Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 and not for confirming actual predictions in real-life cases. Thanks for your posting. Regards Akbar vedic astrology wrote: ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healinghttp://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/.8XolB/TM--~-> There are 25 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. RE: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."Michael Travass" 2. Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations!"dakshinastrologer" 3. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."dakshinastrologer" 4. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. "dakshinastrologer" 5. Re: Daughter Attempted suicide urgent help requested"panditarjun2004" 6. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."renunw" 7. Re: Hanuman and Sri Ramchandra"Souvik Dutta" 8. Re: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."P Kumar" 9. RE: Re: Diamond Recommendation please !!!"Swee Chan" 10. Mrtyujaya Storta"Swee Chan" 11. RE: Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations!"Swee Chan" 12. Fwd: Good luckSamrat De Sarkar 13. RE: Re: Hanuman and Sri Ramchandra"Visti Larsen" 14. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."vijayadas_pradeep" 15. Re: Fwd: Good luck (an advise) "panditarjun2004" 16. Re: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise.Bharat Hindu Astrology 17. Re: Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations!pankaj sharma 18. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise."panditarjun2004" 19. California - Vyasa-SJC Circle - 8 Jan ,11:00 amGail Francisco 20. Re: California - Vyasa-SJC Circle - 8 Jan ,11:00 am -correction - topic is ArgalaGail Francisco 21. Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations!"dakshinastrologer" 22. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!! (To shri. Bharateiya)"dakshinastrologer" 23. Re: Sister's marriage Plz Advice........"Amit" 24. Vyasa-SJC class mp3 file locationGail Francisco 25. Saadi Satwari (very sscared and worried)."jai_125" __________Message: 1 Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:28:17 -0000"Michael Travass" RE: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise.Please send birth details/ vedic astrology[vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:25 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - Anexercise.dear friend RNWa friend of mine (birth details 06th August 1970, 2355 hours, guntur)is born in Aeries Ascendant. I took his consent to narrate his observation vis-a-vis these seven poins for open discussion:1. he would probably be the eldest. (no, this boy is the youngest and all brothers and sisters are elders only)2. He will have a good wife. (no, but the native asked me not to speak out on this issue)3. He will not be satisfied with his job (he is highly satisfied with his profession and takes pride in his job)4. His father shortlived (no, his father feels young at 81 years in excellent health condition and travels a lot too)5. Have more than one younger brother/sister (no, no younger brother or sister at all. he is the youngest)6. Have heart attack at middle age (no, at 36 running he had no heart attack as yet)7. Have bald head by middle age (no, he has thick black lush hairgrowth)I would request all participants in this exercise to kindly throw light as to why this native strayed away from all these generalised characteristics of an aeries ascendant.with best wishes and regardsarjun--- In vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote:>> -Dear Gurujiss,> > Interestingly I know a couple of Aries ascendants to whom the "7 > points" can be applied eyes closed. > > At the same time I'd love to learn more on this method of analysis.> > Blessings> > RNW> > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > wrote:> >> > Dear Shri. Srinadhji:> > > > Please do not get upset that not many are participating in this > > exercise. You are doing a good job. I have been following your > > threads with interest and thought about giving a final round up > after > > everyone has had their say.> > > > All members should note that this is just an exercise to stimulate > the > > logical faculties based on fixed astrological pointers. While > > analyzing actual charts, you must take the placement and > disposition > > of planets into account. > > > > Now I will pick up 7 points that Shri. Srinadh has expressed and > give > > my comments on that. Sometimes, I have purposely raised queries to > > enable other members to analyze it and give their logical reasons > for > > that. Kindly do not take offence.> > > > 1) He would probably be the eldest.> > > > Yes, it is true in most cases. Even otherwise, this native is > > usually the dominant sibling. 11th lord Saturn - denoting elder > > siblings is debilitated in the lagna. Also Aries is the first > sign. > > Standard astrological classics also give this general result.> > > > 2) He will have a good wife.> > > > This is subjective! What do we mean by good wife... and why > do > > you say that?...... Does not karako Bhava Naasaya come into force > > here?