Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Om Krishna Guru Namaste David Ji, Here are few Nashta Jatakam Analysis I have done in the past and posted in this list. vedic astrology/message/46858 vedic astrology/message/50180 vedic astrology/message/56736 vedic astrology/message/57498 There would be more by other Gurus and learned members so try to search in the archives by typing "Nashta Jatakam" in search box. Please do your Guru Mantra and pray to your Istha before casting the Prashna Chart. Hope the above may be helpful for your own learning. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste David Ji, > > Yes, I have listend to Zoran Ji's MP3 of this session (I think last > years Nagpur workshop). I also studied and practiced Nashta Jatakam > principles too. These principles worked for me. If you have some time, > you may wish to search my Nashta Jatakam Prashna analysis I have given > in the past for some native in this group. So please search the > archives and you will find them. > > Hope the above may be helpful. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> wrote: > > > > Dear Learned members, > > > > I have recently bumped into this very interesting article written by > > Zoran Radosavljevic regarding a birth time rectification technique: > > > > http://www.sjc-serbia.com/english/articles/nashta%20jatakam.html > > > > Has any of you had any experience with this approach for birth time > > rectification? > > I am trying to use it but I feel like I am in a sort of grey area and > > I wanted some advice from an expert Guru on how to deal with this. > > > > Thanks very much for your help, > > > > David > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, I appreciate a lot that you forwarded us the articles. I have a question regarding the method. According to this, the season will be determined accoding to the planet in Lagna. In the case of the Prashna I am working on (pelase see Rasi below), Lagna is Cancer, 7 degrees 35 and so falling the in Moon's Hora. This will place the birth when the Sun is between Cancer and Sagittarius. The next step is to determine the season, and this should be done according to the planet in the Lagna (so I have read). In my case there is Saturn, witch is incompatible with the Ayana selected. Shall I just take Jupiter as seasin indicator or shall I consider the Venus aspect on Lagna? Thanks indeed for your advice, David Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / SaR \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ke HL x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Md \ 4 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Ju x Ma | | \ / \ / | | \ Gk / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |GL AL x VeR x Ra Mo | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Su \ / \ | | / Me \ / \ | +--------------+ vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste David Ji, > > Here are few Nashta Jatakam Analysis I have done in the past and > posted in this list. > > vedic astrology/message/46858 > vedic astrology/message/50180 > vedic astrology/message/56736 > vedic astrology/message/57498 > > There would be more by other Gurus and learned members so try to > search in the archives by typing "Nashta Jatakam" in search box. > > Please do your Guru Mantra and pray to your Istha before casting the > Prashna Chart. Hope the above may be helpful for your own learning. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste David Ji, > > > > Yes, I have listend to Zoran Ji's MP3 of this session (I think last > > years Nagpur workshop). I also studied and practiced Nashta Jatakam > > principles too. These principles worked for me. If you have some > time, > > you may wish to search my Nashta Jatakam Prashna analysis I have > given > > in the past for some native in this group. So please search the > > archives and you will find them. > > > > Hope the above may be helpful. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Learned members, > > > > > > I have recently bumped into this very interesting article written > by > > > Zoran Radosavljevic regarding a birth time rectification > technique: > > > > > > http://www.sjc-serbia.com/english/articles/nashta%20jatakam.html > > > > > > Has any of you had any experience with this approach for birth > time > > > rectification? > > > I am trying to use it but I feel like I am in a sort of grey area > and > > > I wanted some advice from an expert Guru on how to deal with this. > > > > > > Thanks very much for your help, > > > > > > David > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, Again, thanks for your help in this. Unfortunately there was a formatting problem with the message and so the chart that I pasted directly from JHora was not readable here. I casted the chart on the following data: January 5, 2006 Time: 17:21:30 Place: 1 E 00' 00", 51 N 47' 00" Time: GMT (London time). As a reference point, the prashna Lagna is Cancer, the Navamsha Lagna Virgo. I am stuck at the "season point", because Shani, indicator of Winter, cannot be taken in consideration being in conflict with the half of the year to be considered, and Lagna is fully aspected both by Venus and Mars... Thanks very much again for your light, David vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishan Guru > > Namaste David Ji, > > Thanks for the note and hope those examples are some help to your > study. I usually, do not take some one else Prashna Chart for my > predictions rather I prefer to cast my own Prashna Chart. > > But in this case, for the acamedic purpose, I would read your Prashna > Chart and try to answer your question/doubt. > > So please provide me your Prashna Chart details, such as Prashna > Date, Time and Place with the time zone. > > I am asking the above details, because, I can not read the chart > clearly, which you have pasted in your message. