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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

OM MATRE NAMAH

OM NAMOH NARAYAN

 

Namaste Rafal Ji,

 

Thats great to see your comments.

Some doubts in color again are ther plz clarify.

 

 

Regards,

J.L

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Dear J.L

 

comments below.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"Jyotish Learner" <vedicastro_mind

"holy vedic group" <vedic astrology>

Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:09 AM

[vedic astrology] 7th Lord and UL Lord

 

 

> Dear Learned Guruji's,

>

> Can u tell me the basic difference between 7th lord and UL Lord normally

> both are refered to for marriage so.

 

[Rafal] Seventh house in Rasi is about attitude, while partner is seen in

Navamsa and UL.

[JL]Thanks

 

UL Lord tell us about status of partner.

[J.L]So having Ul lord as 8th and being afflicted , u clarified one doubt so i

am not again raising , 8th here as u said its bring arrange marriage but rahu

association is not good as afflicted is not good i feel perhaps status of

partner is not good is that good conclusion??

But being placed in kendra says good.

 

 

Seventh lord in twelfth also can

give weak background.

 

Dispositor of seventh lord tell us about health of

partner. UL is more about visibility of Him, while real abilities and

character is studied in Navamsa. Hope this is more clear now.

 

>

> My question is wat indication may one perceive by UL Lord being 8th.(8th

> house generaaly is not good so is it to conclude that wife wont be good)

 

[Rafal] Any connection to A8 or eight lord can indicate arranged marriage.

But association of 5th and 7th lord together as per parasar says love nmarriage

, interestring still i am not in love but i have been in past with 2 girls in 2

times but was not successful in stretching ahead.

 

 

>

> UL Lord being afflicted due to Rahu or even Ketu.(does it indicates the

> wife would be having some external affirs?????)

 

[Rafal] It can indicate affliction to begin with.

Means what??

While sustainence is seen

in second from UL.

so my first marriage wont last long as u see 2nd bhava from UL has malefics

, malefics dont prosper any bhava , correct.

 

>

> UL placement in 4th from AL------>Kendar to each other so may be we can

> say mutual help in development of each other.

 

[Rafal] Its good relation generally. It means they will support each other

(if lords are also good placed). 4 from AL is about our organizations also.

[JL]Thanks

>

>

> What inferece can we draw for 7th lord being in 4th(4th house of

> happiness from lagna)so Martial happiness.

 

[Rafal] It means that in home person is encouraged to get married (opposite

if 6L is in forth).

[J.L]Thanks

 

 

> Anybody enligtening me and so shall other getting knwoeldege from it

> would be appreciated.

>

> In one short i would furnsih birth details as

>

> male

> dob :17 june 1982

> tob :22:36pm

> place of birth:bombay, india

>

> Regards,

> J.L

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Dear J.L

 

Namaskar

 

comments below

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"Jyotish Learner" <vedicastro_mind

<vedic astrology>

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 7th Lord and UL Lord(to Rafal Ji)

 

 

> OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

> OM MATRE NAMAH

> OM NAMOH NARAYAN

>

> Namaste Rafal Ji,

>

> Thats great to see your comments.

> Some doubts in color again are ther plz clarify.

>

>

> Regards,

> J.L

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

> Dear J.L

>

> comments below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "Jyotish Learner" <vedicastro_mind

> "holy vedic group" <vedic astrology>

> Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:09 AM

> [vedic astrology] 7th Lord and UL Lord

>

>

>> Dear Learned Guruji's,

>>

>> Can u tell me the basic difference between 7th lord and UL Lord normally

>> both are refered to for marriage so.

>

> [Rafal] Seventh house in Rasi is about attitude, while partner is seen in

> Navamsa and UL.

> [JL]Thanks

>

> UL Lord tell us about status of partner.

> [J.L]So having Ul lord as 8th and being afflicted , u clarified one doubt

> so i am not again raising , 8th here as u said its bring arrange marriage

> but rahu association is not good as afflicted is not good i feel perhaps

> status of partner is not good is that good conclusion??