> > > > But ofcourse, you can say that the native will get an > attractive > > wife (Venus as 7th lord). In my professional experience, I have > found > > that the marital life of Aries lagna natives is marred by some > hidden > > frustration. The interaction of the native with his wife is > usually > > blow hot/blow cold type. They love their spouses and are good at > > cheering them. Their spouses also love them with all their heart. > > But, their partners often fall short of their expectations when it > > comes to qualities though they may be viewed in a favourable light > by > > others and the society. Other members may also come out with their > > experiences or views in this regard.> > > > 3) He will not be satisfied with his job.> > > > You may put it this way.... The person may have to work harder > > than others to achieve his professional goals (influence of > Saturn). > > > > 4) His father would be short lived, and he would take the> > responsibilities at home.> > > > In reality, natives with Aries lagna suffer from lack of a > > "Father figure" in their lives. It is not that always their > fathers > > are short-lived. In my experience I have found that natives born > with > > Aries ascendant have an approach-avoidance conflict with their > father > > and tend towards extremes in their relationship with their father. > > Sometimes, Aries natives do lose their father quite early in life > (but > > it depends on other factors in the horoscope). But one thing is > sure..> > .. the native does not enjoy a comfortable relationship with his > > father until and unless there are other moderating influences in > the > > individual horoscope.> > > > For instance, Shri. K.Parthasarathy - the eminent astrologer > from > > Chennai (now of revered memory) was born under Aries ascendant. He > > almost worshipped his father though his father was a short-tempered > > and authoritarian man. If you look at the horoscope of Shri. > Hanuman > > (we have no authentic sources, but it is based on some obscure > > tradition), another Aries native, as we all know the influence of > > Shrimati Anjana Devi - his mother was more than the influence of > His > > father - Shri Kesari.> > > > As far as taking responsibilities at home is concerned, it is > > correct. These natives are the father-figures of the family.> > > > 5) He will have more than one younger brothers/sisters.> > > > Experience has proved that this is the case in most cases. I > > will add on that also. The native is highly affectionate to > his/her > > siblings and the siblings are also equally attached to this native. > > But, more often than not, some controversy in the life of this > native > > is caused by their siblings unintentionally. Their mutual love > never > > gets diminished nevertheless.> > > > 6) There is a chace that he will have a heart attack at middle age.> > > > This is true in most cases. Aries ascendant persons tend to be > > Type A-behaviour persons with noted aggressiveness and > > competitiveness. This often leads to heart maladies.> > > > The remedy for this would be for these natives to meditate a > lot > > and to let their steam off with emphathetic persons around them. > > > > 7) By middle age he will become bald headed. etc.> > > > I will introduce the moderating element here! Aries natives > with > > Sun in this ascendant will definitely become bald headed by middle > > age. This is in conformity with standard astrological principles.> > > > I have another interesting note to add regarding the relationship > of > > this native with his/her Guru. 9th lord is the significator of > > preceptor and Dharma. Jupiter is the 9th lord and also the 12th > lord. > > So, these natives often learn subjects from a Guru about whom not > > many people know of.... or they are self-made!> > > > You can also say that 12th lord being an auspicious planet, these > > persons have a good potential to attain punya lokhas.> > > > By the way, Aries lagna will not give you many possibilities > because > > in this case, all bhava karakas are the natural karakas. It is for > > this reason that we call a horoscope with Aries ascendant as the > > standard horoscope.> > > > When you try the same exercise with other lagnas, you have > interesting > > possibilities because here, the bhava karakas and the natural > karakas > > will be different and the kalediscope of natural karakatwa and > bhava > > karakatwa will make your exercise more interesting.> > > > I am waiting eagerly for your analysis of the other lagnas > srinadhji.> > > > Let us not mix up astrological classical definitions here and only > go > > by the first principles as you have rightly done.> > > > Blessed be.> >>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ......._____ * Visit your group "vedic astrology" on the web.* To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology* Your use of is subject to the Terms ofService . _____ [This message contained attachments]__________Message: 2 Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:50:04 -0000"dakshinastrologer" Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations!Dear Shri. Pankaj and other members:I have kept Shri. Sharma's views in quotes and I have typed my comments below them so that everyone can follow the thread of thoughts."1.money earning should be from foreign connections or medicines/ furnitures/ hospitals/law/police."Your conclusions are correct.Kindly explain the logic behind these conclusins for the benefit of the members. For instance let me comment:2nd lord is exalted in the 12th house... So, earning from foreign sources may be expected (The same point covers hospitals also- 12th house signifies hospitals).12th house is the ayana, sayana, bhoga, moksha sthana. 