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> wrote: > > > Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, > > I appreciate a lot that you forwarded us the articles. > I have a question regarding the method. > > According to this, the season will be determined accoding to the > planet in Lagna. > In the case of the Prashna I am working on (pelase see Rasi below), > Lagna is Cancer, 7 degrees 35 and so falling the in Moon's Hora. This > will place the birth when the Sun is between Cancer and Sagittarius. > The next step is to determine the season, and this should be done > according to the planet in the Lagna (so I have read). In my case > there is Saturn, witch is incompatible with the Ayana selected. Shall > I just take Jupiter as seasin indicator or shall I consider the Venus > aspect on Lagna? > > Thanks indeed for your advice, > > David > > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / SaR \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Ke HL x As x | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Md \ 4 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ju x Ma | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Gk / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |GL AL x VeR x Ra Mo | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Su \ / \ | > | / Me \ / \ | > +--------------+ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Om Krishna Guru Namaste David Ji, I have looked at your Prashna Chart and take Guru for the season in question. Regards Raghunatha Rao vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> wrote: > > Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, > > Again, thanks for your help in this. > Unfortunately there was a formatting problem with the message and so > the chart that I pasted directly from JHora was not readable here. > > I casted the chart on the following data: > > January 5, 2006 > Time: 17:21:30 > Place: 1 E 00' 00", 51 N 47' 00" > Time: GMT (London time). > > As a reference point, the prashna Lagna is Cancer, the Navamsha Lagna > Virgo. > I am stuck at the "season point", because Shani, indicator of Winter, > cannot be taken in consideration being in conflict with the half of > the year to be considered, and Lagna is fully aspected both by Venus > and Mars... > > Thanks very much again for your light, > > David > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > Om Krishan Guru > > > > Namaste David Ji, > > > > Thanks for the note and hope those examples are some help to your > > study. I usually, do not take some one else Prashna Chart for my > > predictions rather I prefer to cast my own Prashna Chart. > > > > But in this case, for the acamedic purpose, I would read your Prashna > > Chart and try to answer your question/doubt. > > > > So please provide me your Prashna Chart details, such as Prashna > > Date, Time and Place with the time zone. > > > > I am asking the above details, because, I can not read the chart > > clearly, which you have pasted in your message. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> wrote: > > > > > Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, > > > > I appreciate a lot that you forwarded us the articles. > > I have a question regarding the method. > > > > According to this, the season will be determined accoding to the > > planet in Lagna. > > In the case of the Prashna I am working on (pelase see Rasi below), > > Lagna is Cancer, 7 degrees 35 and so falling the in Moon's Hora. This > > will place the birth when the Sun is between Cancer and Sagittarius. > > The next step is to determine the season, and this should be done > > according to the planet in the Lagna (so I have read). In my case > > there is Saturn, witch is incompatible with the Ayana selected. Shall > > I just take Jupiter as seasin indicator or shall I consider the Venus > > aspect on Lagna? > > > > Thanks indeed for your advice, > > > > David > > > > > > Rasi > > +--------------+ > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / SaR \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > |Ke HL x As x | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / Md \ 4 / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | Ju x Ma | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ Gk / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > |GL AL x VeR x Ra Mo | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / Su \ / \ | > > | / Me \ / \ | > > +--------------+ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, Ok, so basically in this case, regarding the season it is OK to apply the method presented in Zoran's paper. By the way, I am referring to the paper available here: http://www.sjc-serbia.com/english/articles/nashta%20jatakam.html The problem I still have to solve is related to the Tithi. In the first part of the paper, Zoran is crystal clear on how to deal with the matter: "As per parampara teaching the tithi will be indicated by the