Mangalik Dosha (To Shri Shreenadh)

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Dear Shri. Sreenadh:

 

The preditions for the positions of Mars in 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and

12th are always negative whichever authority you decide to follow. It

is of note that ancient classics do not refer to Mars dosha at all!

 

Probably, certain slokhas are interpolations in classical works. But

even those interpolations seem to have been done by some expert in

some foregone era who could have possibly done that to include

principles gained by his own experience.

 

There will be no end if we start doubting if each and every slokha is

in the original or has it been interpolated... Our methodology should

be to see if the principle works in reality.

 

Regarding the slokha that predicts "death" due to Mars position in

dosha places, you need not interpret it "literally". There are

various circumstances that are akin to death... For a honourable

person, loss of honour is equal to death.... A life that is without

peace is worse than death.....Life with an incompatible partner will

make even death look like a boon....So, you can assume that these

effects may arise due to Mars position.

 

Infact, death is one event that requires simultaneous satisfaction of

so many factors in the horoscope and it is naive on the part of an

astrologer to assume that just kuja dosha will cause death of partner!

It is not uncommon to find such hyperboles in Sanskrit literature...

This is infact an "alankara" in sanskrit poetry. I am sure most

sanskrit scholars know how to derive the meaning of the slokhas

without interpreting their literal meaning. May be this is the point

you are also trying to convey.... Not to give too much importance to

kuja dosha fearing death.

 

Blessed be.

vedic astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreelid>

wrote:

>

> Dear Dakshinamoorthi ji,

> I would like to add that the exception rules such as:

> "Sapthme kuja dosha syath nakra karkatayor vina" are also similar

> ones without proper authority. It is said that such slokas are

present

> in Devakeralam. But they are not present in Devakeralam (i.e.

Chandra-

> Kala Nadi). Is it that they are speaking about some other

Devakeralam

> which I haven't seen? Is there more than one book with the name

> Devakeralam?

> Considering Kuja Dosha (Mangala Dosha) as a thing separate from

> general prediction steam itself is a diversion from the

fundamentals.

> Since, then we have to consider Sani Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Surya Dosha

> etc as well, as seperate entities!! More than that there is other

> specially important things such as placement of 6th lord in 7th. For

> example we can consider the slokas such as:

> "Meenasthe madane dinesa thanayo hanyadwadhoom nischayal..." etc.

> Placement of 6th lord in seventh:

> 1) Sa in Pi in 7th for Vi Lagna

> 2) Ve in Sc in 7th for Tu Lagna

> 3) Ju in Cp in 7th for Cp Lagna etc

> Are we (the society) not is giving undue importance to the

Managalic

> Dosha?

> Most of the classics become corrupted due to the insertion of new

> content (new slokas) amid the old text. Probably Naradeeyam (Narada

> samhita) also suffered this, and I have some proof for the fact that

> it is a book created around AD. 250. Of course Narada Samhita is not

> that popular among astrolers. Mostly they are quoting this sloka

from

> a book called "Jathaka Chandrika" which include this sloka without a

> proper authority in its "Parisishta" (remaining) chapter. (There 3

or

> more books with the name Jathaka Chandrika. I am not speaking about

> the popular Jathaka chandrika that deals with Vimsothari Desa system

> and prediction). Actually I would suggest that a good astrologer

> should discard the slokas like "Dhana vyeye cha pathale...." like

> slokas, (Which gives undue importance to only one special planat,

Ma!)

> since they are even against the fundamentals.

> If we look at the classics it would become clear to us that, the

> prediction for Ma in 2nd House, Ma 4th House....Ma in 12th House etc

> are entirely different! This sloka houses all of them under a single

> head and says that husband/wife will die due to this common place

> yoga!! Which itself clearly states that it is not a correct sloka

that

> came from a real authority, but an interpolated one!!

> In short I agree with your opinions. I would love to see your

valuble

> comments about the above statements.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> <dakshinastrologer> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Sunil:

> >

> > What your Guru has taught is about the most severe case of Mars

> Dosha,

> > i.e., conditions in which the Mars dosha will directly affect the

> > longevity of the spouse. The other positions are indicative of

> > undesirable characteristics or lack of adjustment that may mar

> marital

> > felicity. That is why he may not have insisted on the other

> > positions.

> >

> > There is a general consensus among south-indian astrologers that

> Mars

> > dosha occurs if Mars is in the 2nd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th houses

> > from Lagna or Moon. The relevant slokha is:

> >

> > "DHANA VYAYECHA PATHALE JAMITRE CHASTHTAME KUJA

> > STRINAAM BHARTHRU VINAASAMCHA BHARTHUNAAM STRIVINAASANAM"

> >

> > It appears in more than one classic including Naradeeyam- the

> treatise

> > on Astrology ascribed to Shri Narada.