2nd lord (acquisition) exalted in 12th house indicates that the native will spend a large portion of what he/she earns for luxuries and also for charities." 2.Venus being lord of 2nd house and 7th house is markesh becomes exalted in 12th house and debilitated in 6th house may suffer in a foreign country but shuold enjoy sexual encounters. Problems relating to stammering, eyes like cataract, skin, kidney,prostrate, procreation and potency may occur when venus present in 6th house.The native will be passionate"This is an excellent delineation. This is the way to go about analysis."> 3. the native may be gainfully emplowed in business partnerships relating to marriage palaces/ alcoholic beaverages/ iron industry or gas station (petrol pump) and other significations of sani."Perfectly o.k."Elder siblings may spiritualist and dignified business people. there may be some delay in marriage of elder sibling."You have some logic behind this conclusion. Kindly explain that.Other members please remember, in most cases Aries lagna people are the first born children of their parents. So, the prediction about elderly siblings may not apply at all in some cases!"> 4.. Regarding Sun's karkattawas, being lord of fifth house debitated in 7th house may give some sickness to childern, stubborn,. troubled marriage due to dry or firey nature also may bad marriage for aries peoples. Sun being exalted in lagan gives good digestion ( overall energetic temprament of native, royal and aristocratic progeny). Native may attract wrath fron tax departmant due to 7th house."Wonderful analysis yet again!"> 5.Moon beinf exalted in 2n house gives a beautiful and sobre mother, may be inclined towards fine arts, rich, gain in property."Let us remember what we have discussed before vide posts of Shri. Shreenadh.... The person may be dominated by his mother." Moon being debilitated in 8th house may give hydrophobia.> "Hydrophobia is a condition of the native's mind - fear of water. But in reality these natives have fear FROM water, i.e. "Jala Gandam!"Many natives of this sign experience atleast one life threatening situation before their 30th year concerned with water-related accidents. In almost all cases, the natives come through unscathed!8th house is also the house of legacies. 4th lord is in 8th house. The native may gain immovable property as legacies from mother or mother's side."> I am just putting in my limited knowledge of Jyotisha. I amy have given some contradictory results but forgive me if i have not written correctly.Sreenadh ji and Daksinamuthy ji, kindly correct me.""> Thanks in advance.> Pankaj Sharma"Blessed be.__________Message: 3 Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:52:29 -0000"dakshinastrologer" Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise.Dear Shri. Michel:Kindly go through my earlier posts in which I have given the modifications including the issue about the wife.For all the seven points that Shri. Shrinadhji has listed I have introduced moderating factors. They will explain this.Blessed be.vedic astrology, "Michael Travass" wrote:>> Please send birth details/> > > vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004> Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:25 PM> To: vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An> exercise.> > > dear friend RNW> > a friend of mine (birth details 06th August 1970, 2355 hours, guntur)> is born in Aeries Ascendant. I took his consent to narrate his > observation vis-a-vis these seven poins for open discussion:> > 1. he would probably be the eldest. (no, this boy is the youngest > and all brothers and sisters are elders only)> 2. He will have a good wife. (no, but the native asked me not to > speak out on this issue)> 3. He will not be satisfied with his job (he is highly satisfied > with his profession and takes pride in his job)> 4. His father shortlived (no, his father feels young at 81 years in > excellent health condition and travels a lot too)> 5. Have more than one younger brother/sister (no, no younger brother > or sister at all. he is the youngest)> 6. Have heart attack at middle age (no, at 36 running he had no > heart attack as yet)> 7. Have bald head by middle age (no, he has thick black lush > hairgrowth)> > I would request all participants in this exercise to kindly throw > light as to why this native strayed away from all these generalised > characteristics of an aeries ascendant.> > with best wishes and regards> arjun> > > vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote:> >> > -Dear Gurujiss,> > > > Interestingly I know a couple of Aries ascendants to whom the "7 > > points" can be applied eyes closed. > > > > At the same time I'd love to learn more on this method of analysis.