Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Dear Panditji, Vande gurun isha bhaktan!!! I'm very happy to read your letter. I agree with you whole heartedly that only Bhagavan owns the copyright on the Vedic scriptures, even Vyasa himself would never take credit. Only Bhagavan deserves credit for this. I also agree that Rudraksha is a better alternative than gems, especially for the poorer people who cannot afford to purchase "jyotish quality" gems. I also feel that Lord Shankar, as Gunavatar and Mahadeva, is much greater than the Grahadevas, so his "eye" the Rudraksha is also more powerful than any Graha related gems. The important matter is that quite a few people who buy gems for Jyotish end up with very flawed gems, and such heavily flawed gems are considered the 'opposite' of auspicious. So in that case and in every case it is possible to wear auspicious Rudraksha (rather than flawed bad quality gems). Concerning the Naga Mani, I have only once examined a real Ichadhari Cobra Hood Naga Mani as described in Sri Garuda Puranam by Sri Suta Goswami. That was not for sale, and was owned by an ultra rich Muslim family in Sri Lanka who sent their agents to Bangkok to show me a few years back. I have a picture of it glowing in the darkness that I will upload to the Photos section of this group. I was amazed to see it, and feel fortunate to have touched it. Other than that I have never seen real cobra pearl. Thank you for your kind words. Best rgds to all, Richard vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend richard > > having seen your contribution in my other group > and visited the websites and various groups > owned by you, i really appreciate the research done by you on these > holy objects. pure gemstones and rudraksha are only two of the many > mystic holy items which are even unheard and unseen by many hindus. > > however, no one can take credit for the holy vedas or puranas, for > they have come to us freely without any patent or copyright. this > is what yoga guru ramdevji says to his crores of disciples that the > pranayama exercises taught by him have been revealed freely by the > sages time immemorial and if someone patents it, he is only earning > bad karma. > > let us all share the little knowledge we picked up from the holy > scriptures freely in these august groups without copyrighting them. > > extending your gemstone remedies further, the purest and rarest gems > are not affordable by ordinary indians. the healing wands made of > these pure stones are more efficacious and are even costlier. also > due to the non-clarity on recommendation of stones on anukul or > pratikul planets, i have been recommending and making available only > rudraksha as they are inexpensive and affordable by all classes. > > even though you have been dealing with more than a dozen kinds of > snakegems, can you throw some light on the mystic nagamani or the > ruby of the king cobra. > > looking forward to your continued sharing on various holy objects in > relation to planets and with best wishes and regards. > arjun > > > vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown II" > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > "If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, > then grief, anxiety, > > sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them." > > > > GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 70, Verse 19 > > > > "Pure, flawless gems have auspicious powers which can protect one > from demons, snakes, > > poisons, diseases, sinful reactions, and other dangers, while > flawed stones have the > > opposite effect." > > > > GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 68, Verse 17 > > > > "A gem free from all impurities and radiating its characteristic > internal luster should be > > looked upon as an escort of good luck. A gem which is cracked, > fissured, devoid of luster, > > or appearing rough or sandy, should not be used at all." > > > > AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 > > > > That gems have powers that can effect one's life for better or > worse is stated in the above > > quotes as well many chapters of the Sri Garuda Puranam, such as > the following quote on > > rubies by Sri Suta Goswami, "A ruby, although genuine, should not > be worn if it has strong > > color banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal > cracks, a sandy > > appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone > using such a flawed ruby, > > even out of ignorance, will suffer from disease, or loss of > fortune." > > > > Gemstones are the Earth's natural conduit for piezoelectric energy > waves radiated from the > > Nine planets recognized by the Vedic science of "sidereal" > astrology. It is both common > > sense and the traditional Vedic recommendation that only "clean" > gems will receive and > > transmit "undisturbed" astral energy waves > > > > Since there were no microscopes to detect flaws in those ancient > times, clean to them > > meant eye-clean. > > > > At present, the gem trade has lost much of its integrity because > of the widespread > > treatment of natural gems to conceal or change imperfections. The > oiling of flawed > > emeralds as a routine procedure is an obvious example of such > treatment. The oil enters > > the gem through internal cracks which break the surface of the > stone. After a period of > > time the oil dries and the flaws are again visible. > > > > ---Emeralds are green beryl by definition > > > > ---Included is flawed by definition > > > > If Emerald were flawed by definition then Shastras would not have > recommended - > > because Shastra orders, "only eye clean" gems are to be used. > > > > Most commercial green beryl these days is heavily included...but > that is the cheap stuff. If > > people are willing and able to pay the price from $1000-$5000 per > carat (cheaper than > > clean ruby) then they can have non-oiled clean emerald... But the > poor people buy > > "cracked" and thus remain poor, and THIS FACT makes the rich > people NOT believe in > > Planetary gemology clean and auspicious emerald cannot be oiled > because it has no > > internal cracks breaking the surface. There is no way for oil or > anything to enter into a > > fine, 'intact' non-cracked single unit gem crystal of auspicious > health. > > > > Flawed gems are far less beautiful and can be a source of > misfortune. Most people will not > > buy torn clothes or a new car with obvious defects. Almost no one > uses cracked > > eyeglasses. Isn't it odd that almost everyone uses flawed gems? > > > > A good way to think about gem clarity is to mentally compare the > location and seriousness > > of flaws in a gem to similar defects in your own body. If there > are minimal flaws in either a > > gem or your body, there is life and power. But