 

[Rafal]

Status comes from avastha and little from yuti. Rahu will give some problems

if second malefic aspects then there will be problems due to curse. Then

perscribe mantra to benefic cursed. Lord decide the overall effects. Very

important is second house and lord from UL as this can indicate real

problems. Upapada is about condition to start, and second is condition to

sustain.

 

> But being placed in kendra says good.

>

>

> Seventh lord in twelfth also can

> give weak background.

>

> Dispositor of seventh lord tell us about health of

> partner. UL is more about visibility of Him, while real abilities and

> character is studied in Navamsa. Hope this is more clear now.

>

>>

>> My question is wat indication may one perceive by UL Lord being 8th.(8th

>> house generaaly is not good so is it to conclude that wife wont be good)

>

> [Rafal] Any connection to A8 or eight lord can indicate arranged marriage.

> But association of 5th and 7th lord together as per parasar says love

> nmarriage , interestring still i am not in love but i have been in past

> with 2 girls in 2 times but was not successful in stretching ahead.

 

[JL] Rasi is about manifestation. People has door open to many tastes in

this material world to finally reach the final taste of Brahman beyond three

Guna of material existence. In Your relation's You can taste emotion's

called love, nobody has this door-open. Success in this depends on many many

other things as attitude (seventh house), morality of You (navamsa Lagna),

morality of partner, luck in compatibility (twelfth house and al/a7

relation), curses, badhakesh etc.

 

>

>

>>

>> UL Lord being afflicted due to Rahu or even Ketu.(does it indicates the

>> wife would be having some external affirs?????)

>

> [Rafal] It can indicate affliction to begin with.

> Means what??

 

Some shock in beginning the relation. Dispositor is like Surya - it begins

and sets health. Nakshatra dispositor is like Moon and Navamsa dispositor is

about luck.

 

> While sustainence is seen

> in second from UL.

> so my first marriage wont last long as u see 2nd bhava from UL has

> malefics , malefics dont prosper any bhava , correct.

 

[Rafal]

They do good depends on position/yoga etc. Sani deb is very good for vrsabha

udaya.

>

>>

>> UL placement in 4th from AL------>Kendar to each other so may be we can

>> say mutual help in development of each other.

>

> [Rafal] Its good relation generally. It means they will support each other

> (if lords are also good placed). 4 from AL is about our organizations

> also.

> [JL]Thanks

>>

>>

>> What inferece can we draw for 7th lord being in 4th(4th house of

>> happiness from lagna)so Martial happiness.

>

> [Rafal] It means that in home person is encouraged to get married

> (opposite

> if 6L is in forth).

> [J.L]Thanks

>

>

>> Anybody enligtening me and so shall other getting knwoeldege from it

>> would be appreciated.

>>

>> In one short i would furnsih birth details as

>>

>> male

>> dob :17 june 1982

>> tob :22:36pm

>> place of birth:bombay, india

>>

>> Regards,

>> J.L

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Find a local business fast with Local Search

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>>

>>

>> Links

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope

> Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

> News: Get the latest news via video today!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

OM MATRE NAMAH

OM NAMOH NARAYAN

 

Namaste Rafal Ji,

 

Thanks for ur comments

 

God bless

 

take care,

bye,

 

 

Regards,

JL

 

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Dear J.L

 

Namaskar

 

comments below

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"Jyotish Learner" <vedicastro_mind

<vedic astrology>

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] 7th Lord and UL Lord(to Rafal Ji)

 

 

> OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

> OM MATRE NAMAH

> OM NAMOH NARAYAN

>

> Namaste Rafal Ji,

>

> Thats great to see your comments.

> Some doubts in color again are ther plz clarify.