> > > > Blessings> > > > RNW> > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri. Srinadhji:> > > > > > Please do not get upset that not many are participating in this > > > exercise. You are doing a good job. I have been following your > > > threads with interest and thought about giving a final round up > > after > > > everyone has had their say.> > > > > > All members should note that this is just an exercise to > stimulate > > the > > > logical faculties based on fixed astrological pointers. While > > > analyzing actual charts, you must take the placement and > > disposition > > > of planets into account. > > > > > > Now I will pick up 7 points that Shri. Srinadh has expressed and > > give > > > my comments on that. Sometimes, I have purposely raised queries > to > > > enable other members to analyze it and give their logical > reasons > > for > > > that. Kindly do not take offence.> > > > > > 1) He would probably be the eldest.> > > > > > Yes, it is true in most cases. Even otherwise, this native > is > > > usually the dominant sibling. 11th lord Saturn - denoting elder > > > siblings is debilitated in the lagna. Also Aries is the first > > sign. > > > Standard astrological classics also give this general result.> > > > > > 2) He will have a good wife.> > > > > > This is subjective! What do we mean by good wife... and > why > > do > > > you say that?...... Does not karako Bhava Naasaya come into > force > > > here?> > > > > > But ofcourse, you can say that the native will get an === message truncated === Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 dear emperor shri dakshinamoorthi ji and other active participants clarified that (to start with) this is a simple exercise on discussing just the aries lagna without considering planets. simply put, analysis of aeries lagna. as you rightly observed, for reading or analysing a chart, one has to look all aspects. once this exercise comes to that level, i too will participate actively in that. till such time no comments. with best wishes arjun vedic astrology, Emperor Akbar <akbarbadushah> wrote: > > Dear Arjun, > > Nice to see the observation. I feel this kind of analysis based on lagna descriptions only are too general and used mainly for academic pruposes in astro workshops to get into grips with the fundamentals. However as you have observed this might be in stark contrast to reality - This is because there are a number of other influences. After all astrology is a combination of many facts. If just going by the lagna would help there might of crores of people belonging to Aries lagna in the world who will have to have similar set of traits as mentioned in the other mail - which is unrealistic. > A simple example - > Aries Lagna with Mars in Lagna will differ from > Aries Lagna with Saturn in Lagna in ample parameters and aspects including body height, colour, thinking, temperamental outlook, status and even profession. I think these exercises will have to be used only for revisiting basics and not for confirming actual predictions in real-life cases. > Thanks for your posting. > > Regards > > Akbar > > > > vedic astrology wrote: > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "Michael Travass" > 2. Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations! > "dakshinastrologer" > 3. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "dakshinastrologer" > 4. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "dakshinastrologer" > 5. Re: Daughter Attempted suicide urgent help requested > "panditarjun2004" > > 6. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "renunw" > 7. Re: Hanuman and Sri Ramchandra > "Souvik Dutta" > 8. Re: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "P Kumar" > > 9. RE: Re: Diamond Recommendation please !!! > "Swee Chan" > 10. Mrtyujaya Storta > "Swee Chan" > 11. RE: Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations! > "Swee Chan" > 12. Fwd: Good luck > Samrat De Sarkar > 13. RE: Re: Hanuman and Sri Ramchandra > "Visti Larsen" > 14. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "vijayadas_pradeep" > 15. Re: Fwd: Good luck (an advise) > "panditarjun2004" > > 16. Re: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > Bharat Hindu Astrology > 17. Re: Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations! > pankaj sharma > 18. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > "panditarjun2004" > > 19. California - Vyasa-SJC Circle - 8 Jan ,11:00 am > Gail Francisco > 20. Re: California - Vyasa-SJC Circle - 8 Jan ,11:00 am - correction - topic is Argala > Gail Francisco > 21. Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations! > "dakshinastrologer" > 22. Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!! (To shri. Bharateiya) > "dakshinastrologer" > 23. Re: Sister's marriage Plz Advice........ > "Amit" > 24. Vyasa-SJC class mp3 file location > Gail Francisco > 25. Saadi Satwari (very sscared and worried). > "jai_125" > > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ > > Message: 1 > Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:28:17 -0000 > "Michael Travass" > RE: Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > > Please send birth details/ > > > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of panditarjun2004 > Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:25 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An > exercise. > > > dear friend RNW > > a friend of mine (birth details 06th August 1970, 2355 hours, guntur) > is born in Aeries Ascendant. I took his consent to narrate his > observation vis-a-vis these seven poins for open discussion: > > 1. he would probably be the eldest. (no, this boy is the youngest > and all brothers and sisters are elders only) > 2. He will have a good wife. (no, but the native asked me not to > speak out on this issue) > 3. He will not be satisfied with his job (he is highly satisfied > with his profession and takes pride in his job) > 4. His father shortlived (no, his father feels young at 81 years in > excellent health condition and travels a lot too) > 5. Have more than one younger brother/sister (no, no younger brother > or sister at all. he is the youngest) > 6. Have heart attack at middle age (no, at 36 running he had no > heart attack as yet) > 7. Have bald head by middle age (no, he has thick black lush > hairgrowth) > > I would request all participants in this exercise to kindly throw > light as to why this native strayed away from all these generalised > characteristics of an aeries ascendant. > > with best wishes and regards > arjun > > > vedic astrology, "renunw" wrote: > > > > -Dear Gurujiss, > > > > Interestingly I know a couple of Aries ascendants to whom the "7 > > points" can be applied eyes closed. > > > > At the same time I'd love to learn more on this method of analysis. > > > > Blessings > > > > RNW > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri. Srinadhji: > > > > > > Please do not get upset that not many are participating in this > > > exercise. You are doing a good job. I have been following your > > > threads with interest and thought about giving a final round up > > after > > > everyone has had their say. > > > > > > All members should note that this is just an exercise to > stimulate > > the > > > logical faculties based on fixed astrological pointers. While > > > analyzing actual charts, you must take the placement and > > disposition > > > of planets into account. > > > > > > Now I will pick up 7 points that Shri. Srinadh has expressed and > > give > > > my comments on that. Sometimes, I have purposely raised queries > to > > > enable other members to analyze it and give their logical > reasons > > for > > > that. Kindly do not take offence. > > > > > > 1) He would probably be the eldest. > > > > > > Yes, it is true in most cases. Even otherwise, this native > is > > > usually the dominant sibling. 11th lord Saturn - denoting elder > > > siblings is debilitated in the lagna. Also Aries is the first > > sign. > > > Standard astrological classics also give this general result. > > > > > > 2) He will have a good wife. > > > > > > This is subjective! What do we mean by good wife... and > why > > do > > > you say that?...... Does not karako Bhava Naasaya come into > force > > > here? > > > > > > But ofcourse, you can say that the native will get an > > attractive > > > wife (Venus as 7th lord). In my professional experience, I have > > found > > > that the marital life of Aries lagna natives is marred by some > > hidden > > > frustration. The interaction of the native with his wife is > > usually > > > blow hot/blow cold type. They love their spouses and are good > at > > > cheering them. Their spouses also love them with all their > heart. > > > But, their partners often fall short of their expectations when > it > > > comes to qualities though they may be viewed in a favourable > light > > by > > > others and the society. Other members may also come out with > their > > > experiences or views in this regard. > > > > > > 3) He will not be satisfied with his job. > > > > > > You may put it this way.... The person may have to work > harder > > > than others to achieve his professional goals (influence of > > Saturn). > > > > > > 4) His father would be short lived, and he would take the > > > responsibilities at home. > > > > > > In reality, natives with Aries lagna suffer from lack of a > > > "Father figure" in their lives. It is not that always their > > fathers > > > are short-lived. In my experience I have found that natives > born > > with > > > Aries ascendant have an approach-avoidance conflict with their > > father > > > and tend towards extremes in their relationship with their > father. > > > Sometimes, Aries natives do lose their father quite early in > life > > (but > > > it depends on other factors in the horoscope). But one thing is > > sure.. > > > .. the native does not enjoy a comfortable relationship with his > > > father until and unless there are other moderating influences in > > the > > > individual horoscope. > > > > > > For instance, Shri. K.Parthasarathy - the eminent astrologer > > from > > > Chennai (now of revered memory) was born under Aries ascendant. > He > > > almost worshipped his father though his father was a short- > tempered > > > and authoritarian man. If you look at the horoscope of Shri. > > Hanuman > > > (we have no authentic sources, but it is based on some obscure > > > tradition), another Aries native, as we all know the influence > of > > > Shrimati Anjana Devi - his mother was more than the influence of > > His > > > father - Shri Kesari. > > > > > > As far as taking responsibilities at home is concerned, it is > > > correct. These