if the defects are > too severe, there is neither > > life nor power. Vedic texts state clearly that only amala, CLEAN > gems are acceptable for > > use by thoughtful humans. > > > > Beside the Navaratna, or 9 primary gems, there are many other > natural gemstone choices > > based on color. If one cannot afford the cost of a clean precious > gem, one can choose an > > Upa-ratna, or secondary gem. For example: Instead of selecting > emerald for the planet > > Mercury (Budha-graha), one can also use tsavorite (green > grossularite), chrome-green or > > green tourmaline, chrome-green or green diopside, green peridot or > green jade. Jade, > > being an "aggregate" (made up of tiny crystals all fused together) > is less preferable than > > the other Mercury gems which are "single unit" crystals. > > > > There ARE eye-clean, beautiful unburned precious gems on this > planet, but they are scarce > > and costly. Rather than select a flawed primary gem, it is far > wiser to choose a flawless > > Upa-ratna, or secondary gem. These Uparatnas are less expensive > than their precious > > counterparts, and yet conduct the same astral energy of their > associated planet. They are > > also easier to find without flaws or treatment. > > > > See below for a list of all natural gems and their > piezoelectricity associated planets. > > > > See below for list of all natural gems and their associated > planets: > > > > 1) RUBY, Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are > ruled by the Sun; > > > > 2) NATURAL PEARL, Moonstone, white coral and natural (death) ivory > are ruled by the > > Moon; > > > > 3) YELLOW SAPPHIRE, Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor), and > yellow tourmaline are ruled > > by Jupiter; > > > > 4) HESSONITE, Orange zircon, spessartite, malaya, and other orange > garnets are ruled by > > Rahu; > > > > 5) EMERALD, Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and > jade are ruled by Mercury; > > > > 6) DIAMOND, White (colorless) sapphire, white topaz, zircon and > colorless quartz are ruled > > by Venus; > > > > 7) CHRYSOBERYL CAT'S EYE, Beryl, apatite, fibrolite, and > tourmaline cat's eyes are ruled by > > Ketu; > > > > 8) BLUE SAPPHIRE, blue spinel, indicolite (blue tourmaline), > iolite and amethyst are ruled by > > Saturn; > > > > 9) RED CORAL, Carnelian and reddish bloodstone are ruled by Mars > > > > REMEMBER: Whatever gem(s) you use should be flawless, because > according to ancient > > Vedic wisdom only "eye-clean" gems are helpful and attractive, > while visibly flawed gems > > are defective and disturbing! > > > > Having described in brief the individual nature and powers of the > nine planetary > > gemstones along with the Uparatnas (semiprecious gems), we will > now elaborate on their > > preparation and use as astrological talismans. > > > > Ref: Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans ?1995 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 dear friend richard i bow to the shiva in you. after searching for recommendation of stones in the vedic holy scriptures, i found the great benefic results of only ruby including samantaka mani which is a ruby and not much about other stones. also the limited reference in the holy scriptures support anukula school thought i.e. to wear stones of a benefic planet which swee ji and respected rath ji also recommended publicly. i personally never recommend stone for a malefic planet. you are a gem in the gem circles and you have a vast collection of stones as well as snakepearls and other holiest and rarest animal parts which are unheard and unseen by many in this part of the world including me. you and i share the same common cause of making available the rarest genuine holy objects to the natives who get what they want after getting these lucky charms. i would be personally delighted to see the photograph of the nagamani when you send the same and you are really fortunate to have touched it. besides this nagamani in srilanka, recently i also heard its existence somewhere in tamilnadu and shall share further details later. there are many indianajones searching for this. if you could correlate the benefits of countless lucky charms made available by you to planetary affects, you would be doing a great service to the suffering and i also learn few things from you. looking forward to further knowing sharing and with best wishes and regards arjun vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown II" <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Panditji, > > Vande gurun isha bhaktan!!! I'm very happy to read your letter. I agree with you whole > heartedly that only Bhagavan owns the copyright on the Vedic scriptures, even Vyasa > himself would never take credit. Only Bhagavan deserves credit for this. > > I also agree that Rudraksha is a better alternative than gems, especially for the poorer > people who cannot afford to purchase "jyotish quality" gems. I also feel that Lord Shankar, > as Gunavatar and Mahadeva, is much greater than the Grahadevas, so his "eye" the > Rudraksha is also more powerful than any Graha related gems. > > The important matter is that quite a few people who buy gems for Jyotish end up with very > flawed gems, and such heavily flawed gems are considered the 'opposite' of auspicious. So > in that case and in every case it is possible to wear auspicious Rudraksha (rather than > flawed bad quality gems). > > Concerning the Naga Mani, I have only once examined a real Ichadhari Cobra Hood Naga > Mani as described in Sri Garuda Puranam by Sri Suta Goswami. That was not for sale, and > was owned by an ultra rich Muslim family in Sri Lanka who sent their agents to Bangkok to > show me a few years back. I have a picture of it glowing in the darkness that I will upload > to the Photos section of this group. I was amazed to see it, and feel fortunate to have > touched it. Other than that I have never seen real cobra pearl. > > Thank you for your kind words. > > Best rgds to all, > Richard > > vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@> > wrote: > > > > dear friend richard > > > > having seen your contribution in my other group > > and visited the websites and various groups > > owned by you, i really appreciate the research done by you on these > > holy objects. pure gemstones and rudraksha are only two of the many > > mystic holy items which are even unheard and unseen by many hindus. > > > > however, no one can take credit for the holy vedas or puranas, for > > they have come to us freely without any patent or copyright. this > > is what yoga guru ramdevji says to his crores of disciples that the > > pranayama exercises taught by him have been revealed freely by the > > sages time immemorial and if someone patents it, he is only earning > > bad karma. > > > > let us all share the