> >

> > The logic of Mars dosha is simple,..... 2nd house is the bhava for

> > family, 4th for character of a female, 7th for spouse, 8th for

> > mangalya, and 12th for bed pleasures. Mars is a planet of strife

> and

> > domination, and the presence of such a malefic in such vital

bhavas

> > was believed to affect marital felicity. Even Mars in the 5th

house

> > is bad for progenic matters in that the delivery may be difficult

or

> > surgically assisted. But, it is not considered as Mars dosha.

> >

> > Ofcourse, there are exceptions to the points I have mentioned

above.

> >

> > Again, there is NO REFERENCE TO MARS DOSHA in classsics like BPHS

or

> > Brihat Jatakam. But, unfortunately too much importance to this

> aspect

> > without taking into account the exceptions has been a bug bear for

> > many otherwise good horoscopes.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "divinity_sun"

> > <divinity_sun> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi ji

> > >

> > > I have learnt from my Guru that Manglik Dosha occurs only if the

> > > mars is in the 7th or the 8th house from lagna or moon in case

of

> > > girls and in the 7th house from lagna or moon in case of boys.

> > >

> > > Even here the effect of Manglik Dosha is reduced when Mars is in

> its

> > > own house or debilitated. Mars in any other position from Moon /

> > > Lagna does not constitute Manglik Dosha. Can you please clarify.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Sunil V

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

> > > <dakshinastrologer> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ms. Indiangirl:

> > > >

> > > > Nowhere in the classics is the concept of "double mangalik

> > > dosha"

> > > > mentioned! And what is more important..... in your horoscope,

> the

> > > > following factors have led to the cancellation of the mangalik

> > > dosha:

> > > >

> > > > 1) Conjuntion of Mars with Moon has cancelled the dosha.

> > > >

> > > > 2) The lord of the sign in which Mars is placed (in this case

> it

> > > is

> > > > the Moon in own house) is in the 1,4, 7, 5, 9, 10 houses from

> the

> > > > lagna. (In your horoscope, Moon is in the 4th house).

> > > >

> > > > What is more, this combination of Moon and Mars has given rise

> to

> > > two

> > > > other yogas:

> > > >

> > > > 1) Neecha Bhanga raja yoga due to the cancellation of

> > > debilitation to

> > > > Mars by Moon.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Chandra Mangala Yoga due to combination of Moon and Mars.

> > > >

> > > > These yogas infact will bless you with acquisition of landed

> > > > properties or houses.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly throw away all fears of mangalik dosha from your mind.

> > > >

> > > > Blessed be.

> > > > vedic astrology, "indiangirl164"

> > > > <indiangirl164> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sanjay ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for you reply. Appreciate it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have Mars and Moon in 4th house in Cancer from Lagna. 4th

> > > house

> > > > > lord is in 4th house and my lagna is Aries.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you please interpret this for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you sanjay ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, Sanjay Prabhakaran

> > > > > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not All Mangal dosha is very destructive.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per Dr. BV Raman there are exceptions,

> > > > > > "The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad

> > > > provided

> > > > > such 2nd

> > > > > > house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the

> > > dosha is

> > > > > produced

> > > > > > when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in

> the

> > > 4th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > Mars causes dosha provided the house falls in any sign

other

> > > than

> > > > > Aries and

> > > > > > Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer,

> the

> > > > dosha

> > > > > is given

> > > > > > rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided

the

> > > 8th

> > > > is

> > > > > any

> > > > > > other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo,

Mars

> > > > > produces no

> > > > > > dosha whatsoever. The dosha is counteracted by the

> conjunction

> > > of

> > > > > Mars and

> > > > > > Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of

Jupiter

> or

> > > > > Venus in the

> > > > > > ascendant."

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > Sanjay P

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 1/17/06, indiangirl164 <indiangirl164> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Guru's,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am affected by double manglik dosha. I understand

these

> > > > dosha's

> > > > > come

> > > > > > > from past karma's.Is there any way so that God would

> forgive

> > > you

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > your past mistakes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When I was a 5th Grade my parents performed some pooja

so

> > > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > > effects of mangal dosha goes away.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Other than that can I do anything. I pray hanumanji

> > > regulary,

> > > > will

> > > > > > > that make any difference.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks you in advance. I would really appreciate if

> someone

> > > can

> > > > > help

> > > > > > > people who are suffering from mangal dosha.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank You.

> > > > > > >

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