natives are the father-figures of the family. > > > > > > 5) He will have more than one younger brothers/sisters. > > > > > > Experience has proved that this is the case in most cases. > I > > > will add on that also. The native is highly affectionate to > > his/her > > > siblings and the siblings are also equally attached to this > native. > > > But, more often than not, some controversy in the life of this > > native > > > is caused by their siblings unintentionally. Their mutual love > > never > > > gets diminished nevertheless. > > > > > > 6) There is a chace that he will have a heart attack at middle > age. > > > > > > This is true in most cases. Aries ascendant persons tend to > be > > > Type A-behaviour persons with noted aggressiveness and > > > competitiveness. This often leads to heart maladies. > > > > > > The remedy for this would be for these natives to meditate > a > > lot > > > and to let their steam off with emphathetic persons around > them. > > > > > > 7) By middle age he will become bald headed. etc. > > > > > > I will introduce the moderating element here! Aries > natives > > with > > > Sun in this ascendant will definitely become bald headed by > middle > > > age. This is in conformity with standard astrological > principles. > > > > > > I have another interesting note to add regarding the > relationship > > of > > > this native with his/her Guru. 9th lord is the significator of > > > preceptor and Dharma. Jupiter is the 9th lord and also the 12th > > lord. > > > So, these natives often learn subjects from a Guru about whom > not > > > many people know of.... or they are self-made! > > > > > > You can also say that 12th lord being an auspicious planet, > these > > > persons have a good potential to attain punya lokhas. > > > > > > By the way, Aries lagna will not give you many possibilities > > because > > > in this case, all bhava karakas are the natural karakas. It is > for > > > this reason that we call a horoscope with Aries ascendant as the > > > standard horoscope. > > > > > > When you try the same exercise with other lagnas, you have > > interesting > > > possibilities because here, the bhava karakas and the natural > > karakas > > > will be different and the kalediscope of natural karakatwa and > > bhava > > > karakatwa will make your exercise more interesting. > > > > > > I am waiting eagerly for your analysis of the other lagnas > > srinadhji. > > > > > > Let us not mix up astrological classical definitions here and > only > > go > > > by the first principles as you have rightly done. > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > _____ > > > > > > * Visit your group "vedic astrology > " on the web. > > > * > vedic astrology > > > > > * Terms of > Service . > > > _____ > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ > > Message: 2 > Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:50:04 -0000 > "dakshinastrologer" > Re: comments on Shri. Pankaj's delineations! > > Dear Shri. Pankaj and other members: > > I have kept Shri. Sharma's views in quotes and I have typed my > comments below them so that everyone can follow the thread of > thoughts. > > "1.money earning should be from foreign connections or medicines/ > furnitures/ hospitals/law/police." > > Your conclusions are correct.Kindly explain the logic behind these > conclusins for the benefit of the members. For instance let me > comment: > 2nd lord is exalted in the 12th house... So, earning from foreign > sources may be expected (The same point covers hospitals also- 12th > house signifies hospitals). > > 12th house is the ayana, sayana, bhoga, moksha sthana. 2nd lord > (acquisition) exalted in 12th house indicates that the native will > spend a large portion of what he/she earns for luxuries and also for > charities. > > " 2.Venus being lord of 2nd house and 7th house is markesh becomes > exalted in 12th house and debilitated in 6th house may suffer in a > foreign country but shuold enjoy sexual encounters. Problems relating > to stammering, eyes like cataract, skin, kidney,prostrate, procreation > and potency may occur when venus present in 6th house.The native will > be passionate" > > This is an excellent delineation. This is the way to go about > analysis. > " > > 3. the native may be gainfully emplowed in business partnerships > relating to marriage palaces/ alcoholic beaverages/ iron industry or > gas station (petrol pump) and other significations of sani." > > Perfectly o.k. > "Elder siblings may spiritualist and dignified business people. there > may be some delay in marriage of elder sibling." > > You have some logic behind this conclusion. Kindly explain that. > Other members please remember, in most cases Aries lagna people are > the first born children of their parents. So, the prediction about > elderly siblings may not apply at all in some cases! > > "> 4.. Regarding Sun's karkattawas, being lord of fifth house > debitated in 7th house may give some sickness to childern, stubborn,. > troubled marriage due to dry or firey nature also may bad marriage for > aries peoples. Sun being exalted in lagan gives good digestion ( > overall energetic temprament of native, royal and aristocratic > progeny). Native may attract wrath fron tax departmant due to 7th > house." > > Wonderful analysis yet again! > "> 5.Moon beinf exalted in 2n house gives a beautiful and sobre > mother, may be inclined towards fine arts, rich, gain in property." > > Let us remember what we have discussed before vide posts of Shri. > Shreenadh.... The person may be dominated by his mother. > > " Moon being debilitated in 8th house may give hydrophobia. > > " > > Hydrophobia is a condition of the native's mind - fear of water. > But in reality these natives have fear FROM water, i.e. "Jala Gandam!" > Many natives of this sign experience atleast one life threatening > situation before their 30th year concerned with water-related > accidents. In almost all cases, the natives come through unscathed! > > 8th house is also the house of legacies. 