little knowledge we picked up from the holy > > scriptures freely in these august groups without copyrighting them. > > > > extending your gemstone remedies further, the purest and rarest gems > > are not affordable by ordinary indians. the healing wands made of > > these pure stones are more efficacious and are even costlier. also > > due to the non-clarity on recommendation of stones on anukul or > > pratikul planets, i have been recommending and making available only > > rudraksha as they are inexpensive and affordable by all classes. > > > > even though you have been dealing with more than a dozen kinds of > > snakegems, can you throw some light on the mystic nagamani or the > > ruby of the king cobra. > > > > looking forward to your continued sharing on various holy objects in > > relation to planets and with best wishes and regards. > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown II" > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > "If anyone wears a gem with many flaws (even) out of ignorance, > > then grief, anxiety, > > > sickness, death, loss of wealth and other evils torment them." > > > > > > GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 70, Verse 19 > > > > > > "Pure, flawless gems have auspicious powers which can protect one > > from demons, snakes, > > > poisons, diseases, sinful reactions, and other dangers, while > > flawed stones have the > > > opposite effect." > > > > > > GARUDA-PURANAM: Chapter 68, Verse 17 > > > > > > "A gem free from all impurities and radiating its characteristic > > internal luster should be > > > looked upon as an escort of good luck. A gem which is cracked, > > fissured, devoid of luster, > > > or appearing rough or sandy, should not be used at all." > > > > > > AGNI-PURANAM: Chapter 246, Verse 7 & 8 > > > > > > That gems have powers that can effect one's life for better or > > worse is stated in the above > > > quotes as well many chapters of the Sri Garuda Puranam, such as > > the following quote on > > > rubies by Sri Suta Goswami, "A ruby, although genuine, should not > > be worn if it has strong > > > color banding, excessive inclusions within like numerous internal > > cracks, a sandy > > > appearance, a rough surface, or is dull and lusterless. Anyone > > using such a flawed ruby, > > > even out of ignorance, will suffer from disease, or loss of > > fortune." > > > > > > Gemstones are the Earth's natural conduit for piezoelectric energy > > waves radiated from the > > > Nine planets recognized by the Vedic science of "sidereal" > > astrology. It is both common > > > sense and the traditional Vedic recommendation that only "clean" > > gems will receive and > > > transmit "undisturbed" astral energy waves > > > > > > Since there were no microscopes to detect flaws in those ancient > > times, clean to them > > > meant eye-clean. > > > > > > At present, the gem trade has lost much of its integrity because > > of the widespread > > > treatment of natural gems to conceal or change imperfections. The > > oiling of flawed > > > emeralds as a routine procedure is an obvious example of such > > treatment. The oil enters > > > the gem through internal cracks which break the surface of the > > stone. After a period of > > > time the oil dries and the flaws are again visible. > > > > > > ---Emeralds are green beryl by definition > > > > > > ---Included is flawed by definition > > > > > > If Emerald were flawed by definition then Shastras would not have > > recommended - > > > because Shastra orders, "only eye clean" gems are to be used. > > > > > > Most commercial green beryl these days is heavily included...but > > that is the cheap stuff. If > > > people are willing and able to pay the price from $1000-$5000 per > > carat (cheaper than > > > clean ruby) then they can have non-oiled clean emerald... But the > > poor people buy > > > "cracked" and thus remain poor, and THIS FACT makes the rich > > people NOT believe in > > > Planetary gemology clean and auspicious emerald cannot be oiled > > because it has no > > > internal cracks breaking the surface. There is no way for oil or > > anything to enter into a > > > fine, 'intact' non-cracked single unit gem crystal of auspicious > > health. > > > > > > Flawed gems are far less beautiful and can be a source of > > misfortune. Most people will not > > > buy torn clothes or a new car with obvious defects. Almost no one > > uses cracked > > > eyeglasses. Isn't it odd that almost everyone uses flawed gems? > > > > > > A good way to think about gem clarity is to mentally compare the > > location and seriousness > > > of flaws in a gem to similar defects in your own body. If there > > are minimal flaws in either a > > > gem or your body, there is life and power. But if the defects are > > too severe, there is neither > > > life nor power. Vedic texts state clearly that only amala, CLEAN > > gems are acceptable for > > > use by thoughtful humans. > > > > > > Beside the Navaratna, or 9 primary gems, there are many other > > natural gemstone choices > > > based on color. If one cannot afford the cost of a clean precious > > gem, one can choose an > > > Upa-ratna, or secondary gem. For example: Instead of selecting > > emerald for the planet > > > Mercury (Budha-graha), one can also use tsavorite (green > > grossularite), chrome-green or > > > green tourmaline, chrome-green or green diopside, green peridot or > > green jade. Jade, > > > being an "aggregate" (made up of tiny crystals all fused together) > > is less preferable than > > > the other Mercury gems which are "single unit" crystals. > > > > > > There ARE eye-clean, beautiful unburned precious gems on this > > planet, but they are scarce > > > and costly. Rather than select a flawed primary gem, it is far > > wiser to choose a flawless > > > Upa-ratna, or secondary gem. These Uparatnas are less expensive > > than their precious > > > counterparts, and yet conduct the same astral energy of their > > associated planet. They are > > > also easier to find without flaws or treatment. > > > > > > See below for a list of all natural gems and their > > piezoelectricity associated planets. > > > > > > See below for list of all natural gems and their associated > > planets: > > > > > > 1) RUBY, Red spinel, red garnet and red tourmaline (rubellite) are > > ruled by the Sun; > > > > > > 2) NATURAL PEARL, Moonstone, white coral and natural (death) ivory > > are ruled by the > > > Moon; > > > > > > 3) YELLOW SAPPHIRE, Yellow topaz, yellow beryl (heliodor), and > > yellow tourmaline are ruled > > > by Jupiter; > > > > > > 4) HESSONITE, Orange zircon, spessartite, malaya, and other orange > > garnets are ruled by > > > Rahu; > > > > > > 5) EMERALD, Tsavorite, green tourmaline, diopside, peridot and > > jade are ruled by Mercury; > > > > > > 6) DIAMOND, White (colorless) sapphire, white