>

>

> Regards,

> J.L

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

> Dear J.L

>

> comments below.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "Jyotish Learner" <vedicastro_mind

> "holy vedic group" <vedic astrology>

> Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:09 AM

> [vedic astrology] 7th Lord and UL Lord

>

>

>> Dear Learned Guruji's,

>>

>> Can u tell me the basic difference between 7th lord and UL Lord normally

>> both are refered to for marriage so.

>

> [Rafal] Seventh house in Rasi is about attitude, while partner is seen in

> Navamsa and UL.

> [JL]Thanks

>

> UL Lord tell us about status of partner.

> [J.L]So having Ul lord as 8th and being afflicted , u clarified one doubt

> so i am not again raising , 8th here as u said its bring arrange marriage

> but rahu association is not good as afflicted is not good i feel perhaps

> status of partner is not good is that good conclusion??

 

[Rafal]

Status comes from avastha and little from yuti. Rahu will give some problems

if second malefic aspects then there will be problems due to curse. Then

perscribe mantra to benefic cursed. Lord decide the overall effects. Very

important is second house and lord from UL as this can indicate real

problems. Upapada is about condition to start, and second is condition to

sustain.

 

> But being placed in kendra says good.

>

>

> Seventh lord in twelfth also can

> give weak background.

>

> Dispositor of seventh lord tell us about health of

> partner. UL is more about visibility of Him, while real abilities and

> character is studied in Navamsa. Hope this is more clear now.

>

>>

>> My question is wat indication may one perceive by UL Lord being 8th.(8th

>> house generaaly is not good so is it to conclude that wife wont be good)

>

> [Rafal] Any connection to A8 or eight lord can indicate arranged marriage.

> But association of 5th and 7th lord together as per parasar says love

> nmarriage , interestring still i am not in love but i have been in past

> with 2 girls in 2 times but was not successful in stretching ahead.

 

[JL] Rasi is about manifestation. People has door open to many tastes in

this material world to finally reach the final taste of Brahman beyond three

Guna of material existence. In Your relation's You can taste emotion's

called love, nobody has this door-open. Success in this depends on many many

other things as attitude (seventh house), morality of You (navamsa Lagna),

morality of partner, luck in compatibility (twelfth house and al/a7

relation), curses, badhakesh etc.

 

>

>

>>

>> UL Lord being afflicted due to Rahu or even Ketu.(does it indicates the

>> wife would be having some external affirs?????)

>

> [Rafal] It can indicate affliction to begin with.

> Means what??

 

Some shock in beginning the relation. Dispositor is like Surya - it begins

and sets health. Nakshatra dispositor is like Moon and Navamsa dispositor is

about luck.

 

> While sustainence is seen

> in second from UL.

> so my first marriage wont last long as u see 2nd bhava from UL has

> malefics , malefics dont prosper any bhava , correct.

 

[Rafal]

They do good depends on position/yoga etc. Sani deb is very good for vrsabha

udaya.

>

>>

>> UL placement in 4th from AL------>Kendar to each other so may be we can

>> say mutual help in development of each other.

>

> [Rafal] Its good relation generally. It means they will support each other

> (if lords are also good placed). 4 from AL is about our organizations

> also.

> [JL]Thanks

>>

>>

>> What inferece can we draw for 7th lord being in 4th(4th house of

>> happiness from lagna)so Martial happiness.

>

> [Rafal] It means that in home person is encouraged to get married

> (opposite

> if 6L is in forth).

> [J.L]Thanks

>

>

>> Anybody enligtening me and so shall other getting knwoeldege from it

>> would be appreciated.

>>

>> In one short i would furnsih birth details as

>>

>> male

>> dob :17 june 1982

>> tob :22:36pm

>> place of birth:bombay, india

>>

>> Regards,

>> J.L

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Find a local business fast with Local Search

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>>

>>

>> Links

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope

> Astrology software

>

>

>

>

>

> Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

> News: Get the latest news via video today!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Astrology chart Vedic astrology Astrology horoscope Astrology

software

 

 

 

 

Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.

 

vedic astrology

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Find a local business fast with Local Search

 

 

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