degree traversed by Sun (karak for Lagna). For example, if the sun is in 18 degrees 44 minutes it will indicate 19th tithi chaturthi. Now the definition of lunar month comes into a play. As per modern authors the lunar month is calculated according to conjunction of sun and moon, which is known as ananta masa. However, as per varahamihira, the masa should be calculated from full moon days known as Suklanta masa. We follow varahamihira opinion, since ananta concept was supported by Yavancharya." In the second part of the paper, where he casts a Prashna for calculating the birth of Shri Krishna, he is less clear and he writes: "6. let us check the tithi of the day of birth. It should normally be the sun's degree of Prasna chart. In this example, it should be 10th tithi of Krisna Paksa-Krisna Dasami. In such cases, I can tell you what I was taught from parampara. Since the Sun is Karak for Lagna, we should take the Lagna degree instead. Rahu is stronger than Saturn and Rahu degree is 7-32 so the birth was correct- Krisna Astami." I cannot understand the criteria he used: why does Zoran use the Lagna degre rather than the Sun degree? I went through the examples that you forwarded us in the previous post. In the first example, person born 23/5/1968, the Prashna sun degree is 29 Sc 20 so according to the paper, the Tithi should be Chaturdashi. The actual Tithi is Krishna Dwadasi. In the second example, person born 3/6/1946, the Prashna sun degree is 6 Aq 15 so according to the paper, the Tithi should be Krishna Shashthi. The actual Tithi is Shukla Chaturthi. In the third example, person born 15/12/1974, the Prashna sun degree is 7 Ge 01 and so the Tithi should be Krishna Saptami. The actual one is Sukla Dwityia. I am sure I missed something due to my lack of knowledge. Can I get more advice from the learned members of this discussion group in order to find a criteria that allows to find the birth Tithi? Thanks indeed, David vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste David Ji, > > I have looked at your Prashna Chart and take Guru for the season in > question. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> wrote: > > > > Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, > > > > Again, thanks for your help in this. > > Unfortunately there was a formatting problem with the message and so > > the chart that I pasted directly from JHora was not readable here. > > > > I casted the chart on the following data: > > > > January 5, 2006 > > Time: 17:21:30 > > Place: 1 E 00' 00", 51 N 47' 00" > > Time: GMT (London time). > > > > As a reference point, the prashna Lagna is Cancer, the Navamsha > Lagna > > Virgo. > > I am stuck at the "season point", because Shani, indicator of > Winter, > > cannot be taken in consideration being in conflict with the half of > > the year to be considered, and Lagna is fully aspected both by Venus > > and Mars... > > > > Thanks very much again for your light, > > > > David > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Raghunatha RaoNemani" > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > Om Krishan Guru > > > > > > Namaste David Ji, > > > > > > Thanks for the note and hope those examples are some help to your > > > study. I usually, do not take some one else Prashna Chart for my > > > predictions rather I prefer to cast my own Prashna Chart. > > > > > > But in this case, for the acamedic purpose, I would read your > Prashna > > > Chart and try to answer your question/doubt. > > > > > > So please provide me your Prashna Chart details, such as Prashna > > > Date, Time and Place with the time zone. > > > > > > I am asking the above details, because, I can not read the chart > > > clearly, which you have pasted in your message. > > > > > > Regards > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dbavim" <dbavim> > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Raghunatha Rao ji, > > > > > > I appreciate a lot that you forwarded us the articles. > > > I have a question regarding the method. > > > > > > According to this, the season will be determined accoding to the > > > planet in Lagna. > > > In the case of the Prashna I am working on (pelase see Rasi > below), > > > Lagna is Cancer, 7 degrees 35 and so falling the in Moon's Hora. > This > > > will place the birth when the Sun is between Cancer and > Sagittarius. > > > The next step is to determine the season, and this should be done > > > according to the planet in the Lagna (so I have read). In my case > > > there is Saturn, witch is incompatible with the Ayana selected. > Shall > > > I just take Jupiter as seasin indicator or shall I consider the > Venus > > > aspect on Lagna? > > > > > > Thanks indeed for your advice, > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > Rasi > > > +--------------+ > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / SaR \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > |Ke HL x As x | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / Md \ 4 / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | Ju x Ma | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ Gk / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > | \ / \ / | > > > |GL AL x VeR x Ra Mo | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / \ / \ | > > > | / Su \ / \ | > > > | / Me \ / \ | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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