4th lord is in 8th > house. The native may gain immovable property as legacies from mother > or mother's side. > > "> I am just putting in my limited knowledge of Jyotisha. I amy have > given some contradictory results but forgive me if i have not written > correctly.Sreenadh ji and Daksinamuthy ji, kindly correct me." > > "> Thanks in advance. > > Pankaj Sharma" > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > ___________________ ___ > > Message: 3 > Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:52:29 -0000 > "dakshinastrologer" > Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - An exercise. > > Dear Shri. Michel: > > Kindly go through my earlier posts in which I have given the > modifications including the issue about the wife. > > For all the seven points that Shri. Shrinadhji has listed I have > introduced moderating factors. They will explain this. > > Blessed be.vedic astrology, "Michael Travass" > wrote: > > > > Please send birth details/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] On Behalf Of > panditarjun2004 > > Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:25 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Let us predict with Lagna alone!!! - > An > > exercise. > > > > > > dear friend RNW > > > > a friend of mine (birth details 06th August 1970, 2355 hours, > guntur) > > is born in Aeries Ascendant. I took his consent to narrate his > > observation vis-a-vis these seven poins for open discussion: > > > > 1. he would probably be the eldest. (no, this boy is the youngest > > and all brothers and sisters are elders only) > > 2. He will have a good wife. (no, but the native asked me not to > > speak out on this issue) > > 3. He will not be satisfied with his job (he is highly satisfied > > with his profession and takes pride in his job) > > 4. His father shortlived (no, his father feels young at 81 years in > > excellent health condition and travels a lot too) > > 5. Have more than one younger brother/sister (no, no younger brother > > or sister at all. he is the youngest) > > 6. Have heart attack at middle age (no, at 36 running he had no > > heart attack as yet) > > 7. Have bald head by middle age (no, he has thick black lush > > hairgrowth) > > > > I would request all participants in this exercise to kindly throw > > light as to why this native strayed away from all these generalised > > characteristics of an aeries ascendant. > > > > with best wishes and regards > > arjun > > > > > > vedic astrology, "renunw" > wrote: > > > > > > -Dear Gurujiss, > > > > > > Interestingly I know a couple of Aries ascendants to whom the "7 > > > points" can be applied eyes closed. > > > > > > At the same time I'd love to learn more on this method of > analysis. > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > RNW > > > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Srinadhji: > > > > > > > > Please do not get upset that not many are participating in this > > > > exercise. You are doing a good job. I have been following your > > > > threads with interest and thought about giving a final round up > > > after > > > > everyone has had their say. > > > > > > > > All members should note that this is just an exercise to > > stimulate > > > the > > > > logical faculties based on fixed astrological pointers. While > > > > analyzing actual charts, you must take the placement and > > > disposition > > > > of planets into account. > > > > > > > > Now I will pick up 7 points that Shri. Srinadh has expressed and > > > give > > > > my comments on that. Sometimes, I have purposely raised queries > > to > > > > enable other members to analyze it and give their logical > > reasons > > > for > > > > that. Kindly do not take offence. > > > > > > > > 1) He would probably be the eldest. > > > > > > > > Yes, it is true in most cases. Even otherwise, this native > > is > > > > usually the dominant sibling. 11th lord Saturn - denoting elder > > > > siblings is debilitated in the lagna. Also Aries is the first > > > sign. > > > > Standard astrological classics also give this general result. > > > > > > > > 2) He will have a good wife. > > > > > > > > This is subjective! What do we mean by good wife... and > > why > > > do > > > > you say that?...... Does not karako Bhava Naasaya come into > > force > > > > here? > > > > > > > > But ofcourse, you can say that the native will get an > > === message truncated === > > > > > Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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