topaz, zircon and > > colorless quartz are ruled > > > by Venus; > > > > > > 7) CHRYSOBERYL CAT'S EYE, Beryl, apatite, fibrolite, and > > tourmaline cat's eyes are ruled by > > > Ketu; > > > > > > 8) BLUE SAPPHIRE, blue spinel, indicolite (blue tourmaline), > > iolite and amethyst are ruled by > > > Saturn; > > > > > > 9) RED CORAL, Carnelian and reddish bloodstone are ruled by Mars > > > > > > REMEMBER: Whatever gem(s) you use should be flawless, because > > according to ancient > > > Vedic wisdom only "eye-clean" gems are helpful and attractive, > > while visibly flawed gems > > > are defective and disturbing! > > > > > > Having described in brief the individual nature and powers of the > > nine planetary > > > gemstones along with the Uparatnas (semiprecious gems), we will > > now elaborate on their > > > preparation and use as astrological talismans. > > > > > > Ref: Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans ?1995 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 respected sir, earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio asc), instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of problems in relationships). about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be very expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities included by default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be advisable to wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. thanks/regards harjeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi <vedic astrology> Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > respected sir, > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio asc), > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of problems > in relationships). > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be very > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities included by > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be advisable to > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 dear friend kumarji you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones and have not recommended stones to any one. with best wishes arjun vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 wrote: > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > - > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi > <vedic astrology> > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > respected sir, > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio asc), > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of problems > > in relationships). > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be very > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities included by > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be advisable to > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much easier. My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 <vedic astrology> Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > dear friend kumarji > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 > wrote: > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > asc), > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > problems > > > in relationships). > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > very > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > included by > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > advisable to > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 dear kumarji i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who recommend these stones can answer better. anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on the stone believers. with best wishes arjun vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 wrote: > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much easier. > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > - > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > <vedic astrology> > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > - > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > asc), > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > problems > > > > in relationships). > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > very > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > included by > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > advisable to > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Arjun, Namaste I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart surgeon. Agree? We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for some, we have it immediately under our tuck. I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due to our punya!!! For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones, I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case. Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book. Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are not versed in the science of gemstones. Period. In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides helping to correct other health issues. Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me, you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor. By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as your second message as a repeat of the first. Love, Swee vedic astrology [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani dear kumarji i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who recommend these stones can answer better. anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on the stone believers. with best wishes arjun vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 wrote: > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much easier. > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > - > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > <vedic astrology> > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > - > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > asc), > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > problems > > > > in relationships). > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > very > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > included by > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > advisable to > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 if the asc. is scorpio can someone wear a diamond to make their relationships better ? thanks/regards harjeet vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arjun, > Namaste > > I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their > intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a > patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that > doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart > surgeon. Agree? > > We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only > recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the > best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We > consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also > based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of > the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for > some, we have it immediately under our tuck. > > I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot > afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that > we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due > to our punya!!! > > For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones, > I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of > each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are > worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case. > > Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in > the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam > that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that > gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book. > Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are > not versed in the science of gemstones. Period. > In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides > helping to correct other health issues. > > Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or > hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me, > you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no > one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor. > > By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as > your second message as a repeat of the first. > > Love, > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 > Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > dear kumarji > > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. > > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. > > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who > recommend these stones can answer better. > > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on > the stone believers. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > wrote: > > > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much > easier. > > > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@> > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business > but > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending > stones > > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > > > - > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > > asc), > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > > problems > > > > > in relationships). > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > > very > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > > included by > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > > advisable to > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 dear swee namaste i fully empathise your observations. remedial therapies have so many ways through which remedies are suggested for the suffering native viz. gem therapy, colour therapy, rudraksha, mantra, yantra, tantra, donations (daan) etc. each is right in its own way. an ayurvedic doctor does not criticise a fellow allopathic or homeopathic doctor. one can ask questions and seek clarifications but shall not indulge in criticism. many of my best fraternal friends recommend only stones as remedies and all of their customers are happy. i read in several holy scriptures where a genuine ruby is supposed to bestow the native a king-like status. similar is the genuine ek mukh round rudraksha from nepal which too has never been seen except by the neaplese king and the late indian prime minister indira gandhi. i appreciate and respect your research on various gems and sharing the same in your website brihaspati. sharing knowledge is divine. dear swee, i will write the eye problems due to various combinations after some time as i have written all these collected from several books and need to type the same. my last experiences in this group make me aware that i shall do my homework better so that if some one asks for the source of each combination i shall be able to answer. but for this i would have written all of them earlier itself. this group has great cognoscenti like you and it is an astrologer's privilege to involve in knowledge sharing threads as happening in this group. with best wishes and regards arjun vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arjun, > Namaste > > I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their > intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a > patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that > doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart > surgeon. Agree? > > We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only > recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the > best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We > consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also > based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of > the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for > some, we have it immediately under our tuck. > > I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot > afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that > we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due > to our punya!!! > > For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones, > I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of > each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are > worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case. > > Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in > the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam > that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that > gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book. > Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are > not versed in the science of gemstones. Period. > In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides > helping to correct other health issues. > > Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or > hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me, > you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no > one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor. > > By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as > your second message as a repeat of the first. > > Love, > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 > Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > dear kumarji > > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. > > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. > > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who > recommend these stones can answer better. > > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on > the stone believers. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > wrote: > > > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much > easier. > > > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@> > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business > but > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending > stones > > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > > > - > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > > asc), > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > > problems > > > > > in relationships). > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > > very > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > > included by > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > > advisable to > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 When I visitem His house in probably 1996 ??? some work was going on. He get his south side clossed with old woods from ship. He is wearing Saffire woth lakhs of rupees. He wanted money and gt that Ask any nemerologyst to analyse Abhishek Bachhan's movies ( Super dooper and check numerologically Check deewar and Zanzir you will get reply skotak P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote: Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much easier. My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 <vedic astrology> Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > dear friend kumarji > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business but > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending stones > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 > wrote: > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi > > <vedic astrology> > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > asc), > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > problems > > > in relationships). > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > very > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > included by > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > advisable to > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Arjuna and Sri Swee i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. Rahu-Ketu are reflection and absorption. Rahu either reflects with amplificaton or is refractive in nature and Ketu absorbs. In other words, you could use Chrysoberyl Cat's Eye to absorb the wrong effects of some other graha too! Similarly Gomedh can be used to amplify the effect of some other Graha! Rahu-Ketu are mother's creation too. They have a role both good and bad. Please do not consider them always as rank malefics. When a King is autocratic, it is Rahu's effect that brings a revolution and a change (Ofcourse other combinations may be involved). Sudden good events can brought about by Ketu too. Rahu can give magnetic personality and attraction. When a person is mired in Tradition or attachment, Rahu can shake the person of it. Each planet has a role, both good or bad and mostly at the same time. These are very useful gemstones but must be prescribed with utmost care and not for frivolous purposes. Just my thoughts Thanks and Regards Bharat On 2/11/06, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear kumarji > > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. > > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. > > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who > recommend these stones can answer better. > > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on > the stone believers. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 > wrote: > > > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much > easier. > > > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business > but > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending > stones > > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > > > - > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > > asc), > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > > problems > > > > > in relationships). > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > > very > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > > included by > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > > advisable to > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Dear Swee, You should agree at one point - one who believes in and recommends a gemstone must be a good astrologer himself / herself. Now remember your visit to Mumbai when you stayed at the house of shri J.K.Dasgupta in Vashi, Mumbai. You were having gemstones for sale with you, almost all of which cost more than Rs. 50,000/-. I (Praveen Kumar then), along with others discussed astrology with you and had shown you my and my mother's horoscopes. My mother is 100% paralyzed and suffered in almost all respects. However, you appreciated her horoscope, had given some favourable comments about her health, even talked about a career for her, declared her married life very happy etc etc. which all was complete nonsense. After describing the facts by me, you had justified the same with the same horoscope. In other readings too, nobody there was impressed with your astrological competence. Neither you have demonstrated your astrological skills here on this forum of vedic astrology convincingly. Persons like you always elude to comment over unknown horoscope. My question is that when you can't predict efficiently, how can you come to know what would have been the results without a gemstone and that the particular stone has benefited the native. If you recommend a stone despite all this, what people should think about you ? This is for all astrologers (or quacks) who sell gemstones themselves or get hefty commission from the Jewelers. It is most unfortunate that people having blind faith in astrology get cheated of their hard earned money. Will you stop all this now or will arrange for some messages protecting you by stating that you are a good astrologer and they had been benefited by you. Incidentally, I remind the warning of Shri K.N.Rao - " Never get impressed by the fact that one has authored books on astrology or is the so called (even self proclaimed) Guru - always ask him first to tell something about you himself / herself, only then go ahead". I have written all this to warn innocent people here lest they should get cheated. One should avoid consulting astrologers who sell gemstone themselves or insist on purchasing from particular jewellers or offer to do poojas and remedies for you on exorbitant payments. They can do nothing good to you except depriving you of your hard earned money. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "Swee Chan" <swee <vedic astrology>; "SJCA" <>; <sohamsa> Cc: "'Sanjay Rath'" <sanjayrath; "Sarbani" <sarbani; "'RICHARD SHAW BROWN'" <rsb Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:01 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arjun, > Namaste > > I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their > intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a > patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that > doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart > surgeon. Agree? > > We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only > recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the > best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We > consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also > based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of > the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for > some, we have it immediately under our tuck. > > I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot > afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that > we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due > to our punya!!! > > For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones, > I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of > each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are > worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case. > > Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in > the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam > that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that > gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book. > Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are > not versed in the science of gemstones. Period. > In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides > helping to correct other health issues. > > Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or > hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me, > you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no > one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor. > > By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as > your second message as a repeat of the first. > > Love, > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 > Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > dear kumarji > > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. > > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. > > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who > recommend these stones can answer better. > > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on > the stone believers. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 > wrote: > > > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much > easier. > > > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business > but > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending > stones > > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > > > - > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > > asc), > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > > problems > > > > > in relationships). > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > > very > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > > included by > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > > advisable to > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Dear P. Kumar, I admit and i completely favour you in the knowledge and depth of astrology. I contacted with my questions to many astrologers even i paid for them. But You are the only one who said to me that a woman/girl is involved in the issuse. Couple of learned astrologers said that I must be sick since birth which is wrong. Couple of said i am facing court case because of some job problem or paper-problem which was wrong. Couple of said that my life is full of pain which is also wrong...... Among all these, you are the only one. And just its because of you my faith in astrology is still retained. Otherwise i would have lost it. Best Wishes Jagdish P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote: Dear Swee, You should agree at one point - one who believes in and recommends a gemstone must be a good astrologer himself / herself. Now remember your visit to Mumbai when you stayed at the house of shri J.K.Dasgupta in Vashi, Mumbai. You were having gemstones for sale with you, almost all of which cost more than Rs. 50,000/-. I (Praveen Kumar then), along with others discussed astrology with you and had shown you my and my mother's horoscopes. My mother is 100% paralyzed and suffered in almost all respects. However, you appreciated her horoscope, had given some favourable comments about her health, even talked about a career for her, declared her married life very happy etc etc. which all was complete nonsense. After describing the facts by me, you had justified the same with the same horoscope. In other readings too, nobody there was impressed with your astrological competence. Neither you have demonstrated your astrological skills here on this forum of vedic astrology convincingly. Persons like you always elude to comment over unknown horoscope. My question is that when you can't predict efficiently, how can you come to know what would have been the results without a gemstone and that the particular stone has benefited the native. If you recommend a stone despite all this, what people should think about you ? This is for all astrologers (or quacks) who sell gemstones themselves or get hefty commission from the Jewelers. It is most unfortunate that people having blind faith in astrology get cheated of their hard earned money. Will you stop all this now or will arrange for some messages protecting you by stating that you are a good astrologer and they had been benefited by you. Incidentally, I remind the warning of Shri K.N.Rao - " Never get impressed by the fact that one has authored books on astrology or is the so called (even self proclaimed) Guru - always ask him first to tell something about you himself / herself, only then go ahead". I have written all this to warn innocent people here lest they should get cheated. One should avoid consulting astrologers who sell gemstone themselves or insist on purchasing from particular jewellers or offer to do poojas and remedies for you on exorbitant payments. They can do nothing good to you except depriving you of your hard earned money. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "Swee Chan" <swee <vedic astrology>; "SJCA" <>; <sohamsa> Cc: "'Sanjay Rath'" <sanjayrath; "Sarbani" <sarbani; "'RICHARD SHAW BROWN'" <rsb Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:01 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Arjun, > Namaste > > I fully agree that those who know nothing about gemstones and their > intrinsic values should not recommend them. Let's look at it this way, if a > patient goes to a general practitioner with a heart ailment, what will that > doctor do? He will do his ethical duty to recommend the patient to a heart > surgeon. Agree? > > We as jyotishas who are intricately linked with gemstones, will not only > recommend a gemstone, but will take it a step further and search for the > best gemstone we can as d in the shastras to our clients. We > consider this our duty to ensure that he/she is given the best. It is also > based on the person's karma to obtain what is prescribed to them. Some of > the people who consult me wait for a long time for a fine gemstone while for > some, we have it immediately under our tuck. > > I have seen so much rubbish gemstones worn by people all over. If one cannot > afford it, maybe next time round (next life) they will. If karma has it that > we are destined to deal in gemstones, that's the way the cookie crumbles due > to our punya!!! > > For those who keep on accusing us of making money by prescribing gemstones, > I only have one thing to ask - Do you get paid for your job at the end of > each month or will you ask your boss to offer you what he thinks you are > worth at the end of each month? Thank you, I rest my case. > > Rahu's gemstone is prescribed in special cases. There are several hints in > the classics and BPHS and my especial favourite, Jyotisharnava Navanitam > that helps the jytoisha to ascertain whether he/she should prescribe that > gemstone. I promise I will detail this in my book. > Gomeda is not exclusive to Hessonite as made out by ALL translators who are > not versed in the science of gemstones. Period. > In Garuda Purana, it is said that it brings wealth to the bearer besides > helping to correct other health issues. > > Those who are sick will certainly benefit from resting under a tree (or > hugging it). It is also dependant of the type of tree, isn't it? Believe me, > you wouldn't want to hug an acacia spp!!! If it was 100% beneficial, then no > one will ever need to build a house nor visit an astrologer or a doctor. > > By the way, I am still waiting for your +20 combinations on eye problems as > your second message as a repeat of the first. > > Love, > Swee > > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 > Friday, February 10, 2006 8:54 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > dear kumarji > > i fully agree with your remarks. my statement on amitabh getting > benefited by kashmiri neelam is based on the revelations by his > astrologer and other fellow astrologers in various groups. > > i myself do not believe in stones and have not recommended a stone > to a single person till date. in various threads in other groups i > lamented that stones were not recommended by any holy scripture and > the recent newfound support from narada purana also was unheard > before. also somewhere i read that humans, animals/birds, > trees/plants and stones attract energies from the planets 100%, 75%, > 50% and 25% respectively and hence stones which attract only 25% > energy are not worth their money for their 25% effect. > > i still fail to understand how stones are recommended for rank > malefics rahu and ketu as seen in several messages in this group. > since these two are painted as beneficial planets by some > researchers who are vairagya and moksha karakas, may be the stones > are recommended for gaining vairagya and moksha. only those who > recommend these stones can answer better. > > anyway, i endorse your views on stones but without any criticism on > the stone believers. > > with best wishes > arjun > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24 > wrote: > > > > Do you know the strength of horoscope of Amitabh Bachchan ? If > stones work that much, why he reached at the verge of bankruptcy at > some juncture ? Why did he suffer health wise (and remember we don't > know everything about his bad health) so seriously ? > > > > Tell those Gem-stone selling astrologers to give interpretation on > strangers' horoscopes and see their caliber. Everything else is much > easier. > > > > My take on gemstones is that it should be used more as an > ornament. Gemstones for functionally benefic planets may be > preferred. Nothing can radically change your destiny, at least in > this life. Rather, taking help of mantras and devotion to the God is > more important. Following a simple life helping the needy ones may > give you inner peace and spiritual advancement. > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > - > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 10, 2006 12:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > dear friend kumarji > > > > > > you are right in saying that selling stones is more a business > but > > > for priviliged people like amitabh bachhan who wears genuine > > > flawless kashmiri blue sapphire, stones work. > > > > > > for those who cannot afford gems, color therapy (akin to gem > > > therapy) is an inexpensive inhouse alternative. > > > > > > till date i could not find any vedic scripture recommending > stones > > > and have not recommended stones to any one. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "P Kumar" <pkumar24@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. > > > > > > > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > > > - > > > > "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected sir, > > > > > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio > > > asc), > > > > > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of > > > problems > > > > > in relationships). > > > > > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be > > > very > > > > > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities > > > included by > > > > > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be > > > advisable to > > > > > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 ?????????????????????????????????? skotak P Kumar <pkumar24 wrote: Don't run after gems. It is more a business than anything else. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - "harjeet_bakshi" <harjeet_bakshi <vedic astrology> Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:00 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Jyotish Gem Clarity & Naga Mani > respected sir, > earlier you had adviced me for wearing a ruby(being a scorpio asc), > instead of a diamond(which some astrologer told me because of problems > in relationships). > about clearity of gems.. like rubies and emerald, it would be very > expensive for unflawed gem as most of them have impurities included by > default which are seen by naked eye itself. so it wont be advisable to > wear them if one cant afford the gems in purest form. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology software Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web. vedic astrology Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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