interpretations vs. predictions-renuji/dakshinamurthy sir

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sir,

 

I apologise that I have not read the full text of your post but let

me please give some of my thoughts on the subjects.

 

The situations we meet are destiny whereas our reactions to the same

are freewill.

 

WE have no command over the fruits thereof, though.

 

That you have found yourself on the topmost branch of a tree is fate.

Whether you would want to jump down or come down slowly is your free

will OFTEN. (I said often because sometimes, fate is such that it

woule have made the decision also for you and you would come under

the spell of the destiny to take a hasty decision!)

 

Once you have decided to jump down and took a leap, you have no

command over what would happen-whether you would land safely or brake

a leg or two .

 

On the other hand, if you have already done a karma and have to face

it, you can do it by enduring it, by taking recourse to Love- the

love of the Lord(bhakti)or of mankind(karma) or by trying to reduce

the bad karma.

 

The vedic remedies come under this last group of upaghataka

karma,wherein you are trying to reduce (or more literally, destroy)

your bad karma.

 

 

HOwever, there is no prayaschita for garuka (or serious) karmas

whereas you can have some prayachittam for other karmas.

 

We can also try to understand the effect of remedies on the basis of

time continnum.

 

The time continnum is a lateral curve of the time, each moment being

vibrating to your karma. This vibrations can lead to the result of

yoga at every moment or dosha (or both)

 

For eg., you need to have the vivaha yoga at thousands of moments

in your life. Otherwise, you can not enjoy the conjugal bliss after

your marriage.

 

Thus, for those who did not get married, these yogas do exist but

they are very weak.

 

The remedies will vibrate to strengthen these yogas so that the

marriage will eventually result.

 

Similiarly, the doshas can be reduced effectively.

 

In other words, the remedies can not create a yoga or remove totally

a dosha. It can only increase or decrease the effects.

 

Please let me know if I am correct in my understanding.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer"

<dakshinastrologer> wrote:

>

> Dear Renuji:

>

> You are quite right! There is a saying:

>

> "Those who know astrology can only indicate in a way what will take

> place in future. Who else, except the Creator Brahma, can say with

> certainty what will definitely happen?"

>

> Astrology is not designed to be an ABSOLUTE subject. If Fate is

such

> fixed structure, there is no scope for remedies; If everything is

> prewritten, what is the incentive for a living being to adhere to

> Dharmic principles? If FAte is such a preordained thing, then

there

> should be no concept of Merit or Sin, because the person who is

> committing these acts is not responsible for it! Is it not?

>

> On the contrary, planets impel... they do not compel....We are

> presented with circumstances that are compatible with our karma;

the

> choices that we make regarding our actions in those circumstances

> cause alterations in the course of our fate.

>

> Minor events in life will always be subject to changed influences

> arising out of karma accumulated in this birth. But, an expert

> astrologer should be able to predict the broad outlines with a

> respectable degree of accuracy. For instance, the horoscopes of

Great

> Leaders, intellectuals, spiritual Heads or Heads of State will

> definitely show such high promise. In the case of other persons,

the

> role of astrologer is not to predict the course but to suggest the

> best possible course, as the natal influences can be modified to

some

> extent with appropriate choices and remedies.

>

> Magazines are designed to generate interest among the readers and

> journalistic considerations rather than astrological ethics govern

> most journals as far as my experience with them indicates. Most

> astrological magazines often indulge in sensational predictions and

> brilliant post-event analyses which feed the curiousity of their

> astrologically interested readers. We should be content with their

> educational value in throwing light on the astrological principles.

>

> Predictions come true ONLY WITH VAK-PHALITHA (the gift of prophesy

due

> to which his predictions can come true). Anybody learning

astrology

> can interpret.... But predictive accuracy is a hard thing to

acquire

> which is obtained only by sincerity of motives and God's Grace

> obtained through a flawless living. The predictive accuracy

differs

> widely from person to person.

>

> Blessed be.

>

> gy, "renunw" <renunw> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gurujis,

> >

> > I have come to the conclusion that mostly what I read in

astrology

> > books , articles etc. are interpretations. This is not a

difficult

> task

> > once the past event is known. If one knows the theory behind and

is

> > intelligent enough, one can interprit the cause of a past event

with

> > 100% accuracy. But it is very sad that most fail to give

predictions

> as

> > to the future events correctly.

> >

> > Blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

>