. Moon in 12th house makes the native lose the right eye. Moon in > > 12th along with the sun makes native lose both the eyes > > 3. Same results can be predicted if Sun and moon are in 8th house > > 4. Moon with Mars in 6,8 or 12th House will render the native eye less > > 5. Moon in 6th, Sun in 8th, Saturn in 12th and Mars in 2nd will make > > the person blind > > > > > > I am sure there is more to the subject than this which I hope to post > > in the coming days. > > > > regards, > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear kishore garu > > > > > > in this native of udaipur, he is not blind and only myopic because > > > of the following: > > > > > > 1. if the ascendant lord and second lord are conjoined with sun and > > > venus and placed in a dushthana, the native will be blind. > > however, > > > this combination in the native has not occurred in a dushthana and > > > hence the native is spared from blindness. also this conjoin is > > > receiving jupiter's aspect. > > > 2. if lord of the sixth house is retrograde, it gives eye problems. > > > 3. if lords of 2nd and 12th houses (representing both eyes) are > > > debilitated, it represents weakness of eyes. in this native 2nd > > > lord mars is debilitated. > > > 4. venus representing eyesight (white eyeballs as per swee) becomes > > > weak in combustion with sun and mars as in this native. > > > 5. in attributing planets to physical anatomy, sun and moon > > > represent both the eyes. in this native moon is not bad and also > > > the 12th lord mercury is not bad. hence the native is not blind. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have read one of the case studies provided by nonamenoname in > > > this > > > > thread. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear kishore garu > > > > > > > > > > please furnish birth details so that we can see lordships as > > > well > > > > > and read accodingly as a case study. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > > arjun > > > > > vedic astrology, "kishore mohan" > > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us take the example of native born in 1936 in Udaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His Jupiter is in second, causing myopia. Any karaka in the > > > bhava > > > > > > reduces the good effects. (HOwever, Jupiter in second does > > not > > > > > reduce > > > > > > the wealth, but from this example, we will have to think he > > > gives > > > > > bad > > > > > > eye sight) > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is also aspecting the Sun and venus, who cause eye > > > > > problems. > > > > > > Sun in ascendant for cancer is said to be causing eye > > problems > > > > but > > > > > in > > > > > > experience, this is not proved. Here, sun is in cancer but > > not > > > > > > ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > > > The only other explantion for the myopia is that mars is in > > > > neecha > > > > > and > > > > > > aspects of Moon and Jupiter has not caused neecha bhanga. The > > > > > expers > > > > > > may confirm this. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the sashtamsa which stands for the health > > > and > > > > > debts > > > > > > gives much more good evidence of the eye problems by having > > > > > afflicted > > > > > > 2nd and 12th houses 0f D6. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, it can also be deduced that left eye(ruled by 12th) > > > is > > > > > more > > > > > > afflicted than the right since saturn in D6 is in Virgo, > > which > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > 12th of Rasi chart. (Saturn in the mercury houses is not > > > really > > > > > good) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, here moon is occupying the scorpio in D6 and hence, > > > what > > > > > swee > > > > > > has said about moon may get validated. Interestingly, moon > > > also > > > > > aspects > > > > > > sun and venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case, by looking at one single chart, we should not > > > deduce > > > > > > general rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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